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4-Year-Old Girl Survives Attack By Pit Bull
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Posted on 02/15/2010 8:43:10 PM PST by Chet 99

By Amanda Hara

MANCHESTER, Tenn. - A girl survived a close call when a pit bull attacked her. It happened five days ago in Manchester, but Kalin Gurdak's wounds are still very visible.

"They said that pit bulls usually attack the throat, and if he would have got her by the throat then it would have been over with," said mother Brandy Gurdak.

Police said the dog likely bit the 4-year-old three different times. It took 58 stitches to close the wounds.

Brandy said her now ex-boyfriend brought the dog home and asked to watch it for a friend.

She said the dog seemed calm, but snapped when Kalin kissed it on the forehead last week.

The ex boyfriend, Greg Dixon, was charged for lying to police about what happened. He was also charged with reckless endangerment for violating city ordinances and keeping the dog inside the apartment.

"I don't place the blame on him. It was both of our faults for having the dog in there, and now she's the one having to suffer from it," said Brandy.

The dog has since been euthanized, but Kalin may need plastic surgery in the future.


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1 posted on 02/15/2010 8:43:10 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

As always, I expect the “its not the breed it is the owners” in 3...2...1 (statistics be damned).


2 posted on 02/15/2010 8:44:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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She said the dog seemed calm, but snapped when Kalin kissed it on the forehead last week.

Kiss on the forehead? Well well, the poor Pit Bull was obviously provoked! < / pit bull apologist>

3 posted on 02/15/2010 8:45:11 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

How come nobody ever wants to talk about all the golden retreiver attacks that happen in this country?


4 posted on 02/15/2010 8:45:51 PM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: freedumb2003

I’d be happy to accept their argument if we could euthanize the owners.


5 posted on 02/15/2010 8:46:07 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

Just breathing around a pit bull could be provocation.


6 posted on 02/15/2010 8:47:59 PM PST by battletank
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To: freedumb2003

I’m still waiting to hear about a viscious pack of chihuahuas coming out of the blue and attacking some one. Any one? Any one?


7 posted on 02/15/2010 8:50:35 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I was attacked by a vicious pack of scotty terriers once.


8 posted on 02/15/2010 8:53:34 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Chet 99

Owners own up and call it their fault....pigs must be flying tonight..


9 posted on 02/15/2010 8:55:44 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Chet 99

Hi Chet, watching the dog show? The Non Sporting Group, including American Bull Terriers, and their cousins, is up tonight.


10 posted on 02/15/2010 9:00:23 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

>>I’m still waiting to hear about a viscious pack of chihuahuas coming out of the blue and attacking some one. Any one? Any one?<<

Heck, lets up the ante. German Shepherds who kill/maim babies on a regular basis? Great Danes? Retrievers?


11 posted on 02/15/2010 9:03:26 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: mamelukesabre

>>I was attacked by a vicious pack of scotty terriers once.<<

Terriers and Yorkies are nasty little b@stards. But they have rarely killed nor maimed.


12 posted on 02/15/2010 9:04:35 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Chet 99

Why is nobody focused on the idiot mother who said “Okay, I’ll look after the dog?”

Is she on crack? Why the hell would she do that? That gal should have said no way, you said you’d look after it, you look after it away from my house and daughter.

Thank you American Public Schools. We have dumb-assed adults running around that can’t take care of themselves or their kids because of you. And we’re paying a fortune for total crap results that generate situations exactly like these.


13 posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:05 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Chet 99

TheIndyChannel.com

Related To Story

Boy Gets 100 Stitches After Dog Attack

Animal Quarantined, May Be Destroyed

POSTED: 9:24 pm EDT March 27, 2008
A Columbus third-grader has missed more than a week of school after a dog attack left him needing more than 100 stitches on his face.Jakob Kelso (pictured), 9, said he had just finished playing on a trampoline at a friend's house last week when a German shepherd attacked, puncturing his face and knocking out one of his permanent teeth."I was sitting down, putting on my shoes. I looked over and the dog ran out of the door and attacked me," he told 6News' Ben Morriston on Thursday.The dog's owner called 911, and Jakob was taken to a hospital."It took over 100 stitches on the outside of his face and down the side of his nose and 25 to 30 stitches on the inside of his mouth and on the inside of his face," said his mother, Annie Kelso.Annie Kelso said her son's story differed from that of the dog's owner."She said Jakob walked in the house and startled the dog," Annie Kelso said.The dog has been quarantined in the owner's home."The law allows an owner to quarantine their dog in their home if they have the facilities to do so," said Kevin Konetzka, of Columbus' animal control department. "We have no reason to believe they can't do that or follow those requirements."The animal control department said the owner plans to destroy the dog.Attempts by 6News to reach the dog's owner for comment were unsuccessful.Jakob said he hopes to return to school next week.

