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Little Barry heads back to school next week
The Jakarta Post ^ | 02/13/2010 | Hasyim Widhiarto

Posted on 02/13/2010 10:35:13 AM PST by opentalk

The Central Jakarta administration will move the controversial "Little Barry" statue from its current location at Taman Menteng in Central Jakarta to state elementary school SDN 01 Menteng next week, an official says.

"We are currently discussing with officials from the school and its alumni association," city spokesman Cucu Ahmad Kurnia told reporters Friday. "We hope the move will happen next week."

US President Barack Obama attended the elementary school for almost two years when he spent part of his childhood in Jakarta.

Erected by the Jakarta-based Friends of Obama Foundation in December last year, the statue, which resembles Obama as a boy, recently sparked wide public criticism for insulting the nation's pride.

Just a few days after the Central Jakarta municipality unveiled the statue at Menteng Park, experts and a group of Facebook users demanded it be dismantled.

On Wednesday, the Central Jakarta District Court held a hearing to try a class action lawsuit by five plaintiffs representing 50,000 members of the "Take down the Barack Obama statue from Menteng Park" group on Facebook.

The five plaintiffs - Heru Nugroho, Protus Tanuhandaru, Daniel Rudi Haryanto, Andes Soesman and FX Agung Bimo Sutedjo - filed the suit against Jakarta governor, Central Jakarta mayor and the Jakarta Parks and Cemeteries Agency, saying the statue didn't deserve a place at the park and should be immediately removed.

Although appreciating the administration's plan to remove the statue, Heru said the group would go ahead with its lawsuit.

"We will only withdraw the lawsuit if the city administration publicly apologizes for its one-sided decision to permit the statue," he told The Jakarta Post.

Hawaiian-born Obama moved to Indonesia at the age of six to live with his mother, Ann Dunham, and Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro.

Obama attended third grade at the school in 1968. He returned to Hawaii at the age of 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.


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1 posted on 02/13/2010 10:35:13 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
At the time Barry Soetoro was in Indonesia, all Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, as well as family card identification called a Kartu Keluarga. The Kartu Keluarga is a family card which bears the legal names and citizenship status of all family members.

Soetoro/Obama was registered in a public school as an Indonesian citizen by the name of Barry Soetoro and his father was listed as Lolo Soetoro, M.A. Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s, and any time a child was registered for a public school, the child’s name and citizenship status were verified through the Indonesian Government. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Chapter 13, Law No. 62 of 1958 (all citizens of Indonesia have a right to education). The Indonesian school record, indicates that Soetoro/Obama’s name is “Barry Soetoro;” his nationality is “Indonesia” and his father “Lolo Soetoro, M.A. There was no way for Soetoro/Obama to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen, as Indonesia was under tight rule and was a Police State. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Law No. 62 of 1958. These facts indicate that Obama/Soetoro is an Indonesian citizen, and therefore he is not eligible to be President of the United States.

ObamaCrimes.com
2 posted on 02/13/2010 11:43:02 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Clever tag line can only be seen on the other Internets.)
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To: SvenMagnussen; LucyT
At the time Barry Soetoro was in Indonesia, all Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, as well as family card identification called a Kartu Keluarga. The Kartu Keluarga is a family card which bears the legal names and citizenship status of all family members.


3 posted on 02/13/2010 1:37:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SvenMagnussen; hennie pennie; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
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At the time Barry Soetoro was in Indonesia, all Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, as well as family card identification called a Kartu Keluarga. The Kartu Keluarga is a family card which bears the legal names and citizenship status of all family members.

. . . . Check out article - and #2 and #3.

[Thanks, Fred Nerks.]

4 posted on 02/13/2010 4:28:40 PM PST by LucyT
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To: opentalk

bump


5 posted on 02/13/2010 4:31:55 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: LucyT
US President Barack Obama attended the elementary school for almost two years when he spent part of his childhood in Jakarta.

Hawaiian-born Obama moved to Indonesia at the age of six to live with his mother, Ann Dunham, and Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro.

Obama attended third grade at the school in 1968. He returned to Hawaii at the age of 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.

More questions with each article.

He only attended school there for 2 years??? What did he do the other years? Then of course, they say he attended 3rd grade in 1968 and we also have a photo of him in 3rd grade in Hawaii.

