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Sons of Confederate Veterans have a role in modern America
Nolan Chart ^ | Tuesday, February 2, 2010 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 02/03/2010 8:57:04 AM PST by cowboyway

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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Then how about commenting on the current leadership of the SCV?

I don't know the man.

Why don't you give us your unbiased version?

/sarc

151 posted on 02/09/2010 9:08:34 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
The truth as you know it is limited to the fuzzy constructs of your own mind with absolutely no basis in reality.

Reality is another concept foreign to the Southron contingent.

Hey, we could go on like this all day but dealing with you three is an exercise in futility. You can have your thread back.

152 posted on 02/09/2010 9:10:02 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Now you just need to make up some titles for reference books.

Here's one:
"Ridiculous yankee lies and myths from non-sequitur and his disciples."

153 posted on 02/09/2010 9:13:23 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
You can have your thread back.

Running out of lies, huh?

Well, bye.......

154 posted on 02/09/2010 9:14:55 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
Running out of lies, huh?

No, just growing tired or your's.

Well, bye.......

You forgot your picture....

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155 posted on 02/09/2010 9:39:07 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
Why don't you give us your unbiased version?

Sure. Several years ago, Ron Wilson, who has a long history of white supremacist activism, and Kirk Lyons, whose background is even more colorfully racist (his wedding was performed by Richard Butler at the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho), succeeded in taking over the leadership of the SCV and turning it into from a heritage-promotion group in a more explicitly political organization with extensive ties to southern nationalist groups like the League of the South. Large numbers of members who opposed this change were labeled "grannies" and were purged from the organization. Membership plummeted by almost half.

Anything you'd like to correct or add?

156 posted on 02/09/2010 9:53:59 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: bushpilot1

So the fountain in your picture is, in fact, the one from the Buffalo incident? Is that right?


157 posted on 02/09/2010 10:37:51 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yes. Being clear would help tremendously. But why change now?

“However, considering the way Davis trampled the rights of the states it’d be hard to see him allowing them to leave.”

True. If you’re on drugs. So, in your head, you can imagine Southern states fighting EACH OTHER for the right of secession from the Confederacy as they are fighting the U.S. for the right to secede. Hmmm...wonder if the northern states that believed the southern states should be able to secede would leave the Union to join THOSE states? Or, perhaps we could have had FOUR separate countries fighting each other in the RFKATUS.

I realize that you WILL NOT understand what I am about to say, but you just gave everyone else on this thread one hell of a good laugh.


158 posted on 02/09/2010 11:00:36 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost; wardaddy; stainlessbanner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRyIMqXA_o8

Bugs Bunny in Dixie 1956 (short version). In the full cartoon Disney uses the words >>> War Between the States. Notice the difference in landscape.


159 posted on 02/09/2010 12:45:24 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

Typed Disney by mistake.


160 posted on 02/09/2010 12:54:59 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Lee'sGhost

NS just can’t leave. He threatened to leave after your post #146 cleaned his clock but he just won’t go.

Leave NS!! We’re sick of you and your lies and your pathetic attempts to spin the argument to support some delusional theory that you’ve concocted.


161 posted on 02/09/2010 1:08:02 PM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Kirk Lyons, whose background is even more colorfully racist

Is the racist the one in the middle?

And you say that he "succeeded in taking over the leadership of the SCV"?

I couldn't find his name anywhere HERE.

162 posted on 02/09/2010 1:34:24 PM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Lee'sGhost
I realize that you WILL NOT understand what I am about to say, but you just gave everyone else on this thread one hell of a good laugh.

NS is the source of constant laughter and Bravo on your latest mockery of his moronic postings.

163 posted on 02/09/2010 1:37:21 PM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
That's the best you've got? That Lyons hangs out with HK Edgerton?

This isn't exactly revisionist history, although I understand that your willful obtuseness won't allow you to ever admit that it's true. Maybe you need to go to savethescv.org. There's plenty there that you can use to educate yourself on the leadership and internal politics of the SCV.

By the way, the other guy in that picture is Neil Payne. He was once arrested for harboring Louis Beam, the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan who was being hunted by the FBI. Payne is married to Lyons' wife's sister, the four of them married in the same ceremony at the Aryan Nations compound. Their best man? Funny you should ask. It was Grand Dragon Louis Beam.

