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NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
http://www.whale.to/b/allen_b1.html ^ | Gary Allen

Posted on 02/05/2010 9:37:06 PM PST by Bronzy

Around 2003 or 2004, I picked up this book at a second hand store. Once I read it, my political outlook seemed to change. I guess you could say that I felt that it didn't matter how I voted. This book is available to read on line. It is worth a read. I still get excited when my side wins but...???


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Hey, seems the weekend is a good time to ponder the wisdom of 1970's conservatives.
1 posted on 02/05/2010 9:37:07 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: StarFan

bookmark


2 posted on 02/05/2010 9:42:26 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Bronzy

Some may call me a kook, but this book makes the ascendance of an unknown foreigner to the Oval Office explainable.
‘You will know the tree by it’s fruits” is, I believe, a biblical admonishment.


3 posted on 02/05/2010 9:43:46 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: StarFan

Great. Do read the book. It is free on line. It is a very quick read for thinking folks.


4 posted on 02/05/2010 9:51:31 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy
Okay, a direct link for those who wish to see it...

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY





[ ... And I don't know a thing about this book or its author, so this is in no way an endorsement or anything like that. I just don't know a darned thing about it... I'm just doing some convenient linking for folks... that's all... :-) ... ]

5 posted on 02/05/2010 9:57:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Actually, I think my posted link is the best but thanks. Bronzy
http://www.whale.to/b/allen_b1.html ^
6 posted on 02/05/2010 10:04:00 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Star Traveler

Okay, we have the same link. Hey, you will know about the book it you read it. I read it and it causes one to pause when thinking politics.


7 posted on 02/05/2010 10:07:42 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy

Couple this read with the Branton Files and it’s very easy to become convinced everything is a Satanic conspiracy.

IMHO, they do exist, but most of those involved only know a portion of which they are involved and then proceed to do what is good in their own eyes.

Of course there also exists a very real evil side of things, playing saints against those who are doing good in their own eyes in a deceptive ploy to be as evil as is imaginable.


8 posted on 02/05/2010 10:09:01 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Bronzy

I’ve reading some paragraphs and I agree on most of them.

Socialism, for instance, was a dead movement in the 1870’s, predicting the collapse of a Capitalism that always rose up again. This changed when Chancellor Bismarck and the German aristocracy needed to control the industrial workers in the new Germany they have created.

The Russian revolution was fostered at least by those same German aristocrats in order to win the war in the eastern front...


9 posted on 02/05/2010 10:10:23 PM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: Cvengr

Satanic conspiracy??? I never read “Satanic” into the book.


10 posted on 02/05/2010 10:10:48 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy

Run a google search on the Illuminati.


11 posted on 02/05/2010 10:11:57 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Bronzy; All
If you can find them, also read “None Dare Call it Treason”, "None Dare Call it Treason...25 Years Later", and “None Dare Call it Education” by John A. Stormer. His "None Dare Call it" theme was the inspiration for Allan and Abraham's subsequent work that you are now reading.

The Left went nuts when these books were published, primarily because the liberal publishing houses in Manhattan put the kibosh on Stormer, and the only people whom he could find that were willing to publish and distribute his works was the John Birch Society. They were, of course, no kinder to Allen and Abraham.

The Left was effective in tainting him by association with the Birchers in the minds of an otherwise un/misinformed public (I believe that he only joined the Birchers after they became the only ones who would help him).

His message is as perfectly valid now as it was then, regardless of who published his book, and given the current state of political/cultural/social affairs in America, it was outright prescient.

In my opinion, we are today really only beginning to taste the bitter fruits of over 50 years of Communist infiltration into every aspect of our society, a future he foresaw from the outset. We'll be lucky to hold out another 10 years.

12 posted on 02/05/2010 10:16:24 PM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: J Aguilar
Socialism is not dead now. I see the book written in 1970 warning us of today. Here we are answering Socialism knocking at our door.
13 posted on 02/05/2010 10:16:36 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Star Traveler

It’s author is, if he is still living, is a devoted Baptist pastor in the St. Louis area. It’s well worth the read.


14 posted on 02/05/2010 10:22:01 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: Bronzy
AFAIK, Marx developed his scientific theory on the inevitable collapse of Capitalism from the events of 1848. In 1870 the public was simply tired that his prediction has never become true. Capitalism was healthy and expanding.

Then, in the 1870's (19th century), Bismarck and the German aristocracy revived such ideology in order to keep under control the new industrial workers class.

Socialism has been ever since the best way to control industrial workers in Continental Europe.
15 posted on 02/05/2010 10:22:22 PM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: Bronzy
Just scanning it... it's about the Federal Reserve, big bankers/money men (in the world controlling things) the Bilderburgers, the Council on Foreign Relations... all those guys pulling puppet strings... etc. etc. and etc...

