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Little Barry heads back to school next week
The Jakarta Post ^ | 02/13/2010 | Hasyim Widhiarto

Posted on 02/13/2010 10:35:13 AM PST by opentalk

The Central Jakarta administration will move the controversial "Little Barry" statue from its current location at Taman Menteng in Central Jakarta to state elementary school SDN 01 Menteng next week, an official says.

"We are currently discussing with officials from the school and its alumni association," city spokesman Cucu Ahmad Kurnia told reporters Friday. "We hope the move will happen next week."

US President Barack Obama attended the elementary school for almost two years when he spent part of his childhood in Jakarta.

Erected by the Jakarta-based Friends of Obama Foundation in December last year, the statue, which resembles Obama as a boy, recently sparked wide public criticism for insulting the nation's pride.

Just a few days after the Central Jakarta municipality unveiled the statue at Menteng Park, experts and a group of Facebook users demanded it be dismantled.

On Wednesday, the Central Jakarta District Court held a hearing to try a class action lawsuit by five plaintiffs representing 50,000 members of the "Take down the Barack Obama statue from Menteng Park" group on Facebook.

The five plaintiffs - Heru Nugroho, Protus Tanuhandaru, Daniel Rudi Haryanto, Andes Soesman and FX Agung Bimo Sutedjo - filed the suit against Jakarta governor, Central Jakarta mayor and the Jakarta Parks and Cemeteries Agency, saying the statue didn't deserve a place at the park and should be immediately removed.

Although appreciating the administration's plan to remove the statue, Heru said the group would go ahead with its lawsuit.

"We will only withdraw the lawsuit if the city administration publicly apologizes for its one-sided decision to permit the statue," he told The Jakarta Post.

Hawaiian-born Obama moved to Indonesia at the age of six to live with his mother, Ann Dunham, and Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro.

Obama attended third grade at the school in 1968. He returned to Hawaii at the age of 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.


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151 posted on 02/16/2010 4:30:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: LucyT

That’s the one that “sorta/kinda/maybe” cinched his parenthood for me.

I don’t have it bookmarked.


152 posted on 02/16/2010 4:30:34 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks (Dollar a Day Member..............Free Republic is not Free!)
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To: Fred Nerks; hennie pennie

Thanks, Fred. That’s the one.


153 posted on 02/16/2010 4:32:27 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks (Dollar a Day Member..............Free Republic is not Free!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Widely published biographies say Obama lived in Indonesia from 1967 through 1971, and none mention his third-grade year at Noelani, Inoue acknowledges. But he said Obama attended at least part of his third-grade year at Noelani in 1969, perhaps during a visit back to Hawaii, and moved away.

Or perhaps BO's biographies are just so much smoke and mirrors? Hmm?

154 posted on 02/16/2010 4:32:39 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: hennie pennie
When did YOU first see this photograph

To quote someone, maybe bubba or his missus: "I don't recall."

and why have you pinged people to the photo if "all old time freepers" are familiar with it?????

Just trying to help everyone keep up. Occasionally, there are new freepers on the Ping List, and they (and the entire list) are pinged to material other freepers read/saw two years ago. For instance, I've posted the link to the 0bama's Mama's nude photos several times.

About those who are giving you a hard time for being a noob, just ignore them. (Someone called me a noob after I had been here seven years.) Your posting history speaks for you. Actually, I was considering asking if you would help with the Ping List.

155 posted on 02/16/2010 4:41:24 PM PST by LucyT
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To: hennie pennie
Thank you, El Gato, for correcting me, I was mistaken — but isn’t Maya an American citizen, NOW???

Yes, and she always had been. Not a natural born citizen, any more than her half brother is. But she was a citizen at birth under 8 USC 1401

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
...
g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...

(1986—Subsec. (g). Pub. L. 99–653 substituted “five years, at least two” for “ten years, at least five”.)

Since Maya was born in 1970, well before 1986, the 10/5 rule applied to her situation. But by that time, Stanley Ann satisfied those conditions, although she did not when BO was born (which only matters, for citizenship at birth, if he was born outside the US).

156 posted on 02/16/2010 4:43:11 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Fred Nerks; hennie pennie

Thanks for the morph, Fred Nerks.

Hennie Pennie, check out #151.


157 posted on 02/16/2010 4:43:55 PM PST by LucyT
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To: mojitojoe; butterdezillion

I kept copies of the newspaper announcements of my sons’ births.

