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Sons of Confederate Veterans have a role in modern America
Nolan Chart ^ | Tuesday, February 2, 2010 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 02/03/2010 8:57:04 AM PST by cowboyway

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To: starlifter
Indeed, southern honor at its finest....

Actually, according the website from which you swiped the photograph, which is about Brown vs The Board of Education of Topeka, its Kansan honor at it's finest. This should come as no surprise to anyone of any real education in American history. American segregation should always be especially associated with the Midwest. The truth is that the South has always been the least segregated part of the country.

101 posted on 02/08/2010 6:44:47 PM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Photobucket A northern state.
102 posted on 02/08/2010 6:49:25 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Brass Lamp
I really should have pointed all interested readers to the website from which starlifter boosted that excellent depiction of Midwestern hospitality: http://elbeltonfoundation.com/.
103 posted on 02/08/2010 6:51:41 PM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: cowboyway; Peanut Gallery

bttt


104 posted on 02/08/2010 7:00:01 PM PST by Professional Engineer (It's too cold to care about Algore's carbon credits. I'm using treehuggers as home heating fuel.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
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105 posted on 02/08/2010 7:01:21 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
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106 posted on 02/08/2010 7:08:33 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Brass Lamp
Did the Easter Bunny tell you that?

I believe it was George Wallace who said, “I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.”

The history books are wrong and he was in fact from the mid-west.

107 posted on 02/08/2010 7:10:25 PM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: bushpilot1
You really believe that, don't you?
108 posted on 02/08/2010 7:12:51 PM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: starlifter
Good grief, George Wallace was not standing in the door of a school in Topeka, which I assure you is located in Kansas. READ the website. Don't just look at the pictures.
109 posted on 02/08/2010 7:20:38 PM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: cowboyway

I have the SCV-TN tag on my 996.

both my wife and I have beaucoup CSA ancestry

we still take the kids to place wreaths and whatnot given where we live

i even insist my kids respect dead Federals too. ..except for a few


110 posted on 02/08/2010 8:04:48 PM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Idabilly
Why?

I dunno, maybe cause they have skin bigotry in the game bro.

111 posted on 02/08/2010 8:06:43 PM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Lee'sGhost

No, it’s because he’s soft on many social issues from abortion to Islam.

Just look at his historical posts.

But aside from all that he’s great.

/s


112 posted on 02/08/2010 8:08:13 PM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: bushpilot1

LOL..they are squirming on their own petard


113 posted on 02/08/2010 8:09:36 PM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: bushpilot1
damn...you knocked em all out hoss...they've gone looking for another thread to grieve over ancestral mistreatment..poor babies

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114 posted on 02/08/2010 8:16:51 PM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Brass Lamp

Truth is unimportant to the South Makes Me Angry For Personal Reasons club here.


115 posted on 02/08/2010 8:17:52 PM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Non-Sequitur; cowboyway; Lee'sGhost
“I think that a stirring rendition of “I’m a Lost Cause Freeper” is in order, in honor of Idabilly, cowboyway, and Lee’s Ghost. And also since Friday is the Great Man’s 201st birthday. Will you do the honors?”

What does the “Honorable MAMA'S BABY, DADDY'S MAYBE Non-Sequitur” bring upon us common folks today?

Rendition? We are in continued celebration of our heroes and pledge ourselves against you and yours.

Lost Causer? Better than being a submissive B!tch. Just because you and your “Love Boutique, Big Governmental, Mattress Back Friends” like the taste of the federal boot; nevertheless don't expect others to share in the disgrace.

116 posted on 02/08/2010 8:26:46 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: wardaddy
Southern reality versus Yankee myth. Nice to see you moved to Tennessee, most of my ancestors family from East Tennessee in the Knoxville area, Monroe and McMinn counties. Prior in Virginia, but that is way way back. Photobucket One of the ancestors living quarters built in 1823. 3rd (Vaughn's) Tennessee Infantry Regiment.
117 posted on 02/08/2010 9:17:02 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

Well, my immediate family plus two older aunts who moved to be close by are all that’s here.

The other 100 plus in my clan are still down there with you which will always be home for me....Prep-Ole Miss...long ago.

My great X4 grandpa was Pappy Tom Sullivan of Smith County ..me and another 1500 folks today..lol

I live now in Williamson county on the old Dawes Plantation remains just a hair from the old Harrison House of Battle of Franklin fame....I can see Carnton too from the hilltop behind my home....and Winstead and Breezy hills are about 800 yards to my northwest ...if you know much about the battle

For the first time since I left Jackson for good 28 years ago I feel at home more or less. But I still go down there a lot...several times per year.