It's all stuff that we've heard many times before, whether true or not...

One quote here...

Many people cannot refrain from rationalizing. After reading this book, some will bemoan the fact that the situation is hopeless. These will be many of the same people who, before reading this book, really did not believe the problems facing us were serious. Some people wake up and give up in the same week. This is, of course, just exactly what the Insiders want you to do.

The conspiracy can be defeated. The insiders are not omnipotent. It is true that they control important parts of the federal government, high finance and the mass media. But they do not control everything, or the vise would already have been closed. We might say the conspiracy controls everything but you. You are their Achilles heel if you are willing to fight. There is an old cliche in sports that quitters never win and winners never quit. We need a million Americans who are not quitters, but, moreover, who have the will to win!

Now, the true fact of the matter is that no matter what the CFR people think, the Bilderburgers, the Illuminati, the Federal Reserve and the big bankers think -- in that they may be pulling the strings... in actuality, it's the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is pulling the puppet strings and He's making all these characters "dance their little dance" -- in order to bring about this one-world government that the Bible says that Satan will gain complete control over -- in order for God to bring His judgement upon the world.

It's going to happen, basically because God has ordained it to happen (not these guys) and He's doing it in order to judge the world and to show Himself the Supreme Ruler of all mankind...

And furthemore, it's the Messiah of Israel who will set up the one-world government, that will be under His control, over all the nations of the world, including the United States --l and there will be no dissent from it, no matter who you are...

That's what's coming and it's coming because the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has ordained it to be...

Just get ready for it, because it's right around the corner... now... :-)

16 posted on 02/05/2010 10:24:19 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Bronzy; Cvengr
You were saying ...

Satanic conspiracy??? I never read “Satanic” into the book.

It might not be in the book and if not -- that's a serious failing of the book... sorry to tell you... :-)

17 posted on 02/05/2010 10:26:07 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: John Leland 1789
You were saying ...

It’s author is, if he is still living, is a devoted Baptist pastor in the St. Louis area. It’s well worth the read.

I will...

And with him being a Baptish pastor, it's evident that he should know what the Bible says about the coming one-world government and who is really in control of things in this world...

I'll take a look at what he said... thanks... :-)

18 posted on 02/05/2010 10:27:59 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I don’t know if it is God or Satan, but I know these people just don’t like to be pointed out.


19 posted on 02/05/2010 10:28:04 PM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: conservativeharleyguy
Yes, I know what you are saying. I don't think “Illuminati” when I read something from 1970 and see that much of it has happened. It simply takes one time to pause and reflect.
20 posted on 02/05/2010 10:30:21 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: J Aguilar
You were saying ...

I don’t know if it is God or Satan, but I know these people just don’t like to be pointed out.

They're puppets... the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the only true authority in this universe, no one else...

Satan acts only as allowed and permitted by God. Satan knows his time is coming and what God has permitted him to do, and he's getting ready for it right now... using whomever he can of these "dimwits" that others refer to as the power brokers, but are really being pulled around through the nose by Satan and his minions... :-)

21 posted on 02/05/2010 10:34:38 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Guess I am too dumb to know why you are “sorry to tell me”/. Socialism is taking over our country and they knew it in 1970’s and you are saying that they are Satanic conspiracy types?
22 posted on 02/05/2010 10:35:10 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Star Traveler

And if interested in some good history, another man near there is Jemes Beller, author of America In Crimson Red.

www.21tnt.com


23 posted on 02/05/2010 10:36:52 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: Star Traveler

Also see

www.baptistchristianworldview.com


24 posted on 02/05/2010 10:39:56 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: Bronzy
You were saying ...

Guess I am too dumb to know why you are “sorry to tell me”/. Socialism is taking over our country and they knew it in 1970’s and you are saying that they are Satanic conspiracy types?

Well, the people who knew what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob says in His true and inerrant and infallible Word -- centuries ago -- knew even before there was even a "United States" that there was coming a "one-world goverment" under the control of Satan (that's the Satanic conspiracy -- something that is run by Satan himself, not by people who join some kind of "Satanic cult"... doncha know).

These guys are mostly too stupid to know who is really pulling the strings on them (which is Satan himself).

And people who knew the Bible and what it said many many centuries ago, knew this before we ever formed this country in the first place.

This is something that is way beyond anything to do with the United States -- it has to do with the plan of salvation for the world and for mankind, and as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is bringing it about, right now...