I couldn't find his name anywhere HERE.

Then you didn't look very hard. Try the search.

164 posted on 02/09/2010 2:24:02 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
That Lyons hangs out with HK Edgerton?

I don't know who he hangs out with; you and NS for all I know.

I do know that you accused him of being a racist and the first thing that my search found was a picture of him with a black man. Kinda of an odd thing for a racist to do, wouldn't you say? Furthermore, it's kinda of an odd thing for a black man to get his picture taken with a white racist, donchathink?

Then you didn't look very hard. Try the search.

The page I linked to was the leadership page. One would think that if he had 'taken over' the SCV, as you charged, then his name must surely be on the leadership page. All that can be found for Lyons on the SCV site is a contact link for a youth camp.

So, bubba, is Lyons the leader of the SCV, as you charged (lied about is more appropriate) or isn't he?

165 posted on 02/09/2010 2:41:43 PM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
I do know that you accused him of being a racist and the first thing that my search found was a picture of him with a black man. Kinda of an odd thing for a racist to do, wouldn't you say? Furthermore, it's kinda of an odd thing for a black man to get his picture taken with a white racist, donchathink?

Then clearly you don't know much about HK Edgerton. And here I thought you might be even marginally informed. Did you read the article that accompanied the picture?

So, bubba, is Lyons the leader of the SCV, as you charged (lied about is more appropriate) or isn't he?

I never said that he was the leader of the SCV. I said that he worked with Ron Wilson, along with Denne Sweeney and some others, to win leadership positions in the SCV. Wilson did win and turned Lyons, with his Southern Legal Resource Center, into the SCV's legal team, sending tens of thousands of dollars his way. He has held board positions in the SCV. Like I said, go look at the savethescv.org website and educate yourself.

166 posted on 02/09/2010 3:19:45 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: cowboyway
Kirk Lyons is an Attorney. Attorneys DO represent certain clients

Bubbatobefemale/non-sense and the Southern Poverty Law center = Cultural Marxist

We should be asking -WHY- They continue with SPLC/ACLU talking points.

167 posted on 02/09/2010 3:37:48 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: Non-Sequitur
I will preface this response with the clarification that I do not, have never, and will never deny the existence and severity of segregation in the South, nor will I attempt to suggest such a denial in reply to its reference. But neither will I deny, nor affect the denial, that it existed elsewhere.

Indeed it is, had you taken the effort to actually look into the matter. Brown v. Board of Ed was actually Brown v. Topeka Board of Education, et.al. It was a grouping of similar cases from Kansas, South Carolina, Delaware, D.C. and Virginia.

Actually, I HAD taken such effort each time I was required to write upon it. Tacit accusations only count if they connect. I also did not recommend that starlifter read the website without looking it over myself, which is how I recognized the repackaged language: "In December, 1952, the U.S. Supreme Court had on its docket cases from Kansas, Delaware, the District of Columbia, South Carolina, and Virginia, all of which challenged the constitutionality of racial segregation in public schools." In fact, the site's namesake E.L. Belton was a principle in the appended Delaware case.

And the interesting part in all of this is what happened after Brown. By the time the Supreme Court handed down their decision, the Topeka School System was already well on their way to implementing an integration plan that fully complied with the court's finding. In the Virginia case, Davis v. County School Board of Prince Edward County, the Board of Supervisors for Prince Edward County refused to appropriate any funds for the County School Board for the period 1959-1964, effectively closing the public schools rather than integrate them. In the South Carolina case, Briggs v. Elliott, a three judge panel had voted two to one to uphold segregation. The lone dissenting vote, Judge J. Waite Warring, was driven from the state for his vote supporting segregation. In any event it took years for integration to finally come. In the D.C. case, Bolling v. C. Melvin Sharpe, Southern congressmen and senators did all they could to hinder the implementation of the Brown ruling. And in the Delaware case, Belton v. Gebhart, again it took years before the order was implemented. So on the one hand you have a Yankee state of Kansas fully implementing the ruling in a timely manner and on the other hand you have Southern states and Southern leaders doing everything in their power up to and including doing away with the schools altogether to keep from integrating. And the reaction elsewhere in the South is noteworthy as well. In Virginia, Senator Harry F. Byrd, Sr. organized the Massive Resistance movement that included the closing of schools rather than desegregating them. In 1957, Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus called out his state's National Guard to block black students' entry to Little Rock High School. In Florida the legislature passed an Interposition Resolution in 1957 denouncing the decision and declaring it null and void. (Another attempt at nullification it seems). And of course in 1963, Alabama Gov. George Wallace personally blocked the door to Foster Auditorium at the University of Alabama to prevent the enrollment of two black students.