Betcha at least some of the other families listed with the Obama announcement saved originals, too. If, of course, it’s legit.

I think it probably is, but that the report of the birth was from family to the Dept. to Vital Stats, which included private as well as hospital births in the weekly list sent to the newspapers. Which proves nothing, other than Stanley Ann gave birth to a son in the summer of 1961.

In 1961, families went to great lengths to cover for an out-of-wedlock pregnancy. I’m assuming that most folks here are younger than I am. I lived in those more modest times. Even the most socially liberal would not have risked the kind of scandal that Stanley Ann Dunham was posing for her family.

The announcement gives no hint as to the legitimacy of the marriage, whether Barak Sr. was the true father, or place of birth, and it is certainly no proof that Ann and the baby were actually living at the purported address. Knowing what we now know, it fairly reeks of Granny putting a pretty face on a difficult situation.

Just my two cents. But I would like to see the originals on newspulp of those announcements.


158 posted on 02/16/2010 4:46:14 PM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: LucyT

I think maybe Pops ( Stanley Dunham)is the father by an unknown black lady.


159 posted on 02/16/2010 4:46:29 PM PST by Candor7 (((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
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To: Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
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Just in case anyone missed the photo morph at #151.

Thanks, Fred Nerks.

160 posted on 02/16/2010 4:47:29 PM PST by LucyT
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To: hennie pennie
NO way that the Dems will run BHO in 2012, he doesn't stand a chance of winning reelection.

After he makes a mess of our Economy, picture him living big in another country with large amount of cash.

161 posted on 02/16/2010 4:49:59 PM PST by opentalk
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To: El Gato
Or perhaps BO's biographies are just so much smoke and mirrors? Hmm?

I don't know if you've noticed, zero tells us nothing in 'Dreams' - everything relating to his past is put into the mouth of others.

162 posted on 02/16/2010 4:50:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: LucyT
Where did he get this traveling money, enough to spread cash around benevolently, when he had, according to the article, just left a low-paying “community organizer” job to return to school?

Uncle George? Or maybe "Uncle Kahlid" with the funds actually coming from "Uncle Ali", who also was a Sugar Daddy to CAIR.

163 posted on 02/16/2010 4:56:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: hennie pennie

The African side of the family refer to JR’s mom as Anna Toot, or is that what you are saying.....Found it in several places when I was looking for connections between the Obama family and the missionaries in Africa.


164 posted on 02/16/2010 4:58:55 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT

Is Barack Obama related to Malcolm X? Looking at features one by one and comparing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5QD_6UtfFo

Comparing pictures!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBgmpuubX1k


165 posted on 02/16/2010 5:03:42 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: hennie pennie

Sorry for the typos in my post. That’s what happens when you are typing on one computer and installing Quick Books Pro on a laptop, at the same time.

Corrected:

Don’t be so sure about that. Just wait and see. You can rest assured it will never be posted herE or anywhere else. Just wait until 2011. We aren’t getting him out, forget that. He will not run again and if he does, he will not be reelected. The goOd evidence is in the hands of people that know what to do with it, and no, not people like Orly. Experienced, well known people who know what to to with evidence and know to keep their mouths shut while they build their cases.


166 posted on 02/16/2010 5:06:18 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bushpilot1

Height can go through just one of the parents, from grandparents. Since Stanley Armour was tall, that could be how 0bama got his height.


167 posted on 02/16/2010 5:13:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: hennie pennie

I am shocked that NO group of American lawyers saw fit to work on this years ago, when it first became apparent that the Libbies were running an ineligible candidate
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I don’t believe it was known until it was too late. Obamamania was rampant and rabid. I think rather than have the US look like fools, a Constitutional crisis, probably riots, maybe civil war, they decided to let it go and pretend. Probably Pelosi, Reid and many others were involved. It would created a situation that could have been disastrous.
I think Bill and Hillary knew, but by that time it was thought she could not beat McCain. Bill did make that odd statement... “IF Obongo was qualified to be president”. I found it very odd at the time, now it makes more sense. That was his little dig, his hint, and the reason Hillary got her position even thought Wookie detests Hillary.
He knows he is going to have to pony up with some docs to run again. As much as Wookie loves the perks of the WH and wants to milk it for all she can, I don’t think there is a chance he will run or be elected again. He’s history in 2012.


168 posted on 02/16/2010 5:13:29 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

TANKS,ya’ll,,,

They sure look alike...


