Skip to comments.Little Barry heads back to school next week
Posted on 02/13/2010 10:35:13 AM PST by opentalk
The Central Jakarta administration will move the controversial "Little Barry" statue from its current location at Taman Menteng in Central Jakarta to state elementary school SDN 01 Menteng next week, an official says.
"We are currently discussing with officials from the school and its alumni association," city spokesman Cucu Ahmad Kurnia told reporters Friday. "We hope the move will happen next week."
US President Barack Obama attended the elementary school for almost two years when he spent part of his childhood in Jakarta.
Erected by the Jakarta-based Friends of Obama Foundation in December last year, the statue, which resembles Obama as a boy, recently sparked wide public criticism for insulting the nation's pride.
Just a few days after the Central Jakarta municipality unveiled the statue at Menteng Park, experts and a group of Facebook users demanded it be dismantled.
On Wednesday, the Central Jakarta District Court held a hearing to try a class action lawsuit by five plaintiffs representing 50,000 members of the "Take down the Barack Obama statue from Menteng Park" group on Facebook.
The five plaintiffs - Heru Nugroho, Protus Tanuhandaru, Daniel Rudi Haryanto, Andes Soesman and FX Agung Bimo Sutedjo - filed the suit against Jakarta governor, Central Jakarta mayor and the Jakarta Parks and Cemeteries Agency, saying the statue didn't deserve a place at the park and should be immediately removed.
Although appreciating the administration's plan to remove the statue, Heru said the group would go ahead with its lawsuit.
"We will only withdraw the lawsuit if the city administration publicly apologizes for its one-sided decision to permit the statue," he told The Jakarta Post.
Hawaiian-born Obama moved to Indonesia at the age of six to live with his mother, Ann Dunham, and Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro.
Obama attended third grade at the school in 1968. He returned to Hawaii at the age of 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.
That’s the one that “sorta/kinda/maybe” cinched his parenthood for me.
I don’t have it bookmarked.
Thanks, Fred. That’s the one.
Or perhaps BO's biographies are just so much smoke and mirrors? Hmm?
To quote someone, maybe bubba or his missus: "I don't recall."
and why have you pinged people to the photo if "all old time freepers" are familiar with it?????
Just trying to help everyone keep up. Occasionally, there are new freepers on the Ping List, and they (and the entire list) are pinged to material other freepers read/saw two years ago. For instance, I've posted the link to the 0bama's Mama's nude photos several times.
About those who are giving you a hard time for being a noob, just ignore them. (Someone called me a noob after I had been here seven years.) Your posting history speaks for you. Actually, I was considering asking if you would help with the Ping List.
Yes, and she always had been. Not a natural born citizen, any more than her half brother is. But she was a citizen at birth under 8 USC 1401
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...
(1986Subsec. (g). Pub. L. 99653 substituted five years, at least two for ten years, at least five.)
Since Maya was born in 1970, well before 1986, the 10/5 rule applied to her situation. But by that time, Stanley Ann satisfied those conditions, although she did not when BO was born (which only matters, for citizenship at birth, if he was born outside the US).
Thanks for the morph, Fred Nerks.
Hennie Pennie, check out #151.
I kept copies of the newspaper announcements of my sons’ births.
Betcha at least some of the other families listed with the Obama announcement saved originals, too. If, of course, it’s legit.
I think it probably is, but that the report of the birth was from family to the Dept. to Vital Stats, which included private as well as hospital births in the weekly list sent to the newspapers. Which proves nothing, other than Stanley Ann gave birth to a son in the summer of 1961.
In 1961, families went to great lengths to cover for an out-of-wedlock pregnancy. I’m assuming that most folks here are younger than I am. I lived in those more modest times. Even the most socially liberal would not have risked the kind of scandal that Stanley Ann Dunham was posing for her family.
The announcement gives no hint as to the legitimacy of the marriage, whether Barak Sr. was the true father, or place of birth, and it is certainly no proof that Ann and the baby were actually living at the purported address. Knowing what we now know, it fairly reeks of Granny putting a pretty face on a difficult situation.
Just my two cents. But I would like to see the originals on newspulp of those announcements.
I think maybe Pops ( Stanley Dunham)is the father by an unknown black lady.
After he makes a mess of our Economy, picture him living big in another country with large amount of cash.
I don't know if you've noticed, zero tells us nothing in 'Dreams' - everything relating to his past is put into the mouth of others.
Uncle George? Or maybe "Uncle Kahlid" with the funds actually coming from "Uncle Ali", who also was a Sugar Daddy to CAIR.
The African side of the family refer to JR’s mom as Anna Toot, or is that what you are saying.....Found it in several places when I was looking for connections between the Obama family and the missionaries in Africa.
Is Barack Obama related to Malcolm X? Looking at features one by one and comparing.
Sorry for the typos in my post. That’s what happens when you are typing on one computer and installing Quick Books Pro on a laptop, at the same time.
Dont be so sure about that. Just wait and see. You can rest assured it will never be posted herE or anywhere else. Just wait until 2011. We arent getting him out, forget that. He will not run again and if he does, he will not be reelected. The goOd evidence is in the hands of people that know what to do with it, and no, not people like Orly. Experienced, well known people who know what to to with evidence and know to keep their mouths shut while they build their cases.
Height can go through just one of the parents, from grandparents. Since Stanley Armour was tall, that could be how 0bama got his height.