Of course, you are such a fair and honest fellow that we can depend upon this to be a comprehensive and objective account. I will read it again with the certain hope that I will find scathing denunciation of the Boston desegregation riots. After all, principled crusader that you are, you would never engage in uneven cherry-picking.

Southern honor at its finest indeed.

It is as Southern as nitrogen, according to your standard of proof. You and starlifter both have concluded posts with the claim that any occurrence of segregation within the South makes the institution "Southern" regardless of its scope.

168 posted on 02/09/2010 4:36:55 PM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: Idabilly
And you don't see anything of significance in the fact that Lyons was married by Richard Butler in the Aryan Nations Compound, with the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan as his best man, right? It must have been the only church that had an opening on the date they wanted.

By the way, that isn't some Morris Dees slander. Lyons says it himself on his site.

169 posted on 02/09/2010 5:31:47 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Brass Lamp
I will preface this response with the clarification that I do not, have never, and will never deny the existence and severity of segregation in the South, nor will I attempt to suggest such a denial in reply to its reference. But neither will I deny, nor affect the denial, that it existed elsewhere.

Of course you won't.

Of course, you are such a fair and honest fellow that we can depend upon this to be a comprehensive and objective account. I will read it again with the certain hope that I will find scathing denunciation of the Boston desegregation riots. After all, principled crusader that you are, you would never engage in uneven cherry-picking.

And you are so fair and honest that the fact that you ignored the Virginia and South Carolina parts of the case in your haste to try and bash the North with it was no doubt simple oversight. But by all means check my facts. Research is to be encouraged among the Southron contingent.

It is as Southern as nitrogen, according to your standard of proof.

It is largely imaginary, according to the Southern representatives who post here.

170 posted on 02/09/2010 5:41:45 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Guilt by association? SLANDER IS a tortable offense. Would the ACLU ‘legal staff’ be considered right wing IF defending a Tea party participant? Your accusation comes directly from http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2000/summer/in-the-lyons-den

With YOUR current racist as commander and chief - You question Lyons?

171 posted on 02/09/2010 6:39:28 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: bushpilot1

Good find bushpilot1 - thanks for the ping


172 posted on 02/09/2010 7:18:53 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Idabilly

I’m not worried about Kirk Lyons suing me for saying that he was married by Richard Butler at the Aryan Nations compound, with the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan as his best man. That’s a proveable fact to which Lyons admits. If he wants to come out from under his rock and sue me, I’ll be more than happy to accept service. If he’s going to sue everyone who has pointed out his racist affilliations, though, he’s going to have a long list.


173 posted on 02/09/2010 10:12:32 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: cowboyway
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174 posted on 02/09/2010 10:40:25 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Butler was a travesty for North Idaho.

First: His group moves in
Second: Leftist groups arrive
Third: Small Town - became CNN headline news

Cause and effect - This small minority of leftist bullied our State legislator to pass ‘Hate Crime’ legislation.This new law will get you five years in prison- Say a racial slur and off to prison.

They turned this area into ‘ Nazi Germany vs Soviet Union’ and we've been fighting that stigma ever since.

We view the SPLC & Butler as equals. Which is worse? They both violate peoples rights.

175 posted on 02/10/2010 4:45:56 AM PST by Idabilly
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To: cowboyway

Thanks.

Though I take no pride in besting fools and simpletons, it is good that the record be set straight.


176 posted on 02/10/2010 4:55:02 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I never said that he was the leader of the SCV.