169 posted on 02/16/2010 5:14:47 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: OafOfOffice
As noted before, Barack Obama’s sister, Maya, has 2 online registered birth months of August and September. This would point to Ann Dunham having had Maya out of the country, too and in a few weeks hauled her back to Hawaii for a late registration too to be an American.

She did not need to, under the statute law at the time, Maya was a citizen at birth, because by 1970, Ann had lived in the US for 10 years, 5 of them after her 14th birthday.

As to registering him in two different hospitals, that is not the way it was or is done. Hospitals only register births that occur in their facility. To register a birth not occurring in a hospital, you'd go to the Department of Health office and fill out the same form the hospitals use, but you would not list a hospital. I think the "two hospitals" problem comes from not keeping their lies straight, as to which hospital they were claiming birth in, while the truth may have been "niether".

Even the newspaper birth announcements do not say *where* the birth occurred. Pity that, my home town paper did and does indicate which of the city's hospitals the birth occurred in.

170 posted on 02/16/2010 5:17:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: bushpilot1
Stanley is a smoker.

So is Barry.

171 posted on 02/16/2010 5:20:09 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: hennie pennie; LucyT
"Well, I have no idea why I was pinged to a photo that all the other freepers know about."

It was because someone posted it again. You must have asked LucyT to put you on her ping list. She pings to lots of pictures.

You had commented "Amazingly, we suddenly learn." I just wanted to let you know that it wasn't suddenly.

I just noticed your posting to LucyT at #148 saying I was berating you as a noob. I am sorry if I offended you.

172 posted on 02/16/2010 5:24:10 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: LucyT

Did he call him Pops? Not that I am aware of. I read Dreams, I don’t recall him calling him that but it’s possible and I just forgot.


173 posted on 02/16/2010 5:24:50 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: hennie pennie

I know. At first I thought it was a mistaken referral to Madelyn. I googled “Annie Toot” and did indeed find a few references referring to Anne.

I try to keep in mind these stories are ancedotal and may not be told by the best of historians.


174 posted on 02/16/2010 5:44:17 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: mojitojoe
I don’t believe it was known until it was too late.

This is what I think. Once they found out they were not going back. They wanted power. With majority they could cover it up. Without majority they would say they thought Obama was vetted previously in Chicago.

175 posted on 02/16/2010 5:57:25 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: expatguy
"Not just beaten with the rattan but locked in the bathroom until night."

"The Indonesian story of Lia (Mbak Nun) is not kind at all to Obama's mother Ann at all."


Whoa.....A crazy, violent, whore of a mother. Is it any wonder why Barry went back to Hawaii and turned to drugs, communism and homosexuality.......

Thank goodness for a free press in this country. We really dodged a bullet with this one. Can you imagine having this Hannibal Lector aka Hussien the Omen in the White House? /barf off
176 posted on 02/16/2010 5:58:37 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: El Gato

Did you read the article?


177 posted on 02/16/2010 5:59:39 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: little jeremiah

post# 128 Stanley on the right.


178 posted on 02/16/2010 6:01:39 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: maggief
Did he have a nose job?

My guess is he was over doing it on the coke.


179 posted on 02/16/2010 6:05:10 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: mojitojoe
Where pops comes from I think. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/another_look_at_obamas_origins.html Writes Obama: I see my face, framed within
 Pop's black-framed glasses
 And know he's laughing too.
180 posted on 02/16/2010 6:09:05 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: OafOfOffice

‘Dreams From My Father’:

Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me;
the blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial
in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. All the other stuff, the talk of blue-eyed devils and apocalypse, was
incidental to that program, I decided, religious baggage that Malcolm himself seemed to have safely abandoned toward
the end of his life. And yet, even as I imagined myself following Malcolm’s call, one line in the book stayed me. He
spoke of a wish he’d once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might
somehow be expunged. I knew that, for Malcolm, that wish would never be incidental. I knew as well that traveling
down the road to self-respect my own white blood would never recede into mere abstraction. I was left to wonder what
else I would be severing if and when I left my mother and my grandparents at some uncharted border.


181 posted on 02/16/2010 6:16:34 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

They do look alike. The person who revealed this story said Malcolm X had a secret son. I cannot find anything on a secret son. FBI followed him everywhere he went and there is no record of any indiscretions that anyone found.

And Malcolm X was against extra marital relations and said to be why he left the Islam group whatever it was called.