6 posted on 02/13/2010 5:53:07 PM PST by Velveeta
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A former Manoa resident sent President Barack Obama an old photo of the two of them taken while they were third-grade classmates at Noelani Elementary School, requesting an autograph more than six months ago. He recently received the autographed picture back, as well as a personally signed thank-you note.

The picture -- with the words "Scott & Barry 3rd grade 1969" scribbled at the bottom by Inoue's mother -- shows Obama almost a head taller than Inoue, with their arms around each other.

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20091228_third_grade_photo_captures_obamas_grin.html


7 posted on 02/13/2010 5:56:38 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: SvenMagnussen

According to Ann and Lolo’s divorce, Hussein is the “oldest child in university” and Maya is the child in “both mother and child are U.S. citizens while father is an Indonesian citizen.” That would lead one to believe that Hussein is still considered a US citizen from the US court’s point of view.

http://theobamafile.com/_images/SoetoroChildCare2.jpg


8 posted on 02/13/2010 6:28:06 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

bump


9 posted on 02/13/2010 6:30:14 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Velveeta; LucyT
One More Mystery -- Third Grade

On February 9th, 2010, I received the following email from "Northeast Elizabeth":

On your site's "Education" page, you post a photograph identified as "Barry, 3rd Grade, 1969" which is identical to this one appearing in the Honolulu Star Bulletin in December, 2009 (in an article revealing that Obama spent at least part of third grade in Hawaii and not solely Jakarta as widely reported). Did you add it to your site after that date, or was it there before? I ask because in the article, Obama's former classmate Scott Inoue indicates that he didn't receive the photo back from Obama until November 2009, and I had assumed that Star's publication of the picture the next month would have been the first appearance of it. However, the page on your site on which it appears indicates copyright, Beckwith, 2008" at the bottom so I wasn't sure if it was from back then (and if so, how you would have it if it were a private picture of Inoue's, unless Inoue got it elsewhere and was playing a trick).

Unfortunately, I have no memory of when I added that photo. However, I checked the properties on that image and it was created on Sunday, October 18, 2009 -- so it was clearly before. So, I had it before it was returned to Inoue in November, 2009.

However, it's clear I acquired the photo without the back story, prompting me to archive the photo as an Indonesian-Besuki-period artifact.

Somehow, I missed the Star Bulletin report. This was the first I'd heard of Obama being in the 3rd grade -- and in Hawaii? He was supposed to be in Indonesia -- the report contradicts Obama's own autobiography, as well as multiple biographies, that say he attended grades 1 through 5 in Jakarta, Indonesia. From the report:

EXCERPT - THE OBAMA FILE...read more

10 posted on 02/13/2010 6:47:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Velveeta; Beckwith
According to Properties, I downloaded that image on Sunday, October 4, 2009:


11 posted on 02/13/2010 6:56:37 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Velveeta; Beckwith
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OF OBAMA IN INDONESIA.link

The picture taken on Jan. 21, 2009 shows a combined photo of the past and the present United States President Barack Obama and his schoolmates at SDN Menteng 01 elementary school where U.S. President Barack Obama studied during his time in Indonesia in Jakarta.(Xinhua/Yue Yuewei)

Looks like Scott and Obama went to school in Indonesia together too...

12 posted on 02/13/2010 7:18:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: LucyT

FREE THE BC!!!...


13 posted on 02/13/2010 7:19:01 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Velveeta

Surely, someone has the 3rd grade picture showing the whole class.

1967 to 72 - the years Maya says Hussein was in Indonesia
1967 - Kindergarten picture in HI. To make the age correct (age 5 = 196-67 school year), it would have to have been taken in the springtime however some claim he was only there 2-3 months before the move to Indonesia.
1968 - article about statue claims he attended 3rd grade in Jarkarta and there almost two years. Smart kid to go from kindergarten to 3rd grade the next year.
1969 - Picture of “Scott & Barry 3rd grade 1969” classmates at Noelani Elementary School, HI. Fall ‘69 would be accurate for an 8 year old 3rd grader.
1970 - ?
1971 - ? - Maya born in Jakarta but later obtains a HI COLB.
1972 - Some accounts say Ann took him back to HI in ‘71 but some say ‘72. Note the airport pictures with Sr. are at Christmas so perhaps everyone arrived sometime around Dec. ‘71 or Jan. ‘72 when he was 10.


14 posted on 02/13/2010 7:40:45 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Velveeta

So he was a homo even then.