I am shocked that NO group of American lawyers saw fit to work on this years ago, when it first became apparent that the Libbies were running an ineligible candidate
I don’t believe it was known until it was too late. Obamamania was rampant and rabid. I think rather than have the US look like fools, a Constitutional crisis, probably riots, maybe civil war, they decided to let it go and pretend. Probably Pelosi, Reid and many others were involved. It would created a situation that could have been disastrous.
I think Bill and Hillary knew, but by that time it was thought she could not beat McCain. Bill did make that odd statement... “IF Obongo was qualified to be president”. I found it very odd at the time, now it makes more sense. That was his little dig, his hint, and the reason Hillary got her position even thought Wookie detests Hillary.
He knows he is going to have to pony up with some docs to run again. As much as Wookie loves the perks of the WH and wants to milk it for all she can, I don’t think there is a chance he will run or be elected again. He’s history in 2012.
They sure look alike...
She did not need to, under the statute law at the time, Maya was a citizen at birth, because by 1970, Ann had lived in the US for 10 years, 5 of them after her 14th birthday.
As to registering him in two different hospitals, that is not the way it was or is done. Hospitals only register births that occur in their facility. To register a birth not occurring in a hospital, you'd go to the Department of Health office and fill out the same form the hospitals use, but you would not list a hospital. I think the "two hospitals" problem comes from not keeping their lies straight, as to which hospital they were claiming birth in, while the truth may have been "niether".
Even the newspaper birth announcements do not say *where* the birth occurred. Pity that, my home town paper did and does indicate which of the city's hospitals the birth occurred in.
So is Barry.
It was because someone posted it again. You must have asked LucyT to put you on her ping list. She pings to lots of pictures.
You had commented "Amazingly, we suddenly learn." I just wanted to let you know that it wasn't suddenly.
I just noticed your posting to LucyT at #148 saying I was berating you as a noob. I am sorry if I offended you.
Did he call him Pops? Not that I am aware of. I read Dreams, I don’t recall him calling him that but it’s possible and I just forgot.
I know. At first I thought it was a mistaken referral to Madelyn. I googled “Annie Toot” and did indeed find a few references referring to Anne.
I try to keep in mind these stories are ancedotal and may not be told by the best of historians.
This is what I think. Once they found out they were not going back. They wanted power. With majority they could cover it up. Without majority they would say they thought Obama was vetted previously in Chicago.
Did you read the article?
post# 128 Stanley on the right.
‘Dreams From My Father’:
Only Malcolm Xs autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me;
the blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial
in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. All the other stuff, the talk of blue-eyed devils and apocalypse, was
incidental to that program, I decided, religious baggage that Malcolm himself seemed to have safely abandoned toward
the end of his life. And yet, even as I imagined myself following Malcolms call, one line in the book stayed me. He
spoke of a wish hed once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might
somehow be expunged. I knew that, for Malcolm, that wish would never be incidental. I knew as well that traveling
down the road to self-respect my own white blood would never recede into mere abstraction. I was left to wonder what
else I would be severing if and when I left my mother and my grandparents at some uncharted border.
They do look alike. The person who revealed this story said Malcolm X had a secret son. I cannot find anything on a secret son. FBI followed him everywhere he went and there is no record of any indiscretions that anyone found.
And Malcolm X was against extra marital relations and said to be why he left the Islam group whatever it was called.
He had a white girlfriend early ‘50s I think. but after they all went to prison they never saw each other again. I think she turned on him from what I read.
Pieces don’t fit.
I think he/she was mocking all the misinformation. Like with Maya saying Obama was born in one hospital and then another report saying he was born elsewhere. Two different hospitals?
Am I wrong? I am blonde.
No problem, I’d rather see it a dozen times than miss a new one.
I believe Pops in that poem is FMD.
Only problem with that theory is that zero looks nothing like Obama Snr, there’s no evidence that Stanely Ann was EVER in Hawaii, and when the old man died, there was ONLY ONE offspring who could PROVE he was the biological child of Senior.
AND THAT WAS MARK!
“U. S. Army finds Malcolm “mentally disqualified for military service;” because of psychopathic personality inadequacies, sexual perversion, psychiatric rejection; is classified 4F.”
mmmmmmm,,,This piece seems to fit...
Who on earth is that fat dude next to Mark? I seem to remember knowing at one time.
No idea....not sure I want to find out. ;)
I have always thought FMD was Pops in the poem as well.
The morph is freaky but what’s super freaky is they sound just alike as well. There was once a youtube with comparing their intonation, cadence, etc. I’m not saying they’re related, but anything is possible with this guy. Perhaps someone knows the link.
Some people are pack rats and never throw away newspapers. Not even old ones. Especially if they detail some significant event. Especially if they're from a place where they honeymooned.
Many people chose Hawai'i as a honeymoon destination. Many saved old newspapers as mementoes.
The newspaper (actual newspaper, now yellowed and fragile pulp by now, likely) may be in someone's attic or garage, tucked away somewhere, forgotten... maybe. But that paper has the real birth announcements in it.
And the old racist Strom Thurmond had a secret black daughter. Seduction can trump principle.
And the old racist Strom Thurmond had a secret black daughter. Seduction can trump principle.
The real question is whether the paths of X and Stanley Ann ever crossed, like the “au pair” summer in Chicago mentioned in O’s book.
Frank Marshall Davis Interview
MALCOLM X EXPLAINS BLACK NATIONALISM
This would explain why he did not go to her when she died of cancer. Also why she left him or why he was taken from her by his grandparents.
mojitojoe’s been dropping some hints.
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