Skip to comments."Gays in the military"? Some Inconvenient Truths
Posted on 02/01/2010 9:11:25 AM PST by aSeattleConservative
Gay Military Porn Bust Reminds Us of Some Inconvenient Truths Regarding Homosexuality and the Military
I keep repeating myself...
NO ONE cares what you do in your bedroom. You are free to make your choices. Just be ready to accept the consequences.
My opposition to gays in the military has nothing to do with the showers or “tight bunking situations”. I have said it before- I double-dog dare a homosexual to come on to a Ranger or Rakkasan. It will be a painful lesson, indeed.
My opposition IS and will remain the inescapable exchange of bodily fluids in a battlefield situation. I encourage everyone to consider the scenes in “Blackhawk Down”, “Saving Private Ryan” and other movies, where soldiers are up to their elbows in another soldier’s blood. THIS is a FACT. So, unless the gays are willing to have their HIV status on their dogtags- NO to gays in the military.
Even “don’t ask, don’t tell” isn’t good enough.
Personally I’m more worried about bunking, showers, and morale. HIV is a bs position to take.
I predict soap-on-a-rope will be a big seller.
I wasn't aware that you spoke for "everyone". Since we've now acknowledged that you don't speak for "everyone", how about we acknowledge that you don't speak for our military personnel?
You are free to make your choices. Just be ready to accept the consequences.
You have your settings confused: the gay bathhouses of San Francisco are NOT the same thing as the US Military.
My opposition to gays in the military has nothing to do with the showers or tight bunking situations.
It appears you know NOTHING about the word "morale" (emotional or mental condition with respect to cheerfulness, confidence, zeal, etc., esp. in the face of opposition, hardship, etc.: the morale of the troops).
Isn't it interesting when you remove the "e" from "morale" you come up with the word:
"moral" (of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes; virtuous in sexual matters; chaste).
I double-dog dare a homosexual to come on to a Ranger or Rakkasan. It will be a painful lesson, indeed
(Oh my, 13Sisters76 didn't stick to "dog dare" etiquette and went straight for the "double dog dare").
Obviously you haven't heard about this new thing going around in our legal system, it's called "Hate Crimes". What makes you think that a hommosexual that is OVERLY PROTECTED in civil society wouldn't be afforded those same "special rights" in the military?
My opposition IS and will remain the inescapable exchange of bodily fluids in a battlefield situation.
So let me get this...ahem..."straight". You have no problem with "immoral" sexual deviants being int the military, but just don't want them out on the battlefield.
So what's the "morale" going to be like in the military when "moral" men discover that the guy that is constantly looking at his butt in the shower, very well might sneak through the process and be on the same battelfied as him?
Why not keep all homosexuals out of the military and not worry about such things?
“Personally Im more worried about bunking, showers, and morale. HIV is a bs position to take”
Gee...ya think? I suppose it IS a bs position for one who never risks being exposed to blood products. As to the bunking, showers, etc? Secure men don’t worry about these things. As I said, any gay that comes on to a straight soldier ( and that DOES mean staring at his butt) risks a lot of pain.
I apologize. I was truly unaware that the ONE person who DOES care about the action in another’s bedroom would be here, and it would be YOU. As for speaking for the military- I never suggested that I did. However, I claim a little knowledge- I am the wife of a retired Army NCO and the mother of two daughters who each served two stretches, one in the Navy and one in the Air Force. How long were you in?
“You have your settings confused: the gay bathhouses of San Francisco are NOT the same thing as the US Military.”
I AM confused- when were we discussing gay bath houses? I will freely admit, I don’t know a single thing about these places as you seem to.
“It appears you know NOTHING about the word “morale” (emotional or mental condition with respect to cheerfulness, confidence, zeal, etc., esp. in the face of opposition, hardship, etc.: the morale of the troops).”
Please refer to my first paragraph. As to your definition, oh THANK you for clearing that up for me! I, for one, am grateful beyond words to have you to define the word for me! I am SO blessed!
As it stands right now, political correctness rules in “don’t ask, don’t tell”. It hasn’t the cache for normal people that a strict ban on homosexuals would have, but as a lesser of two evils, it’s the best we have. I, for one, have no enduring hope that we can keep them out. But repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell” would be a mistake. We ask quite enough of our heroes in the military and adding the danger of HIV infection is just too much more to ask. As to “sexual deviants” in the miltary? Don’t be naive. My husband served with CID while we were at Ft Campbell and was an MP throughout his career, and it seems you have NO idea how many different types of sexual deviants you can run into and they ain’t all gay.
Now, listen up, dear. I don’t know how old you are, but you appear to be very young. I run into the occasional nitwit in here, but in your case, I believe I am witnessing true greatness! Grow up.
The issue about accepting homosexuals in mainstream society, including the military, ISN'T about how many people "accept" the deviant homosexual lifestyle (which throughout the history of mankind has been seen as a mental illness as well as a sexually depraved act); it's about what God through Scripture has to say about it: It's an abomination (you might also note in the article that "adultery" charges were brought up against those involved; what does Scripture say about adultery?).