118 posted on 02/08/2010 11:09:45 PM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Idabilly
What does the “Honorable MAMA'S BABY, DADDY'S MAYBE Non-Sequitur” bring upon us common folks today?

You're trying to be insulting, aren't you?

Rendition? We are in continued celebration of our heroes and pledge ourselves against you and yours.

Then your heroes are poorly served by the low quality of their supporters.

Lost Causer? Better than being a submissive B!tch. Just because you and your “Love Boutique, Big Governmental, Mattress Back Friends” like the taste of the federal boot; nevertheless don't expect others to share in the disgrace.

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. Typical incoherent Idabilly post. You really need to wipe the foam off your mouth and calm down.

119 posted on 02/09/2010 4:13:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; Idabilly; Lee'sGhost
in honor of Idabilly, cowboyway, and Lee’s Ghost.

Troll...........

120 posted on 02/09/2010 5:00:45 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Boy, ol' Stand dropped off the face of the earth again, didn't he? I wonder if that book ever came.

Bubba hoe temp - spawn of Troll (ns)

121 posted on 02/09/2010 5:04:56 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur; Bubba Ho-Tep

I’M A REB TROLLING FREEPER
or, The Ballad of NonSensical and his spawn, BubbaHoeTemp

Oh, I’m a Reb Trolling Freeper, now that’s just what I am.
I sit at my computer and type out loads of spam.
I spout my revisionist history just like I learned in screwl.
I don’t need no facts cuz I’m just a government tool.

I hates the Stars and Bars and I want it to be banned.
I only want freedom for my politically correct clan.
I waits for Rebs to post so I can shout out my cat-calls
I’d face them down in person but I just don’t have the balls.

I hates all things about the South I’ve said it many times
I secretly fell guilty because of my ancestors crimes.
The Rebs will never know it because I’ve been brain washed
And everything but trolling about me has been squashed.

The Rebs made us look stupid on every battle field
They showed up ill equipped and my ancestors were killed.
But I will not admit this, the facts are on my side
Or at least the ones I make up since my honesty has died.

I’m stuck inside the four walls of this facility.
They’ll never let me out because of my low mental faculties.
But as long as I have my computer and Freeper log in ID
I’ll keep posting lies and venom for all eternity.


122 posted on 02/09/2010 5:33:33 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Idabilly

I love being a member of the “Lost Cause”. What they forget is that the “cause” was about freedom. Rather be a “Lost Causer” than a “Found Socialist.” But that’s just me.

It is funny that their supposed insult is really a constant reminder that our cause was about freedom. That they are so clueless is not surprising.


123 posted on 02/09/2010 6:02:27 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: cowboyway; Bubba Ho-Tep

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Bubba Ho-Tep. But in this case it also points out a total lack of creativity on the part of the Lost Cause brigade.


124 posted on 02/09/2010 6:02:28 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Brass Lamp

Damn it. There you go resorting to facts. They don’t care about no stinkin’ facts. It’s all about the hate, man.


125 posted on 02/09/2010 6:03:45 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: cowboyway
Troll...........

That's the best you can do? Why I'd expected more from you, given the rabid level of most of your responses.

126 posted on 02/09/2010 6:04:55 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway

I like it, but I think it should say something about blogging in their mom’s basement.


127 posted on 02/09/2010 6:07:53 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: bushpilot1

As a black man once told me, “In the north the white people tell me we are equals but flee from their neighborhoods when a black family moves in and they call me nigger when they think I can’t hear. In the South we live in the same neighborhoods and if somebody doesn’t like me they tell me to my face. But when they say that they don’t like me it seldom has anything to do with my race. I will never live in the north again.”


128 posted on 02/09/2010 6:13:50 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Non-Sequitur; Bubba Ho-Tep
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Bubba Ho-Tep. But in this case it also points out a total lack of creativity on the part of the Lost Cause brigade

I'm sure that Major Innes Randolph would be equally flattered and as unimpressed by your spawns creativity.

129 posted on 02/09/2010 6:33:05 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Brass Lamp
Actually, according the website from which you swiped the photograph, which is about Brown vs The Board of Education of Topeka, its Kansan honor at it's finest.

Indeed it is, had you taken the effort to actually look into the matter. Brown v. Board of Ed was actually Brown v. Topeka Board of Education, et.al. It was a grouping of similar cases from Kansas, South Carolina, Delaware, D.C. and Virginia. And the interesting part in all of this is what happened after Brown. By the time the Supreme Court handed down their decision, the Topeka School System was already well on their way to implementing an integration plan that fully complied with the court's finding. In the Virginia case, Davis v. County School Board of Prince Edward County, the Board of Supervisors for Prince Edward County refused to appropriate any funds for the County School Board for the period 1959-1964, effectively closing the public schools rather than integrate them. In the South Carolina case, Briggs v. Elliott, a three judge panel had voted two to one to uphold segregation. The lone dissenting vote, Judge J. Waite Warring, was driven from the state for his vote supporting segregation. In any event it took years for integration to finally come. In the D.C. case, Bolling v. C. Melvin Sharpe, Southern congressmen and senators did all they could to hinder the implementation of the Brown ruling. And in the Delaware case, Belton v. Gebhart, again it took years before the order was implemented.

