Skip to comments.Sons of Confederate Veterans have a role in modern America
Posted on 02/03/2010 8:57:04 AM PST by cowboyway
The Sons of Confederate Veterans (S.C.V.) is a fraternal organization composed of male descendents of the men who served in the Confederate Armed Forces during the War for Southern Independence. Their emblems include the controversial Confederate battle flag. Their core responsibility is articulated in a charge given to them by Lt. General Stephen D. Lee which calls on them to defend the heritage, honor, and reputation of the Confederate soldier and the Cause they fought for.
The Cause they fought for was individual liberty, state's rights, the original Constitution and the right to secede. In essence, Confederates fought an aggressive Union which would not allow the states to exercise an accepted right of secession. This right had been exercised by all the original states when they withdrew from the government of the Articles of Confederation, and entered the present day United States of America. Further, the Tenth Amendment reserved all powers not addressed in the Constitution to the States and people respectively. And lastly, the new union was formed as each individual state entered the union.
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In this particular case, it's the nut that doesn't fall far from the tree.
And anyone reading your posts can see you're a lost cause boob.
So, you don’t deny being a Big Gov boy. Hell, we all knew it anyway.
It’s good that you’re finally dropping the hypocrisy and denial act and owning up to what you really are: a labor union loving, big government loving, lincoln loving, obama loving piece of crap yankee from that piece of crap city, Chicago.
Now why don’t you float on back to DU or one of your Sarah Palin bashing threads and quit trying to hijack mine.
Would it do any good if I did? Actually I watch you babble on about big government and I just have to laugh. Your hero Jeff Davis road herd over a government far larger and more intrusive than anything Lincoln advocated. So when it comes to big government supporters you really should be looking in the mirror. Its good that youre finally dropping the hypocrisy and denial act and owning up to what you really are: a labor union loving, big government loving, lincoln loving, obama loving piece of crap yankee from that piece of crap city, Chicago.
You have to appreciate the irony in that statement because when it comes to hypocrisy, denial, and crap you are the all time champ. That's always been the cowboy way.
Now why dont you float on back to DU or one of your Sarah Palin bashing threads and quit trying to hijack mine.
Someone's got to dispute the Southron bullshit.
So I take it you’re a big supporter of Kirk Lyons and the current SCV leadership.
Piss Proud, ain't ja
Now take your High-falutin,Damyankee,City slickin’, South hating ass over to Democratic Underground where it belongs.
And once again we see where anyone who hasn't swallowed the confederate kool-aid by the gallon just has to be a liberal. Now who's piss-proud?
And the Recognition of Bullshit Award goes to..............NON-SENSICAL!!!!
Accepting the award for non-sensical, who couldn't be here due to a previous commitment to appear at the annual NAMBLA conference, is his longtime and dear friend, Barney Frank! clapclapclapclapclapclap...........
So I take it that you're still hanging out at DU and posting 'progressive' hit pieces on all of us right wing 'extremists'.
Thank you...thank you....I appreciate the honor you've done by naming me to this prestigious award. However, modesty forces me to confess that everything I know about spreading bullshit I learned from someone who is far more accomplished at that than I am. Ladies and gentlemen, I think this award really goes to..........CLOWNBOYWAY!!!! Let's give him a big round of applause, when it comes to spouting BS the man has been a mentor to oh so many people....
You know, I first posted a respectful correction to NavVet's false comments on Lee and Grant. You and Idabilly went negative from the beginning. So please save us your phony baloney complaints about my hijacking your Lost Cause thread.
Because he does not have the intellectual prowess to counter the reasons why this would be a good thing, so like liberals, simpletons and dictators he wants to suppress such thoughts.
Lost in this discussion is the premise from the article posted above: America faces a crossroads very similar to those prior to Fort Sumter. More government, less nationalism, maybe socialism, which way do we go?
A simple and accurate statement followed by a logical question.
“The South lost their rebellion. Deal with it”
Indeed. That’s what we are doing now, dealing with the ramifications of having lost the war and federalism, the core of the Confederacy’s government and, once upon a time, the United States. What the southern states tried to get away from was a future susceptible to total federal government dominance and presidential dictators — exactly where we are today, compliments of Abraham Lincoln.
The northern victory on the battlefield — though it took pathetically long considering the odds, and thus, certainly nothing to brag about — has brought us to brink of defeat in terms of self governance and freedom.
Your “victory” is a cold dish indeed. And yet you eat it gleefully and gratefully. It appears that Aristotle was right, there are some people who really do want to be taken care of by the government from the cradle to the grave. Aristotle called them “natural slaves.”
Ironic, isn’t it, that you unwittingly support that which you hate about the South, only under the guise of socialism.
No, the crossroad then was expansion of slavery or not. Whether the government had the right to establish laws in the territories as the Constitution said or not. Whether states rights extended to all states or just the Southern states. There is no similarity between the two, unless you want to say it was a choice between big government under Lincoln vs. bigger, more intrusive government under Davis.
Yes, America is at a crossroads. We do have to choose which path we will take, lower spending or higher spending. Smaller government or more government. Global expansion or domestic priorities. Today's hyper-partisan Washington and the boobs we elect to Congress - on both sides of the aisle - seem unwilling to tackle the issues that need to be tackled and make the hard decisions. There is absolutely no doubt about that. But dusting off the Lost Cause and pretending that it was actually something that it wasn't is ridiculous. The South didn't rebel against the government in Washington, it WAS the government in Washington. For decades prior to the rebellion the South had held a disproportionate level of influence at all levels in D.C. from the number of residents in the White House to the number of clerks in the cabinet departments. If government had grown out of control in 1860 it was because the Southern leadership had let it. So the idea that the rebels were motivated by fear of Washington control is ridiculous in the extreme.
If this nation is to fall and split into two or more countries, and I pray that it does not, then looking to the socialists in 1863 Richmond as an example is absolutely the wrong thing to do. All you need do is look about 85 years earlier than that for all the examples that you need. John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and James Monroe should be our guides, not Jefferson Davis, Alexander Stephens, Robert Lee or Thomas Jackson.
The South lost. For that I am eternally grateful. Their cause was wrong and their premise was flawed from the beginning. They did not flee big government, they left for the right to keep their fellow humans in bondage. And all the Southron revisionism and papering over the facts that you care to produce will not change that. Their cause was not the cause of today. Southern leaders in Congress today are the problem rather than the solution. Direction and inspiration for any future conflict will not come from the memories of the Southern rebellion but from respect and guidance from the American rebellion.
ROTFLMAO!!!!! And you do?????
Wrong again. You’re nothing if not consistent. Care to answer the question?
Answering questions is not the cowboy way. Ducking them and attempted insults are.
“Attempted insults” is right. Most of the Lost Causers seem to occupy a level of wit that makes Larry the Cable Guy sound like part of the Algonquin Round Table.
You realize that now you have to explain to them what the Algonquin Round Table was? Otherwise they’re going to assume you’re talking about King Arthur and they’ll be going, “What the f*ck?”
Actually I’m talking about the Round Table Pizza in Algonquin, Illinois. It’s the wittiest pizza joint in the northwest suburbs.