I AM confused- when were we discussing gay bath houses? .
In your previous post you wrote:You are free to make your choices. Just be ready to accept the consequences,at which point I stated that you may be free to make your sexually depraved "choices" in San Francisco bathhouses, but the US Military wants NOTHING to do with you.
I will freely admit, I dont know a single thing about these places as you seem to.
Thank you for admitting your ignorance on the subject. Since you know little about the homosexual lifestyle, why are you pretending to be knowledgable about a subject you know little to NOTHING about?
Besides wanting to infiltrate (and thus redefine) important American institutions such as the military, the homosexual movement is hellbent on slllllithering into other vital American institutions and redefining them as well: the nuclear family via marriage and adoption, our education system so that they can indoctrinate the minds of our youth, organized religion and youth mentor groups (i.e. The Boy Scouts of America). As mentioned earlier, homosexual HATE CRIME laws have already changed our legal system for the worse.
If you need to educate yourself on the homosexual lifestyle and their radical agenda, there are plenty of conservative sites you can go to:
Americans For Truth About Homosexuality and Mass Resistance are two of them.
As it stands right now, political correctness rules in dont ask, dont tell. It hasnt the cache for normal people that a strict ban on homosexuals would have, but as a lesser of two evils, its the best we have. I, for one, have no enduring hope that we can keep them out. But repealing dont ask, dont tell would be a mistake.
I'm sure Bill Clinton said those exact words when he sold the phoney "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy to the leaders of our military(while telling the drag queens and child molesters of the homosexual movement behind closed doors: "See, I'm taking care of you").
Since when does a moral society (or it's institutions) give into immoral behavior solely because "it's the lesser of two evils"?
As to sexual deviants in the miltary? Dont be naive. My husband served with CID while we were at Ft Campbell and was an MP throughout his career, and it seems you have NO idea how many different types of sexual deviants you can run into and they aint all gay.
You just made my case. The military deals with other types of sexual deviation, why allow those that are INHERENTLY deviant in their sexual practices into an institution that takes pride in it's moral conduct? (even if you are going by the namby pamby "If I promise not to ask if you're a sexual deviant, you promise not to tell me that you are, ok?")
In other words: "Evil knows no boundaries".
You seem like a good hearted person, so I’ll share somemore information with you:
Further research on “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” shows that Congress DIDN’T pass what Willie Billy Jim Bob Clinton promised his buddies in the GLBT so-called “community” (to eventually let them openly serve in the military):
Why the Congress Rejected Dont Ask, Dont Tell
The following is testimory by Sgt Major Brian Jones (Ret) before the House Armed Services Committee: In Support of Section 654, Title 10, the 1993 Law Stating that
Homosexuals are not Eligible to Serve in the Military (note the “skin to skin” comment).
Best wishes to you and your husband.
Well I am not good hearted. I am a grumpy, ILL-tempered, carved-in-stone arch conservative. I personally find homosexuals to be a noisome and foul lot with habits that make me sick. That being said, God is still working on me.
I’m not worried that the REAL men in the military can handle themselves quite nicely. The ONLY true concern I have is for the long-term health of our soldiers and sailors. We ask an awful lot of them and they VOLUNTEER to do it. We do NOT have the right, before the Lord our GOD, to ask THIS of them.
I couldn’t give a rat’s a$$ if this offends them. They made the choice to behave as they do, so must accept those consequences. What they WANT is the right to infect everyone else, and right now, it is our heroes. And THAT, I cannot condone. It bothers the HELL out of me that not ONE high profile 6talking head or politician is reminding the country of this particular problem, even the military higher-ups. And THEY should know better.
Except for the first part (I do consider myself good hearted, as I want the very best for all human beings and would love nothing more than to see homosexuals accept Christ as their savior), it appears we have something in common (if you need references, ask my wife).
Im not worried that the REAL men in the military can handle themselves quite nicely.
Agreed; but why take their minds off their job by making our military some kind of "social experiment"?
In addition to your very legitimate concern of infection (by the way, you do know that homosexuals cannot donate blood due to their disease ridden lifestyle), implementing a pro-homosexual plan in the military will:
devastate morale and unit cohesion in our Armed Forces;
lead to a drop in enlistment and retention of good soldiers -- and discourage religious men and women of high moral character from seeking military service;
violate the privacy concerns of normal (straight) servicemembers: will new 'Gays-Only' showers be constructed at all U.S. bases?;
ultimately subject millions of small-town, traditionally-minded recruits to pro-homosexual 'diversity' training that undermines historic Judeo-Christian teachings;
further alienate the United States from a Muslim world that already regards us as a decadent nation.
"This anti-military, left-wing policy misadventure must be stopped in its tracks by the American people standing up and shouting a collective 'NO!' to the Democratic/Obama plan to homosexualize the military.
Here is a link to a document by Lieutenant colonel R.L. VanAntwerp, United States Army, entitled "The Greatest Threat...Spiritual Decay".; I think you and your husband would enjoy reading immensely. It gives us a true perspective about not only the founding of our country, but the tradition of the military as well.
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