So on the one hand you have a Yankee state of Kansas fully implementing the ruling in a timely manner and on the other hand you have Southern states and Southern leaders doing everything in their power up to and including doing away with the schools altogether to keep from integrating. And the reaction elsewhere in the South is noteworthy as well. In Virginia, Senator Harry F. Byrd, Sr. organized the Massive Resistance movement that included the closing of schools rather than desegregating them. In 1957, Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus called out his state's National Guard to block black students' entry to Little Rock High School. In Florida the legislature passed an Interposition Resolution in 1957 denouncing the decision and declaring it null and void. (Another attempt at nullification it seems). And of course in 1963, Alabama Gov. George Wallace personally blocked the door to Foster Auditorium at the University of Alabama to prevent the enrollment of two black students.

Southern honor at its finest indeed.

130 posted on 02/09/2010 6:35:36 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lee'sGhost; Idabilly

The cheap shots that bubba hoe temp has been taking at stand watie, who is not here to defend himself, continues to prove the cowardice and total lack of honor of these yankee piles of buzzard crap.


131 posted on 02/09/2010 6:37:32 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Lee'sGhost
What they forget is that the “cause” was about freedom.

Well for two-thirds of your population at any rate.

Rather be a “Lost Causer” than a “Found Socialist.” But that’s just me.

Most amusing, considering the socialistic tendencies of Jeff Davis' confederacy.

That they are so clueless is not surprising.

Funny. We've reached the same conclusion about all y'all.

132 posted on 02/09/2010 6:38:14 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
I'm sure that Major Innes Randolph would be equally flattered and as unimpressed by your spawns creativity.

And no doubt you agree completely with the ideas Randolph expressed in his poem?

133 posted on 02/09/2010 6:39:47 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lee'sGhost
No truer words have ever been spoken.

submission is their middle name

Non-sense - is after all ‘Piss Proud’!

134 posted on 02/09/2010 7:05:46 AM PST by Idabilly
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Well for two-thirds of your population at any rate.”

Just as it was under the United States. No point made there.

“Most amusing, considering the socialistic tendencies of Jeff Davis’ confederacy.”

But not nearly as amusing as forgetting to compare it to Lincoln’s dictatorship. No point made there.

“Funny. We’ve reached the same conclusion about all y’all.”

It is funny. People with no intellectual honesty reaching conclusions. Of course, the conclusions reached are indicative of the lack of that dishonesty. No point made there. Not even any sense made.

I don’t know why you continue to post things that are, well, pointless.


135 posted on 02/09/2010 7:10:34 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: cowboyway; Bubba Ho-Tep
The cheap shots that bubba hoe temp has been taking at stand watie, who is not here to defend himself, continues to prove the cowardice and total lack of honor of these yankee piles of buzzard crap.

Said by the man who had not the courtesy to ping the person he's lamely attemtping to insult...

136 posted on 02/09/2010 8:14:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lee'sGhost
Just as it was under the United States. No point made there.

But honesty is not a Southron hallmark it seems. You claim your cause was for 'freedom'. Let's be honest, it was for the freedom to continue to enslave others and the freedom to take your institution of slavery to every corner of the country that instigated your rebellion.

But not nearly as amusing as forgetting to compare it to Lincoln’s dictatorship. No point made there.

However an honest comparison of Lincoln's actions and Davis' would show that the true tyrant ruled south of the Potomac and not north. Davis abused his constitution and trampled on freedoms and states rights in ways that Lincoln would never have contemplated.

People with no intellectual honesty reaching conclusions.

And yet you continue to try.

I don’t know why you continue to post things that are, well, pointless.

I could easily ask the same about you.

137 posted on 02/09/2010 8:20:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Most amusing, considering the socialistic tendencies of Jeff Davis' confederacy.

More delusional revisionism from the Master Delusionist, known hypocrite and pathalogical liar.

Davis supported a limited government, federalism, and an expansionist foreign policy (go west young man). Jefferson Davis was a statesman, a graduate of West Point, a US congressman, US senator and Secretary of War; all in all, a far more interesting and honorable man than the slippery lawyer from Illinois.