From your post #156 "Kirk Lyons, whose background is even more colorfully racist (his wedding was performed by Richard Butler at the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho), succeeded in taking over the leadership of the SCV"

Bye -bye liar.

BTW, your attempt to impugn the SCV by falsely stating that a 'know racist' was its leader is just another example of how you libs operate. It's the same BS modus operandi that you're currently using to impugn the Tea Party.

177 posted on 02/10/2010 7:48:08 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: bushpilot1

By the standards of NS and his northern contingent, the kid on the left is obviously a racist and the kid on the right is under suspicion of being a racist.


178 posted on 02/10/2010 7:54:22 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
Bye -bye liar.

I guess whatever education you received didn't include the concept of conjunctions creating multiple subjects for a sentence. Of course, I know that Lost Causers would truly be lost without their creative ways of attempting to shift context and trying to make words mean something different. The actual, complete sentence that I wrote was,

"Several years ago, Ron Wilson, who has a long history of white supremacist activism, and Kirk Lyons, whose background is even more colorfully racist (his wedding was performed by Richard Butler at the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho), succeeded in taking over the leadership of the SCV and turning it into from a heritage-promotion group in a more explicitly political organization with extensive ties to southern nationalist groups like the League of the South."

Now, did you see that part that said "Ron Wilson"? Ron Wilson was the one who actually occupied the seat of Commander in Chief of the SCV.

What happened was that in 2000, Kirk Lyons won a seat in the Army of Northern Virginia department board. In 2002, he ran for commander of that division, the largest and most important of the SCV's three departments, while Wilson ran for national Commander in Chief. Lyons' history became an issue and he lost the election by a small number of votes. Wilson, however, won and appointed Lyons to the national board, while Lyons put Wilson on the board of his Southern Legal Resource Center and gave Wilson's daughter a job there. Wilson then sent all of the SCV's litigation work to Lyons for a series of confederate flag lawsuits.

A shism formed in the SCV between the new wave of leaders who wanted to make the SCV more politically active and the section of the membership who wanted to keep the SCV as it was, mostly devoted to historical preservation, "tombstone polishing" in the words of the Wilson/Lyons faction. These two factions became known as the "Activists" and the "Traditionalists", or, more frequently, the "Lunatics" and the "Grannies." The Grannies pushed for a resolution disavowing racism and Wilson responded by purging large numbers of them, suspended whole camps and attempting to seize their funds. Over the next few years, membership in the SCV plummeted from 30,000 to 18,000.

If you want to give an alternative version of what has happened in the SCV in the last decade, I'd be interested to see it. Otherwise, I await your latest attempt at an ad hominem insult.

179 posted on 02/10/2010 9:55:44 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: cowboyway
By the standards of NS and his northern contingent, the kid on the left is obviously a racist and the kid on the right is under suspicion of being a racist.

By the standards of likesboysway, the mob of people photographed at a lynching couldn't possibly be racist, because there's a black person in the picture.

180 posted on 02/10/2010 9:59:46 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
whatever education you received didn't include the concept of conjunctions

Another common liberal tactic: when you're busted saying something stupid, counter attack by questioning your opponents education and intelligence. (Sarah Palin gets this all the time.)

did you see that part that said "Ron Wilson"

Did you see this part? " and Kirk Lyons,"

I know you yankee liberals aren't real bright but do you know what the work 'and' means, don't you?

If you want to give an alternative version of what has happened in the SCV in the last decade,

Another liberal tactic: imply that I said something that I didn't. (your mentor, NS, tried that same tactic on this very thread by stating unequivocally that I 'hate the United States')

Once again you've been exposed as a liar. Your attempts to deny your dishonesty are lame and pathetic.

181 posted on 02/10/2010 10:49:40 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
the mob of people photographed at a lynching couldn't possibly be racist, because there's a black person in the picture.

Give some details of the rest of your warped picture. For instance, is the lynch mob white? What color is the person being lynched? (I mean, you do know, with your superior education and intelligence, that other races, including whites, were also lynched, right?)

But your statement stands for what it is: your narrow mindedness and irrational hatred of Southerners automatically assumes that anybody with Confederate symbols is a racist, including the white kid in the photo above.