25 posted on 02/05/2010 10:41:24 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I repeat, I don’t know whether it’s God or Satan, but in Continental Europe associated persons to those guys have already blown up two train stations simply for power and greed, and left my country, Spain, nearing a State default in just six years.

It is not about God or Satan, it is about being able to take a train or to recover your savings.


26 posted on 02/05/2010 10:41:38 PM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: Bronzy

Actually, they knew it a century ago, but Satanism has been around along time.


27 posted on 02/05/2010 10:41:43 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: John Leland 1789

Okay on both of those... I might not get to it until a bit later this weekend... but thank you... :-)


28 posted on 02/05/2010 10:42:36 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I agree and concur.

I’ve always found it interesting how Christ addressed the ‘builders’, when they bragged about the temple they had built.


29 posted on 02/05/2010 10:44:05 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: J Aguilar
You were saying ...

It is not about God or Satan, it is about being able to take a train or to recover your savings.

It might be "just that" in terms of those with a very limited perspective on the matter and what is really going on in the world.

But, the real picture is that it's solely and only about the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (according to what the Bible tells us) and expressly about what Satan has been allowed to do and set up (that which is coming, in terms of the one-world government)....

All these others that you are talking about are simply "bit-players" in the larger picture that I'm talking about with God in control of all things, and Satan being allowed to set up the coming one-world government -- in order that God may judge the whole world and -- then -- bring in His one-world government to take over all things on this earth -- and to rule all nations under His control.

That's the bigger picture, not these guys who are merely "bit-players"...

30 posted on 02/05/2010 10:47:33 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

My limited perspective is based on evidence.


31 posted on 02/05/2010 10:54:25 PM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: J Aguilar
You were saying ...

My limited perspective is based on evidence.

I realize that this is what a lot of people depend upon... but Christians depend on something in additon to that, which supplements the evidence, and provides a reason and rationale for that evidence -- and that's the "revealed, inerrant and infallible Word of God"...

When you've got something like that, from the Creator of the Universe... it's hard to dismiss it, unless one simply does not want to take the Word of God into consideration at all... :-)

32 posted on 02/05/2010 10:57:31 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Well, AFAIK this is not a religious book.

IMHO it is a lack of respect to talk about revealed truth when someone, in order to write such a book, had to carry out an investigation for evidence.


33 posted on 02/05/2010 11:03:14 PM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: J Aguilar
You were saying ...

Well, AFAIK this is not a religious book.

No, it's not -- it's a subset of knowledge for things that are going on in the world, at least as far as it's accurate in describing dates, facts, people, events and things like this.

It will never been comprehensive, though, in its understanding (religious book or not) -- because the things in this world, even though they can be described in terms of facts and details and events and people and so on (like this) -- if the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is left out of the understanding of what is going on in the world's history -- one has a limited and distorted and incomplete view of what is happening.


IMHO it is a lack of respect to talk about revealed truth when someone, in order to write such a book, had to carry out an investigation for evidence.

Not at all... (unless you just want to persist in that type of thinking, "just because"... :-) ...).

It's fine if someone wants to document facts and figures and people and associations and so on. There's nothing wrong with that. But, it's like I was saying above... if one is persuaded to believe that these things that are presented are all there is to the "story" and that from this information that there is nothing else outside of this -- which we are to know -- which controls all these things -- then if you have that kind of viewpoint -- you have a very misleading and limited viewpoint and it will lead one to wrong conclusions -- conclusions that leave out the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and conclusions that say that He has nothing at all to do and say about it (much less control these things) -- or even that He doesn't even exist at all, in the first place, to even exert any control over these things...

If there is any disrespect going on, it would be a supreme disrespect of the Creator of the Universe, to leave Him out of the equation of what is going on in this world, in all these things which are described in this book...

34 posted on 02/05/2010 11:18:10 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Bronzy

If people start reading older books then they will understand why some of us scoff at the “boomer”, “1960s” stuff, when you realize that conservatives were getting totally erased in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s, then you realize the teens of the sixties meant nothing in the real history of how America got to where it is.


35 posted on 02/05/2010 11:45:57 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: Star Traveler
I read this book just before Christmas, and in discussing it with people I respect, the question in my mind was; Why would these wealthy people set in place this multi-generational scheme in the first place? It was obvious to them that their plan would not bare fruit during their lifetimes, so why invest so much time, money, intellect, and effort? If it were me, I'd just go to the beach and enjoy the fruits of my labor.

Bringing Satan into the equation does help to dispel that argument though. However, it does bring into doubt whether any effort on our part will have any chance to defeat the plan as it stands today. As you say, God is a tough adversary. So do we go with the flow and wait through the Tribulation for the Second Coming?