15 posted on 02/13/2010 7:56:26 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Fred Nerks

Wait just a minute.

Is that Scotty-boy in the Indonesian picture? Hussein’s head is suspiciously enormous.

The Scott and Barry 3rd grade picture has Christmas trees behind them and is supposed to be in Manoa, HI.

Weaving webs and deception.


16 posted on 02/13/2010 7:57:14 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Sure does, what a tangled web they weave, the question is... if there is nothing to hide, why? I can tell you why. The biggest fraud ever perpetuated in the United States.


17 posted on 02/13/2010 7:59:47 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bgill
someone is telling lies...

the same little chinese boy also appears in the above image IMO. He's on the far left, bottom row.

18 posted on 02/13/2010 8:05:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Any idea who the 50-ish tall white dude might be?

http://english.sina.com/world/p/2009/0121/213301.html


19 posted on 02/13/2010 8:08:00 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bgill; Fred Nerks

AND!

He ALSO attended 3rd grade at the Asisi school:

Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B.

Barry attended the Franciscan Asisi Primary School for three years until class 3 afterwards his family moved house from H Ramir Street to Dempo Street where he attended Besuki Primary School for one year before departing to Hawaii.

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/tracking-down-obama-in-indonesia-part-3.html


20 posted on 02/13/2010 8:12:26 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Fred Nerks

Hmm, hard to tell.


21 posted on 02/13/2010 8:16:20 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: mojitojoe; bgill

Maybe Stanley Ann had twins? That would explain how he could be in two places at once.../sigh

22 posted on 02/13/2010 8:19:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
"Looks like Scott and Obama went to school in Indonesia together too..."

Are you saying Scott is one of those boys in that group picture? If so which one, because I don't see any resemblance of the boy in the bottom picture with Barack to any of those in the group picture.

23 posted on 02/13/2010 8:21:21 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: bgill

No idea, sorry. Notice how no names are given?


24 posted on 02/13/2010 8:21:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: opentalk

” . . . the statue, which resembles Obama as a boy, recently sparked wide public criticism for insulting the nation’s pride.”


Fully understandable, as this man insults America’s pride as well.


25 posted on 02/13/2010 8:22:40 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: All

I see from googling that the Besuki school and Meteng are one and the same.


26 posted on 02/13/2010 8:23:30 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

Thanks, forgot about the Catholic school. Ok, so maybe that’s where the Christmas trees come in at but then there’s still the question of where/when/how does Scott fit in.

Anyone else think there’s a Czar of Cover Up who’s having fun sending us all on a wild goose chase?


27 posted on 02/13/2010 8:26:19 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Spunky

It’s not compulsory. It’s just an OPINION! You may also NOT be able to see the resemblence between the circled ADULT and Scott Inoue the chiropractor...but I can.

Hint: He’s NOT wearing his glasses.


28 posted on 02/13/2010 8:27:17 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yep, I spent a good while searching around for names.


29 posted on 02/13/2010 8:27:46 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: opentalk

“He returned to Hawaii at the age of 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.”

_______________________________________________

I have always wondered why he was sent away from his mom.


30 posted on 02/13/2010 8:30:37 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

The story is that Sr. went back to Hawaii around the ‘71/72 holiday season (per airport photos) to take care of family stuff. A student at the Punahou School said Hussein “won” a scholarship and he claimed he was the son of an African prince.

Total speculation here but in most cases of kids getting sent away in second marriages is problems with step-parents. Ann has two choices 1) send him to Kenya with Sr. except Keziah wasn’t too happy with the white wife so she certainly wouldn’t want to raise the half white kid, or 2) send him to the US but there might have been legal problems giving the grandparents some sort of custody what with the adoption and possible Indonesian citizenship.

It would be a win-win for everyone for Sr. to come back to Hawaii to deal with any legal issues. Lolo gets rid of the step kid. Ann has her son back in America. Sr. takes a few weeks to take care of the family matter and can go back to Africa without a guilty conscience. Keziah doesn’t have to raise the white kid. The Punahou School gets to brag they have enrolled the son of an African prince and have given him a scholarship which they can write off their taxes because it’s for poor, impoverished, in transition, Kenya. The Dunhams aren’t out any private school tuition for the grandkid. And little Barry can carve “King Obama” into the sidewalk.


31 posted on 02/13/2010 9:20:47 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bgill
How can she be an American citizen when born in Indonesia and went to school there???