182 posted on 02/10/2010 10:59:32 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
Give some details of the rest of your warped picture. For instance, is the lynch mob white? What color is the person being lynched? (I mean, you do know, with your superior education and intelligence, that other races, including whites, were also lynched, right?)

First, in all the pictures of lynchings that I've seen (they were often sold as souvenir postcards), I've never seen a black face in the mob, and white victims have been few and far between. (e.g. the Leo Frank case). If you'd like, I can post some pictures.

Let's do the numbers:

Lynchings, United States, 1882-1968: 4773
Black Victims Nationally: 3446
White Victims Nationally: 1297

Lynchings, 11 Southern States: 3531
Black Victims, 11 Southern States: 3029
White Victims 11 Southern States: 492

Lynchings, 39 Non-Southern States: 1202
Black Victims, 39 Non-Southern States: 427
White Victims, 39 Non-Southern States: 775

So nearly two-thirds of all documented lynchings were of blacks, in the south. Lynching of blacks in the remaining 39 states are a little less than 9% of all lynching victims. Black victims in the south outnumber white victims 6 to 1. In the other states, white victims outnumber black victims almost 2 to 1.

A case can be made that southerners are more egalitarian in their lynching. Forty percent of all white victims of lynching came from those 11 states.

183 posted on 02/10/2010 12:01:04 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: cowboyway
Another common liberal tactic: when you're busted saying something stupid, counter attack by questioning your opponents education and intelligence.

Your lack of self-awareness is awe-inspiring. Have you actually read your own posts?

Did you see this part? " and Kirk Lyons,"

The operative conjunction is "and." I know it's a small word, but you really must try to read them all. If I say that Barack Obama and George Soros conspired to take over leadership of the the US, are you really going to shout, "George Soros wasn't actually elected to be president, therefore he has no influence"?

Another liberal tactic: imply that I said something that I didn't.

Now you really have gone around the bend. The sentence fragment that you quote, "If you want to give an alternative version of what has happened in the SCV in the last decade..." doesn't imply that you've said anything. Quite to the contrary. You haven't actually said anything about the recent history of the SCV and its leadership. You asked for my version of the events. I gave it. That sentence is an invitation for you to give your version.

184 posted on 02/10/2010 12:17:45 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
A case can be made that southerners are more egalitarian in their lynching. Forty percent of all white victims of lynching came from those 11 states.

Post #183 proves you can use da google......wow.............we're too awestruck to continue.....................

(what does any of that have to do with you implying that the white kid was a racist?)

185 posted on 02/10/2010 2:21:54 PM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
You asked for my version of the events. I gave it. That sentence is an invitation for you to give your version.

And so you did. We're all so very grateful that we have a true google master in our midst.

Of course, like NS, you have the tendency to cherry pick certain words and phrases in a lame attempt to make your case but you seem to forget that the rest of us have da googles also.

Why don't you take your lying ass back over to DU? I'm sure that NS is missing you.

186 posted on 02/10/2010 2:31:47 PM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway

Your paranoia knows no bounds. I never implied that the kid in the picture is racist. I don’t know anything about him. What I’m doing is mocking your apparent belief that merely being photographed with a black person is incontrovertible evidence that the person isn’t a racist.


187 posted on 02/10/2010 2:32:14 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: cowboyway
Of course, like NS, you have the tendency to cherry pick certain words and phrases in a lame attempt to make your case but you seem to forget that the rest of us have da googles also.

You, on the other hand, seem to be unable to make any case at all except through bullying and bluster, despite your claim to be able to conduct a Google search.

188 posted on 02/10/2010 2:42:04 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Of course you won't.

Well, it was a polite invitation to honesty.

I ended my last post with a calculated accusation which I will restore: "You ... both have concluded posts with the claim that any occurrence of segregation within the South makes the institution "Southern" regardless of its scope." You did not bother to deny this. Would you like to do so now?

And you are so fair and honest that the fact that you ignored the Virginia and South Carolina parts of the case in your haste to try and bash the North with it was no doubt simple oversight. But by all means check my facts. Research is to be encouraged among the Southron contingent.