36 posted on 02/05/2010 11:50:04 PM PST by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: Bronzy

I’ve had a copy of this book for over 30 years, but I have never read it. Going to have to dust it off...


37 posted on 02/06/2010 12:00:53 AM PST by kik5150
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To: J Edgar

You should read “None Dare Call it Treason” by Stormer
It was written long before and is very eye opening.


38 posted on 02/06/2010 12:01:39 AM PST by Lera
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To: Lera

I have read most of it. A good followup is “The Franklin Coverup” by John DeCamp. “Eye-opening” barely scratches the surfaces!


39 posted on 02/06/2010 12:07:47 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: Cvengr

“read with the Branton Files”
Could you elaborate enough so that the source is more identifiable?
A closely related book that I recommend is “The Franklin Coverup” by John DeCamp.


40 posted on 02/06/2010 12:12:51 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: Wingy
Their fruits are ripe for the picking in the first generation. The more they control, the safer is their position:

The Rothschilds Exposed 1/3
41 posted on 02/06/2010 12:13:55 AM PST by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: Bronzy

Worth checking out: “The Road Ahead; America’s Creeping Revolution”


42 posted on 02/06/2010 12:15:45 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference.)
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To: Wingy

“Bringing Satan into the equation does help to dispel that argument though. However, it does bring into doubt whether any effort on our part will have any chance to defeat the plan as it stands today. As you say, God is a tough adversary. So do we go with the flow and wait through the Tribulation for the Second Coming? “


to merely go with the flow and wait it out is tentamount to giving tacit approval. Those who serve as “speed bumps” in the antichrist’s roadway will not be rewarded in this course of things, but when Christ DOES return.

For the sake honoring Christ, and for those who still need to hear and heed truth, it is vital that enter into the fray, but realizing that it is a spiritual warfare (Ephesians 6), one involving principalities and powers above our heads in an unseen realm (Daniel 2, 9; etc.)

We are told to OCCUPY till Christ comes (Luke 19:13), not roll over and simply allow the enemy to charge, attack and take the hill. We are to “Hold the Fort,” as the spiritual song goes. Christ told the church at Thyatira, “ . . . that which ye have already, HOLD FAST TILL I COME . . .” (REV. 2:25). Then immediately He told the church at Sardis, “BE WATCHFUL AND STRENGTHEN THE THINGS WHICH REMAIN” (Rev. 3:2)

OCCUPY!
HOLD FAST TILL I COME!
BE WATCHFUL AND STRENGTHEN THE THINGS WHICH REMAIN!

Here are our orders from our Cammander in this spiritual warfare.

I hope this is just some encouragement.


43 posted on 02/06/2010 12:30:35 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: Wingy

So do we go with the flow and wait through the Tribulation for the Second Coming?

******************************

Because Revelation says that the the Saints are overcome by the beast. It does not say they “cut a deal” with the beast.


44 posted on 02/06/2010 12:32:47 AM PST by ROTB (Repeal to 1789, for the children. The moslems, however, still support him b/c he’s pro-terror.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Great Suggestion! I’ve added a link to the nifty archive.org online version.
http://www.archive.org/details/TheRoadAheadAmericasCreepingRevolution

I’m afraid I’ll be up all night reading this :)


45 posted on 02/06/2010 1:21:23 AM PST by champie
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To: Bronzy

Thanks Bronzy. Like yourself and so many others, my perspective has also changed dramatically.

R. Buckminster Fuller said “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

I’m anxious to get to this lecture series from 1975..
http://www.bfi.org/our_programs/who_is_buckminster_fuller/online_resources/everything_i_know


46 posted on 02/06/2010 1:32:10 AM PST by champie
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To: champie; happinesswithoutpeace
Thanks. I will look at your suggested reads.
47 posted on 02/06/2010 6:17:31 AM PST by Bronzy
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To: J Aguilar
Now, let's take a look at George Soros.
48 posted on 02/06/2010 6:21:24 AM PST by Bronzy
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To: conservativeharleyguy

Thanks for the suggestions. Here is an excerpt from the book:

“Richard Nixon has said of the Republican Party: “We’ve got to have a tent everyone can get into.” The Democrats have obviously believed that for a long time.

But a Party must be based on principles or it has no justification for existence. Bringing Socialists into the Republican Party theoretically may broaden the base, but, in reality, serves only to disfranchise those who believe in a Constitutional Republic and the free enterprise system.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It seems we have come full circle and are trying to rid the Republican party of the Socialists.


49 posted on 02/06/2010 6:49:39 AM PST by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy
Relax. Like the enigmatic character Jacob said on Lost: “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that . . . just progress.”
50 posted on 02/06/2010 9:07:30 AM PST by Oratam
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