138 posted on 02/09/2010 8:37:49 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
And no doubt you agree completely with the ideas Randolph expressed in his poem?

You are so incredebly clever!!

You want me to say 'Yes!Yes!' so that you can point your pudgy finger at the screen and shout (to no one in particular) "See!! I told the world in post #66 of this thread that cowboyway 'hates the United States'!!"

You are so miserably pathetic............

139 posted on 02/09/2010 8:44:51 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Said by the man who had not the courtesy to ping the person he's lamely attemtping to insult...

Just like you he's always here, posting his insults, nonsense and lies.

Stand, on the other hand, is not here, in case you haven't noticed.

140 posted on 02/09/2010 8:47:46 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: bushpilot1
A northern state.

Do you really want to play this game? Because I can come up with far more pictures of southern segregation than you can northern. By the way, the state in this picture is Montana.

141 posted on 02/09/2010 8:49:15 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: cowboyway
More delusional revisionism from the Master Delusionist, known hypocrite and pathalogical liar.

ROTFLMAO!

Davis supported a limited government, federalism, and an expansionist foreign policy (go west young man).

Which is, of course, why he refused to staff the third branch of government, seized control of the milita from the states, nationalized industries like textile and salt and liquor, instituted an income tax and proposed rates that were confiscatory in nature, seized a percentage of private farm produce without compensation 'for the war effort', forced private ship owners to reserve part of their cargo space without compensation for government shipments 'for the war effort', levied slave labor without compensating the owners 'for the war effort', suspended habeas corpus miles from the battlefield, jailed thousands without charges, all because he was a "limited government federalist". Thomas Jefferson would puke at the idea of being linked with a fraud like Davis.

...a far more interesting and honorable man than the slippery lawyer from Illinois.

As the Southron myth machine would have us believe. The truth is much different. And is, apparently, a foreign concept to the rebel horde.

142 posted on 02/09/2010 8:52:26 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway

Better than the last time you tried your hand at it, but you still need to work on the meter. I give it a C-.


143 posted on 02/09/2010 8:53:17 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: cowboyway

Then how about commenting on the current leadership of the SCV?


144 posted on 02/09/2010 8:54:35 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: cowboyway
Just like you he's always here, posting his insults, nonsense and lies.

Yes you are.

145 posted on 02/09/2010 8:57:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Let’s be honest, it was for the freedom to continue to enslave others and the freedom to take your institution of slavery to every corner of the country that instigated your rebellion.”

I’m always honest. Glad to see you want to start. But you are wrong. The South had NO desire to force slavery in ANY state where it did not exist. Your statement is wrong. Period.

“However an honest comparison of Lincoln’s actions and Davis’ would show that the true tyrant ruled south of the Potomac and not north. Davis abused his constitution and trampled on freedoms and states rights in ways that Lincoln would never have contemplated.”

LOL! The ultimate difference being, even if that were true, that the Confederate states could LEAVE Davis any time. Which makes your whole premise wrong, again.

“And yet you continue to try...” to reason with them. And I admit, it is a failing.

“I could easily ask the same about you. “

But I would be asking from a documented background of your failures, while your attempts to discredit me are pathetic Pee Wee Herman come backs.


146 posted on 02/09/2010 8:58:43 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: cowboyway
You want me to say 'Yes!Yes!' so that you can point your pudgy finger at the screen and shout (to no one in particular) "See!! I told the world in post #66 of this thread that cowboyway 'hates the United States'!!"

Gosh, you are just too clever for me, aren't you? </sarcasm>

147 posted on 02/09/2010 8:59:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
The cheap shots that bubba hoe temp has been taking at stand watie, who is not here to defend himself, continues to prove the cowardice and total lack of honor of these yankee piles of buzzard crap.

You're doing a fine job of filling in Watie's slot as the lead foaming-at-the-mouth neo-confederate loon around here. Now you just need to make up some titles for reference books.

148 posted on 02/09/2010 9:05:07 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Lee'sGhost
I’m always honest. Glad to see you want to start. But you are wrong. The South had NO desire to force slavery in ANY state where it did not exist. Your statement is wrong. Period.

Under the Dred Scott decision they had that right regardless of local state laws. And their desire was to retain the right take slavery to any territory they wanted. I should have been more clear.

The ultimate difference being, even if that were true, that the Confederate states could LEAVE Davis any time.

A claim that, of course, can never be proven or disproven. However, considering the way Davis trampled the rights of the states it'd be hard to see him allowing them to leave.

149 posted on 02/09/2010 9:06:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
The truth is much different

The truth as you know it is limited to the fuzzy constructs of your own mind with absolutely no basis in reality.

150 posted on 02/09/2010 9:06:37 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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