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Sons of Confederate Veterans have a role in modern America
Nolan Chart ^ | Tuesday, February 2, 2010 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 02/03/2010 8:57:04 AM PST by cowboyway

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To: Idabilly
The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree!

In this particular case, it's the nut that doesn't fall far from the tree.

41 posted on 02/05/2010 6:09:32 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
I pointed out what is obvious to everyone that reads your pompous postings: that you are a Big Government blowhard.

And anyone reading your posts can see you're a lost cause boob.

42 posted on 02/05/2010 1:26:26 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

So, you don’t deny being a Big Gov boy. Hell, we all knew it anyway.

It’s good that you’re finally dropping the hypocrisy and denial act and owning up to what you really are: a labor union loving, big government loving, lincoln loving, obama loving piece of crap yankee from that piece of crap city, Chicago.

Now why don’t you float on back to DU or one of your Sarah Palin bashing threads and quit trying to hijack mine.


43 posted on 02/05/2010 2:20:26 PM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
So, you don’t deny being a Big Gov boy. Hell, we all knew it anyway.

Would it do any good if I did? Actually I watch you babble on about big government and I just have to laugh. Your hero Jeff Davis road herd over a government far larger and more intrusive than anything Lincoln advocated. So when it comes to big government supporters you really should be looking in the mirror. It’s good that you’re finally dropping the hypocrisy and denial act and owning up to what you really are: a labor union loving, big government loving, lincoln loving, obama loving piece of crap yankee from that piece of crap city, Chicago.

You have to appreciate the irony in that statement because when it comes to hypocrisy, denial, and crap you are the all time champ. That's always been the cowboy way.

Now why don’t you float on back to DU or one of your Sarah Palin bashing threads and quit trying to hijack mine.

Someone's got to dispute the Southron bullshit.

44 posted on 02/05/2010 3:28:30 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway

So I take it you’re a big supporter of Kirk Lyons and the current SCV leadership.


45 posted on 02/05/2010 5:08:14 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Non-Sequitur
“Someone’s got to dispute the Southron bullshit.”

Piss Proud, ain't ja

Now take your High-falutin,Damyankee,City slickin’, South hating ass over to Democratic Underground where it belongs.

46 posted on 02/05/2010 5:54:42 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: Idabilly
Now take your High-falutin,Damyankee,City slickin’, South hating ass over to Democratic Underground where it belongs.

And once again we see where anyone who hasn't swallowed the confederate kool-aid by the gallon just has to be a liberal. Now who's piss-proud?

47 posted on 02/06/2010 5:35:48 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Someone's got to dispute the Southron bullshit.

And the Recognition of Bullshit Award goes to..............NON-SENSICAL!!!!

Accepting the award for non-sensical, who couldn't be here due to a previous commitment to appear at the annual NAMBLA conference, is his longtime and dear friend, Barney Frank! clapclapclapclapclapclap...........

48 posted on 02/06/2010 5:59:48 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
So I take it you’re a big supporter of Kirk Lyons and the current SCV leadership.

So I take it that you're still hanging out at DU and posting 'progressive' hit pieces on all of us right wing 'extremists'.

49 posted on 02/06/2010 6:02:18 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway
And the Recognition of Bullshit Award goes to..............NON-SENSICAL!!!!

Thank you...thank you....I appreciate the honor you've done by naming me to this prestigious award. However, modesty forces me to confess that everything I know about spreading bullshit I learned from someone who is far more accomplished at that than I am. Ladies and gentlemen, I think this award really goes to..........CLOWNBOYWAY!!!! Let's give him a big round of applause, when it comes to spouting BS the man has been a mentor to oh so many people....

You know, I first posted a respectful correction to NavVet's false comments on Lee and Grant. You and Idabilly went negative from the beginning. So please save us your phony baloney complaints about my hijacking your Lost Cause thread.

50 posted on 02/06/2010 6:07:12 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Idabilly; starlifter

Because he does not have the intellectual prowess to counter the reasons why this would be a good thing, so like liberals, simpletons and dictators he wants to suppress such thoughts.


51 posted on 02/06/2010 6:17:39 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


52 posted on 02/06/2010 6:31:39 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Non-Sequitur; cowboyway

Lost in this discussion is the premise from the article posted above: America faces a crossroads very similar to those prior to Fort Sumter. More government, less nationalism, maybe socialism, which way do we go?