He had a white girlfriend early ‘50s I think. but after they all went to prison they never saw each other again. I think she turned on him from what I read.

http://www.reelhistory.org/malcolmx.html

http://www.brothermalcolm.net/mxtimeline.html

Pieces don’t fit.


182 posted on 02/16/2010 6:28:23 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: El Gato

I think he/she was mocking all the misinformation. Like with Maya saying Obama was born in one hospital and then another report saying he was born elsewhere. Two different hospitals?

Am I wrong? I am blonde.


183 posted on 02/16/2010 6:38:23 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Fred Nerks
Barry looks more like his half brother Mark Ndesandjo than Malcom X or FMD. Do a morph between Barry and Mark and you'd be closer. I have no doubt that Barry is the demon spawn of Barack Obama Sr. Same forehead and hairline with a splash of color. The rest is Dunham.

Does Mark look anything like Barack Obama Sr.? Survey sez....ehhhhh. He took after his mother's side also.


184 posted on 02/16/2010 6:51:25 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: hennie pennie

No problem, I’d rather see it a dozen times than miss a new one.


185 posted on 02/16/2010 6:57:52 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 390 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Electric Graffiti
I think Obama Sr. passed on a gay gene.....


186 posted on 02/16/2010 7:00:44 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: OafOfOffice

I believe Pops in that poem is FMD.


187 posted on 02/16/2010 7:13:53 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Only problem with that theory is that zero looks nothing like Obama Snr, there’s no evidence that Stanely Ann was EVER in Hawaii, and when the old man died, there was ONLY ONE offspring who could PROVE he was the biological child of Senior.

AND THAT WAS MARK!


188 posted on 02/16/2010 7:17:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: OafOfOffice

“U. S. Army finds Malcolm “mentally disqualified for military service;” because of psychopathic personality inadequacies, sexual perversion, psychiatric rejection; is classified 4F.”
~~~
mmmmmmm,,,This piece seems to fit...


189 posted on 02/16/2010 7:30:09 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Who on earth is that fat dude next to Mark? I seem to remember knowing at one time.


190 posted on 02/16/2010 7:35:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Fred Nerks
Only way this can be settled is to grab one of Ogabe's cig butts after one of his speeches and DNA test it ;) I'm sure one of his hundreds of half brothers and sisters would be willing to cough up some DNA for a little cash


191 posted on 02/16/2010 7:41:46 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: little jeremiah

No idea....not sure I want to find out. ;)


192 posted on 02/16/2010 7:42:35 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: mojitojoe

I have always thought FMD was Pops in the poem as well.


193 posted on 02/16/2010 7:54:11 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Fred Nerks

The morph is freaky but what’s super freaky is they sound just alike as well. There was once a youtube with comparing their intonation, cadence, etc. I’m not saying they’re related, but anything is possible with this guy. Perhaps someone knows the link.


194 posted on 02/16/2010 8:12:07 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bushpilot1; SvenMagnussen; butterdezillion; BIGLOOK; Danae; Fred Nerks; LucyT
Was an ad removed and Obama's birth added???

Some people are pack rats and never throw away newspapers. Not even old ones. Especially if they detail some significant event. Especially if they're from a place where they honeymooned.

Many people chose Hawai'i as a honeymoon destination. Many saved old newspapers as mementoes.

The newspaper (actual newspaper, now yellowed and fragile pulp by now, likely) may be in someone's attic or garage, tucked away somewhere, forgotten... maybe. But that paper has the real birth announcements in it.

195 posted on 02/16/2010 8:13:13 PM PST by thecodont
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To: OafOfOffice

And the old racist Strom Thurmond had a secret black daughter. Seduction can trump principle.


196 posted on 02/16/2010 8:13:38 PM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: OafOfOffice

And the old racist Strom Thurmond had a secret black daughter. Seduction can trump principle.

The real question is whether the paths of X and Stanley Ann ever crossed, like the “au pair” summer in Chicago mentioned in O’s book.


197 posted on 02/16/2010 8:14:53 PM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: bgill

Frank Marshall Davis Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C422SbjYHoU

MALCOLM X EXPLAINS BLACK NATIONALISM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO6Co8v2XjY


198 posted on 02/16/2010 8:19:38 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: LucyT

This would explain why he did not go to her when she died of cancer. Also why she left him or why he was taken from her by his grandparents.


199 posted on 02/16/2010 8:21:14 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: thecodont; mojitojoe

mojitojoe’s been dropping some hints.


200 posted on 02/16/2010 8:23:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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