Her background is as murky as her brother's!!!

32 posted on 02/13/2010 9:28:44 PM PST by danamco
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To: bgill

Thank you for that reply and as I suspected, Barry was a problem child. Possibly some sibling rivalry with baby sis, child of Soetero? Who knows, but there was a problem.

I saw that pic of “King Obama” on the sidewalk so I believe he was told such and believes it to this day. That he is an “African King”. Perhaps he is but he certainly isn’t my “King” and ergo, the problem in America.

Great posts, BTW. Nite.


33 posted on 02/13/2010 9:29:40 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: opentalk

That photo does not look like Obama. Who is Obama?


34 posted on 02/13/2010 9:31:05 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: bgill; LucyT

What year was Maya born? We also have to acknowledge that when Maya was born the resident requirement at the time of Barry’s birth for citizenship to pass from mother to son, would no longer apply for Maya.


35 posted on 02/13/2010 11:10:03 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: opentalk
Photobucket
36 posted on 02/14/2010 7:42:07 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: SvenMagnussen
Very interesting, but , just like Billdo Clinton's scandals, NOTHING will be done about it.
37 posted on 02/14/2010 7:55:51 AM PST by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Photobucket Photobucket
38 posted on 02/14/2010 7:57:07 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: SvenMagnussen
Photobucket Everyone please note when there is an advertisement between birth announcements there are horizontal lines. Where no advertisements no hortizontal lines. Obama's birth announcement is the only one has horizontal lines. Any ideas? Was an ad removed and Obama's birth added???
39 posted on 02/14/2010 8:18:29 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

heck now I see lines drawn across the page.


40 posted on 02/14/2010 8:21:37 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: opentalk

Where will the people of Jakarta worship if they remove the statue/idol?


41 posted on 02/14/2010 8:22:17 AM PST by FourPeas ([F]or hostility is a relation and an enemy is not a total stranger. C.S. Lewis, Perelandra)
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To: bushpilot1
Everyone please note when there is an advertisement between birth announcements there are horizontal lines. Where no advertisements no hortizontal lines. Obama's birth announcement is the only one has horizontal lines. Any ideas? Was an ad removed and Obama's birth added???

I've been saying this all along. Glad someone else finally understand this.

42 posted on 02/14/2010 11:15:49 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bushpilot1
Was an ad removed and Obama's birth added???

Didn't notice this before. Wonder where photo originally came from.

43 posted on 02/14/2010 11:30:03 AM PST by opentalk
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To: JouleZ

More likely there is another reason he was dumped off in Hawaii that year. Frank Marshall Davis’s wife moved out and they got a divorce. Barry was sent home to be with his real father. Senior just took the blame for the very married FMD. That’s my theory.
Of course there is the new theory floating around that he was the son of an affair between Gramps and the black bartender. Anything is possible. I don’t believe for a minute that his mom dumped him back in Hawaii because he was acting up. That’s BS. Unless she was ashamed to have a black kid around after she had her pretty, little white girl. Who knows...


44 posted on 02/14/2010 2:55:29 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bushpilot1

Fake. HINT....Copies of the actual newspapers, not microfilm from that day.


45 posted on 02/14/2010 2:56:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bushpilot1

Any ideas? Was an ad removed and Obama’s birth added???
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Yes, but only on the microfilm. Actual newspapers from that date will show a different story. tick tock tick tock......


46 posted on 02/14/2010 2:58:12 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bushpilot1; LucyT; Candor7; manc; Las Vegas Ron; Red Steel; MHGinTN; BP2

Busted ping... actual newspapers from that day will prove the microfilm was tampered with.


47 posted on 02/14/2010 3:02:27 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Velveeta; hennie pennie; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
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Pinging to the thread, again. New information; begin at #6, and read to the end of page.

Bookmarked.

[Thanks Velveeta and Fred Nerks.]

48 posted on 02/14/2010 3:47:44 PM PST by LucyT
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To: SvenMagnussen
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49 posted on 02/14/2010 3:49:31 PM PST by LucyT
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To: mojitojoe; LucyT

mj, possibly you infer that someone has the actual newspaper?
(NOW I have hope for change...)


50 posted on 02/14/2010 3:53:34 PM PST by bitt (One if by land, Two if by sea. Three if by CRIMINALS from Washington, D.C)
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