Here, you prove the above accusation to be truthful. If the Brown case testifies to the existence of segregation in South Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, Delaware, and the District of Columbia, then I take from it that segregation was present in South Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, Delaware, and the District of Columbia. Your takeaway is that it existed in South Carolina and Virginia and fault any who cite Kansas. I anticipated this when I prefaced my previous post with a refusal to deny that segregation existed in South as it did elsewhere, yet you accuse me of ignoring South Carolina and Virginia precisely because I brought up Kansas. Your recitation only supports your conclusion ("Southern honor at its finest") if, indeed, your standard of proof is "any occurrence...within the South makes the institution 'Southern'". I did not, for my part, refer to the Boston riots to suggest that forced segregation should be considered 'Northeastern'.

It is largely imaginary, according to the Southern representatives who post here.

If you would explain what your standard of proof is, exactly, you could prove them wrong.

189 posted on 02/10/2010 4:05:35 PM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I never implied that the kid in the picture is racist.

Liar.

190 posted on 02/11/2010 8:30:03 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
You, on the other hand, seem to be unable to make any case at all

A case for what? That you're a liar?

That's been done so many times be me and everybody else that you have become nothing more than a sick joke.

191 posted on 02/11/2010 8:32:28 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Brass Lamp

NS never, ever admits when he’s wrong.

He just runs away.


192 posted on 02/11/2010 8:41:17 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
So give your side of what's gone on in the SCV. Prove me wrong. What are you afraid of?

Surely you've got something in your argument other than insults and bluster.

193 posted on 02/11/2010 8:52:01 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: cowboyway
Liar.

Your detachment from anything resembling the real world continues. I never even mentioned the kid. What I said was "By the standards of likesboysway, the mob of people photographed at a lynching couldn't possibly be racist, because there's a black person in the picture. "

194 posted on 02/11/2010 8:58:04 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Prove me wrong.

I already did, dumbass. You claimed that Lyons had taken over the SCV and when challenged to prove it you start doing the liberal cha-cha to say that you really didn't say what you had said.

Surely you've got something in your argument other than insults and bluster.

'Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.'

195 posted on 02/11/2010 9:00:12 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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Hmmm...nope, nothing’s changed on this POS post of your’s...not that I expected it to...bydee-bye.


196 posted on 02/11/2010 9:01:49 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
You claimed that Lyons had taken over the SCV and when challenged to prove it you start doing the liberal cha-cha to say that you really didn't say what you had said.

Keep burying your head in the sand about the SCV. Anyone who does the research (a group that clearly doesn't include you) will see that what I say is true. I've spelled it out too many times now, but apparently the only way that you'll believe that Kirk Lyons held a position of great influence within the SCV is if he actually occupies the Commander in Chief slot. Somewhere, George Soros laughs.

For anyone else reading this thread, savethescv.org has the whole story, from former members of the group.

'Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.'

And yet I persist. Because arguing with idiots like you is actually fairly entertaining.

197 posted on 02/11/2010 9:12:51 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
For anyone else reading this thread, savethescv.org has the whole story, from former members of the group.

Sounds like sour grapes to me not to mention that he's caught the PC.

If you and Hilderman and the rest of you PC yankees think that 'education' and 'public relations' is going to change the hearts and minds of the NAACP, the New Black Panthers, etc. then you're dumber than an anvil.

Sounds like the SCV is catching up with me in that they don't give a damn what the NAACP, Obama, you damnyankees or anybody else thinks about me, the Stars and Bars, the Confederacy or anything else concerning the South and our Southern heritage.

Put that in your bong and smoke it, bubba.

arguing with idiots like you is actually fairly entertaining.

Yep.

198 posted on 02/11/2010 12:35:51 PM PST by cowboyway
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To: Non-Sequitur
Hmmm...nope, nothing’s changed on this POS post of your’s...not that I expected it to...bydee-bye.

Yawn...................

199 posted on 02/11/2010 12:36:25 PM PST by cowboyway
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I never even mentioned the kid. What I said was "By the standards of likesboysway, the mob of people photographed at a lynching couldn't possibly be racist, because there's a black person in the picture.

What kind of dance is that? The Clinton waltz? The John F'n Kerry shuffle? The Obama spin?

200 posted on 02/11/2010 12:42:33 PM PST by cowboyway
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