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Ancient Greenland gene map has a surprise
Yahoo News ^ | 2/11/10 | y Maggie Fox,

Posted on 02/11/2010 8:24:26 AM PST by FredJake



WASHINGTON (Reuters) –

Scientists have sequenced the DNA from four frozen hairs of a Greenlander who died 4,000 years ago in a study they say takes genetic technology into several new realms.

Surprisingly, the long-dead man appears to have originated in Siberia and is unrelated to modern Greenlanders, Morten Rasmussen of the University of Copenhagen and colleagues found.

"This provides evidence for a migration from Siberia into the New World some 5,500 years ago, independent of that giving rise to the modern Native Americans and Inuit," the researchers wrote in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.

Not only can the findings help transform the study of archeology, but they can help answer questions about the origins of modern populations and disease, they said.

"Such studies have the potential to reconstruct not only our genetic and geographical origins, but also what our ancestors looked like," David Lambert and Leon Huynen of Griffith University in Queensland, Australia, wrote in a commentary.

The DNA gives strong hints about the man, nicknamed Inuk. "Brown eyes, brown skin, he had shovel-form front teeth," Eske Willerslev, who oversaw the study, told a telephone briefing. Such teeth are characteristic of East Asian and Native American populations.

He had the genes for early hair loss, too. "Because we found quite a lot of hair from this guy, we presume he actually died quite young," Willerslev said.

The man lived among the Saqqaq people, the earliest known culture in southern Greenland that lasted from around 2500 BC until about 800 BC.

Scientists have disagreed on who these people were -- whether they descended from the peoples who crossed the Bering Strait

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: dna; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; greenland; helixmakemineadouble; history; humans; immigration; nativeamericans; notbreakingnews; siberia; whoisyodaddy; whoisyourdaddy; whosyodaddy

1 posted on 02/11/2010 8:24:26 AM PST by FredJake
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To: Alex Murphy; JesusBmyGod; Whenifhow; rom; Hanna548; DvdMom; leftyontheright; FrdmLvr; jblann1; ...
Ancient man Ping!

Very interesting DNA story about 4000 year old human that they did a gentic code break down on.

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2 posted on 02/11/2010 8:27:13 AM PST by OneVike
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To: FredJake

So you can be called a “native” if you immigrated here 5,000 years ago?


3 posted on 02/11/2010 8:27:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("like it or not, we have to have a financial system that is healthy and functioning" Obama 2/4/2010)
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To: FredJake

He looks like he was really into Death Metal.


4 posted on 02/11/2010 8:28:36 AM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

A civil blam.


5 posted on 02/11/2010 8:29:13 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: FredJake

It appears ancient people were more mobile than we thought.


6 posted on 02/11/2010 8:29:37 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: a fool in paradise
So you can be called a “native” if you immigrated here 5,000 years ago?

Looks like that. I am guessing the cut off to being a native is about 1492.

Anyone after is a foreign invader. Unless you are of a minority status.

Of course once the majority becomes a minority then the rules will change I am sure.
7 posted on 02/11/2010 8:30:59 AM PST by OneVike
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To: FredJake
Ancient Greenland gene map has a surprise

Ancient Greenland was part of Atzlan?
8 posted on 02/11/2010 8:31:09 AM PST by aruanan
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To: FredJake

A genome map wasn’t all he needed....He apparently had the gene for getting lost...thats a heckuva trip from Siberia to Greenland.


9 posted on 02/11/2010 8:31:50 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09! WTFU!)
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To: FredJake

Yet another piece of evidence that suggests the Arctic Ocean has been ice-free in the past.

Marco Polo wrote that he sailed to a spot on the ocean around 1200AD where he saw “the pole star in the south”. Since he also used a crude magnetic compass, and assuming* that magnetic north at that time was somewhere near its current position, that means that he sailed an ice-free Arctic Ocean almost to Greenland. This is quite possible, in my view, since Earth’s temperature then was several degrees warmer than current “high” temperatures.

*admittedly a somewhat shaky assumption


10 posted on 02/11/2010 8:34:28 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Adder
He apparently had the gene for getting lost...

His wife kept begging him to pull over and ask for directions, but noooooooo.......

11 posted on 02/11/2010 8:38:12 AM PST by Free State Four
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To: FredJake; SunkenCiv; bogusname; Tennessee Nana; JoeProBono; TigerLikesRooster; Quix; BGHater; ...

Thanks. Ping.


12 posted on 02/11/2010 8:38:32 AM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: FredJake

It’s not too surprising that North America has had more than one group migrate in from outside of NA. This process continues today.


13 posted on 02/11/2010 8:41:47 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Adder

According to Genesis 10:25, the trip might have been a lot easier before the continents were divided.


14 posted on 02/11/2010 8:43:13 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: FredJake
Green genes?


15 posted on 02/11/2010 8:45:54 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: AFPhys
You were saying ...

