Posted on 02/05/2010 4:40:59 AM PST by loungeSerf
A Slovenian who saved his three dogs from being put down for attacking humans was himself mauled to death by them, police said Wednesday.
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Proof that God has a sense of humor!
That’s gratitude for ya.
Looks like Mark Twain was wrong.
Interesting. I did not know that dogs “did” irony.
Where is Chet99 and his cheerleaders to demand the “final solution” for all Bull Mastiffs (and the hundreds/thousands of other large, powerful breeds)?
If a Pitbull can kill you, a Bull Mastiff can bite your head clean off. Better get that legislation started.
Dogs rarely “just snap.” There is usually a long history of abuse leading up to the attack. Dogs are rarely psychotic, and most want nothing more than to be friends.
I don't see why. The owner made the decision to fight to keep his dogs. It was his choice. One can't protect everyone from their own bad choices.
Keep this in mind the next time you hear someone blubbering about having to put their dog down. Dogs are animals, not people. Way too many people forget that, apparently including this guy.
I don't know what a Bull Mastiffs temperament is supposed to be but these three weren't nice doggies.
“I looked up a Bull Mastiff. It’s a very large dog.”
Yes they are. Two things this doctor should have remembered as a dog owner.
1) If you own potentially dangerous dogs, you’d better understand dog training and dog psychology. In particular, you’d better make sure you’re the pack leader.
2) More than one dog in a household is inherently more risky, as you’ll likely see pack behavior. Note how many recent serious attacks have involved several dogs.
Yeah...and 3 years ago, they were owned by the same person. Which supports my statement, that there was most likely abuse going on.
“A Look Back
The Bullmastiffs known history in England begins around 1860, when they were developed to keep large estates and game preserves free of poachers. Gameskeepers needed a dog that could track quietly, cover short distances quickly and pin and hold poachers without mauling them. The foundation breeding was 60% Mastiff and 40% Bulldog; breeders were hoping to create a dog faster and more aggressive than the Mastiff, yet bigger than and not as ferocious as the Bulldog.”
Well, it’s a man hunter. However, much like firearm designers never created a firearm that had the barrel do a 180 and point at your forehead(ignoring the physics of it), the people who created/bred Bull Mastiffs didn’t envision a dog that randomly killed its owner. There isn’t much point in guarding the Lord’s estate if the Lord was mauled by the hounds 3 months back. So it is what it is...a large, powerful animal, requiring care and dedication to own.
There may have been no abuse but simply the owner didn’t know how to take command of them. They are animals. If the lead dog didn’t respect their owner, he’s kibble. The other dogs will follow what the lead dog does.
With cats, though, it seems to be common. I've had a couple of cats that were borderline crazy, but my wife had a cat that was as psycho as it gets. This thing was the most ill tempered critter I've ever been around (and I grew up on a farm with a lot of ornery critters). It would growl at you if you just walked by it. It's eyes would dilate and contract rapidly when it got riled. It was possessed. She had to have it's teeth filed and claws removed so that it wouldn't hurt anyone. This was by far the fastest house cat I've ever seen, too. It like to attack your knees for no apparent reason and would do strafing runs on you when it was riled. It was also common for it to come blasting by and take food right out of your hand. Two different vets recommended that it be put down. Both agreed that it just wasn't wired right.
That’s ironic isn’t it?
The owner should be the lead dog (pack leader).
38 special...meet cat!!!
I must be slow today (today?).
I’m not catching the oblique statement - so can you help us Clemens-impaired types out and identify the Twain quote to which you are referring?
Thanks!
DOP(Dogs of peace) alert?
Yes and he wasn't. He let the 3 form their own pack. Doesn't a pack kill the weakest member? Sounds like that was the owner.
Touche!!!
My next door neighbors have 2 of these dogs. 200 pounds but they are gentle, slow moving dogs, don’t live very long 8 years max.
Yes, they’re animals. They still operate according to rules. Their rules, but rules regardless.
The pack leader doesn’t randomly kill pack members. If he did, he would find himself in a single dog pack very soon.
A dog that doesn’t think you’re the leader won’t necessarily kill you, he will attempt to dominate you. If you attempt to fight with him, then he might carry if further. And as soon as you submit, he will break off his act. He won’t rip your head off. These are the rules of the pack. Without them, there would be no pack, there would just be a big group of dogs fighting and humping.
You’ll look hard and long to find a dog that will KILL its loving, gentle master, for no reason other than wanting to be alpha. It doesn’t work that way in the pack. Two dogs don’t tie their paws together and knife fight...animals know it is far safer to put on a display and gain dominance that way than going to the lengths of a real fight. Real fights end up with real wounds...real wounds can kill you real quick in the natural world. Animals know this, and instinctively avoid fighting. They also don’t kill pack members, even ones lower than them, for no reason. Try keeping order in a pack that is randomly murdered by its leader...good luck with that.
I would never have 3 dogs that large unless I knew how to handle them.
They sound like mastiffs, not bull mastiffs. It would be very rare for a bull mastiff to get to 200 lbs.
I have mastiffs and they are very gentle, and slow moving lazy dogs.
Bull mastiffs are lighter, faster, and much more aggressive.
Remember too that these dogs spent 4 years away from the owner. There was no longer a relationship there.
They are English Mastiffs, now that I think about it.
“If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.”
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.
I always liked that quote as it rings true. Too bad it did not prove to be the case in this instance but I suppose there are exceptions to everything.
I always liked that quote as it rings true. Too bad it did not prove to be the case in this instance but I suppose there are exceptions to everything.
The comments about three dogs being a pack could be it.
Yes, that is what I own.
The correct AKC name is Mastiff. However, a lot of people refer to them as English Mastiffs.
They just got a new puppy, so cute.
I had one of those psychotic dogs. Got her when she was around 4mo. old. 3 vets and 4 behaviorists all agreed she had wires crossed. She was eventually put down because she thought biting people was the appropriate greeting. No amount of training was able to change that. It is rare, but it does happen.
I seem to be seeing more of these karma stories lately.
I just read Cesar's Way (the Dog Whisperer book) and one of the most annoying things was his insistence on the potential to rehabilitate any dog. There are so many homeless dogs out there, how much effort is it worth to try to rehab an aggressor?
Every dog trainer I know can’t stand the Dog Whisperer.
In this case he was the leader.
He led them to HELL!!
Muwhahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Signs of the upcoming Apocalypse..............
Keep this in mind the next time you hear someone blubbering about having to put their dog down. Dogs are animals, not people.
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I had to put all 3 of my dogs down in 2007. 2 from old age, 1 from cancer at 5 y/o. I shouldn’t be upset by that at all?
I blubbered a good bit that year, and not in the slightest bit embarrassed to say so. Doesn’t mean I’ve forgotten the difference between dogs and people, though. That’s just silly.
Show of hands, dog lovers, how many of you have forgotten that dogs are animals, not people?
That is a true statement........
I only had to put one dog down that didn't affect me emotionally...
LOL! How right you are. My neighbors have a burglar alarm and I am on their call list to respond when their alarm goes off. The alarm company has called me a couple of times and I always get my camera. I want to snap a picture of the burglars face when he comes screaming out of the house. I don’t think they need a burglar alarm.
Sad and not too smart. RIP.
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