A simple and accurate statement followed by a logical question.

“The South lost their rebellion. Deal with it”

Indeed. That’s what we are doing now, dealing with the ramifications of having lost the war and federalism, the core of the Confederacy’s government and, once upon a time, the United States. What the southern states tried to get away from was a future susceptible to total federal government dominance and presidential dictators — exactly where we are today, compliments of Abraham Lincoln.

The northern victory on the battlefield — though it took pathetically long considering the odds, and thus, certainly nothing to brag about — has brought us to brink of defeat in terms of self governance and freedom.

Your “victory” is a cold dish indeed. And yet you eat it gleefully and gratefully. It appears that Aristotle was right, there are some people who really do want to be taken care of by the government from the cradle to the grave. Aristotle called them “natural slaves.”

Ironic, isn’t it, that you unwittingly support that which you hate about the South, only under the guise of socialism.


53 posted on 02/06/2010 6:59:45 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Lost in this discussion is the premise from the article posted above: America faces a crossroads very similar to those prior to Fort Sumter. More government, less nationalism, maybe socialism, which way do we go?

No, the crossroad then was expansion of slavery or not. Whether the government had the right to establish laws in the territories as the Constitution said or not. Whether states rights extended to all states or just the Southern states. There is no similarity between the two, unless you want to say it was a choice between big government under Lincoln vs. bigger, more intrusive government under Davis.

Yes, America is at a crossroads. We do have to choose which path we will take, lower spending or higher spending. Smaller government or more government. Global expansion or domestic priorities. Today's hyper-partisan Washington and the boobs we elect to Congress - on both sides of the aisle - seem unwilling to tackle the issues that need to be tackled and make the hard decisions. There is absolutely no doubt about that. But dusting off the Lost Cause and pretending that it was actually something that it wasn't is ridiculous. The South didn't rebel against the government in Washington, it WAS the government in Washington. For decades prior to the rebellion the South had held a disproportionate level of influence at all levels in D.C. from the number of residents in the White House to the number of clerks in the cabinet departments. If government had grown out of control in 1860 it was because the Southern leadership had let it. So the idea that the rebels were motivated by fear of Washington control is ridiculous in the extreme.

If this nation is to fall and split into two or more countries, and I pray that it does not, then looking to the socialists in 1863 Richmond as an example is absolutely the wrong thing to do. All you need do is look about 85 years earlier than that for all the examples that you need. John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and James Monroe should be our guides, not Jefferson Davis, Alexander Stephens, Robert Lee or Thomas Jackson.

The South lost. For that I am eternally grateful. Their cause was wrong and their premise was flawed from the beginning. They did not flee big government, they left for the right to keep their fellow humans in bondage. And all the Southron revisionism and papering over the facts that you care to produce will not change that. Their cause was not the cause of today. Southern leaders in Congress today are the problem rather than the solution. Direction and inspiration for any future conflict will not come from the memories of the Southern rebellion but from respect and guidance from the American rebellion.

54 posted on 02/06/2010 7:38:32 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lee'sGhost
Because he does not have the intellectual prowess to counter the reasons why this would be a good thing, so like liberals, simpletons and dictators he wants to suppress such thoughts.

ROTFLMAO!!!!! And you do?????

55 posted on 02/06/2010 7:39:13 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway

Wrong again. You’re nothing if not consistent. Care to answer the question?


56 posted on 02/06/2010 8:01:51 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Answering questions is not the cowboy way. Ducking them and attempted insults are.


57 posted on 02/06/2010 8:03:43 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Attempted insults” is right. Most of the Lost Causers seem to occupy a level of wit that makes Larry the Cable Guy sound like part of the Algonquin Round Table.


58 posted on 02/06/2010 9:47:43 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

You realize that now you have to explain to them what the Algonquin Round Table was? Otherwise they’re going to assume you’re talking about King Arthur and they’ll be going, “What the f*ck?”


59 posted on 02/06/2010 10:24:19 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Actually I’m talking about the Round Table Pizza in Algonquin, Illinois. It’s the wittiest pizza joint in the northwest suburbs.


60 posted on 02/06/2010 11:56:56 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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