Yet another piece of evidence that suggests the Arctic Ocean has been ice-free in the past.

Yes indeed... and we would not have had the rumors of the famed "Northwest Passage" either, unless it was warmer and people were able to get through... :-)

16 posted on 02/11/2010 8:48:45 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Joya

Yes..., very interesting...


17 posted on 02/11/2010 8:49:23 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’d love to know how this guy got to Greenland.


18 posted on 02/11/2010 8:58:32 AM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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To: Vigilanteman
According to Genesis 10:25, the trip might have been a lot easier before the continents were divided.

Gondwana started breaking up in the mid-Jurassic, about 167 million years ago. That's a wee bit early for the gent we're speaking of from 2,000 BCE.

19 posted on 02/11/2010 9:02:46 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: FredJake

ummm... greenland is in the new world??


20 posted on 02/11/2010 9:03:09 AM PST by sten
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To: a fool in paradise

Was there a vault copy of a birth certificate?


21 posted on 02/11/2010 9:13:24 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Vigilanteman
Bingo - or before they drifted all that far apart - especially up north - much of the sailing form Europe to Greenland and N. A., even 1000-500 years ago, was by hopping from one land mass to the other - which are not that far apart even today.

And I still say that they could have, tens of thousands of years ago, just as easily have gone FROM NA up and over TO Europe/Asia.

We forget that the horse and the camel, for two examples, originated in NA. So how did they end up across the ocean, where most of us think they are ‘from”?

22 posted on 02/11/2010 9:17:54 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7

I have often wondered how it is that N. American fauna prior to the arrival of humans, was almost exactly like that of the African velt—rhinos, elephants, crocs, lions, cheetah, wild donkeys, horses, etc., when according to theory, S. America separated from that continent later than N. America, and S. America had a vastly different fauna.


23 posted on 02/11/2010 9:29:47 AM PST by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: GL of Sector 2814; maine-iac7
Good points, both of you.

FWIW, I count myself neither in the Fundy camp (who are just SURE the world can't be much more than 12,000 years old; 6,000 years to create; 6,000 years of recorded human history), nor do I count myself in the scientific camp, who are equally sure that God or any form of Intelligent Design had nothing to do with creating the earth.

Carbon 14 dating, while provable and scientifically sound, for instance, when compared with objects of known antiquity, cannot be proven when we move from thousands and tens of thousands of year measurements into the hundreds of thousands and millions of year measurements.

24 posted on 02/11/2010 9:35:29 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: FredJake

Probably just an isolated incident, he went off course. And they called him “Wrong Way Cro-Magnon!”


25 posted on 02/11/2010 9:35:50 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: OneVike

Thanks for the ping!


26 posted on 02/11/2010 9:49:23 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
"...he went off course. And they called him “Wrong Way Cro-Magnon!”

You made my morning, thanks.

27 posted on 02/11/2010 9:54:34 AM PST by norton
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To: brytlea
It appears ancient people were more mobile than we thought.

CAN YOU HAIR ME NOW?

28 posted on 02/11/2010 10:22:34 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: attiladhun2

Migration across the Bering land bridge is evident from fossil finds. Likewise, the rise of the Panama isthmus a few million years ago allowed the interchange of fauna from North ans South America to intermingle (the “Great American Interchange”).


29 posted on 02/11/2010 10:25:28 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: maine-iac7

Berengia


30 posted on 02/11/2010 10:26:44 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Adder
A genome map wasn’t all he needed....He apparently had the gene for getting lost...thats a heckuva trip from Siberia to Greenland.

LOL! Good one.

31 posted on 02/11/2010 10:28:04 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Carry_Okie; FredJake
He had teeth like North Asians (Sindodonty) and ear way (Dry) like Europeans and Africans. Asians have sticky ear wax.
32 posted on 02/11/2010 10:45:17 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
IOW it's more complex than we realize.

Cool!

33 posted on 02/11/2010 10:56:35 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: AFPhys
"Yet another piece of evidence that suggests the Arctic Ocean has been ice-free in the past."

Those damned SUVs!
34 posted on 02/11/2010 12:14:23 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Not necessarily so.

Assuming that the magnetic north pole was around 80 degrees north, it’s possible that sailing in the Gulf of Okhosk would show the pole star as slightly in the south. Magnetic deviation there is about -10 from true.

It would be enough to sail north of Japan to acheive this effect.


35 posted on 02/11/2010 3:16:22 PM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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To: sten

They’re trying to imply that the siberians walked accross the bering strait and then across canada and then across to greenland.

I say that’s silly. the shortest route would be to walk north from siberia over the north pole and then south to greenland.


36 posted on 02/11/2010 4:29:23 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: aruanan

Looks like a chinese joe dirt to me.


37 posted on 02/11/2010 4:29:51 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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38 posted on 02/11/2010 5:11:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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