14 posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:07 PM PST by hamboy
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To: freedumb2003

Look at the circumstances. The dog was not even the ex-bf’s dog. The dog was stressed at being in a strange place among people not of his pack and just reacted as a dog would.


15 posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: freedumb2003

I think they should all be outlawed. Nasty little vermin. Pugs too...just cuz they’re worthless.


16 posted on 02/15/2010 9:09:41 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

>>The dog was not even the ex-bf’s dog. The dog was stressed at being in a strange place among people not of his pack and just reacted as a dog would.<<

That explains all the Shepherd, Retriever, Great Dane,etc. reports of similar injuries in similar circumstances.


17 posted on 02/15/2010 9:10:41 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

Let me ask you, would you dog sit for a breed of dog known to be aggressive without knowing the dog? The BF is an idiot and I hold HIM and not the dog for the little girl’s injuries. Ask any dog trainer, the dog was just reacting like a dog.

BTW, what dog is responsible for biting more children than any other? Answer: Cocker Spaniel. (at least it used to be)


18 posted on 02/15/2010 9:16:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The dog was stressed at being in a strange place among people not of his pack and just reacted as a dog would.

Then where are all the reports of all the rest of the dogs in this country which reacted this way under similar circumstances?

Or are you saying that pits comprise the vast majority of dogs owned so that the percentage of attacks reported coincides completely with the percentage of pits owned.

If all dogs are created equal, why so such a high percentage of attacks by pits compared to the percentage owned in the country?

19 posted on 02/15/2010 9:55:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Ask any dog trainer, the dog was just reacting like a dog.

Not so. A Golden would likely lick you to death, after melting into a puddle on the floor from that level of human attention and affection.

20 posted on 02/15/2010 9:57:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Do you know ANYTHING about dogs? Have you ever even owned one? Are you so stupid as to think that ONLY pit bulls bite people? Go ahead, talk to any ER nurse or doctor and ask them how many dog bites they see every month and ask how many were small dogs and how many were pit bulls. I dare you. You will find that most bites occur when a stranger tries to touch a dog.


21 posted on 02/15/2010 10:03:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: metmom

P.S. Look at dog bite statistics. When German Shepherds were the popular “tough dog”, there were more serious bites by them than any other dog. When Doberman Pincers were the popular tough dog, there were more serious bites by them than any other. And now for the last 20 years, the pit bull has been the tough dog to have and guess what, the more popular they are, the more people are bitten.


22 posted on 02/15/2010 10:07:10 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: metmom

And a Chihuahua would probably bite you. Small dogs are much more likely to bite.


23 posted on 02/15/2010 10:08:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: metmom; Chet 99
Or are you saying that pits comprise the vast majority of dogs owned so that the percentage of attacks reported coincides completely with the percentage of pits owned.
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From what I've learned pits make up about 3-6% owned,,,

Responsible for about 60% of Killing and Maulings,,,

Not simple bites,,,

The bills for this little girl will be in the thousands

before she is fixed up,,,

Guess who gets to pay the Bill...?...

24 posted on 02/15/2010 10:29:06 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Fine. Here’s some dog bite statistics.....

http://www.washingtoninjuryattorneyblog.com/2009/08/2009_pit_bull_dog_bite_statist_1.html

http://www.dogsbite.org/blog/2009/08/mid-year-results-us-pit-bull-attacks.html

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

“According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed—and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.”

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If all dogs are created equal, then pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes must comprise about 70% of the dogs owned in this country. Where are they then? Because I don’t notice that more than 2 out or every 3 dogs I see are those breeds.


25 posted on 02/15/2010 10:35:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Typical anything defender tactics, exaggeration and misrepresentation.

Nobody is saying that ONLY pits attack or bite people or that ONLY pits are capable of inflicting serious injury. Just that they do it disproportionately to their numbers and injure people much more severely that other breeds.

There’s a big difference between a dog which may nip at someone out of fright and a dog which shreds people or other animals and has to be beaten off.

Yes, both are technically bites, but they are not the same category at all.


26 posted on 02/15/2010 10:40:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

So you are saying that aggressive dogs tend to bite more? Whodathunkit? You must be Captain Obvious incognito.

Now, go to the CDC website and look back 20 and 30 years and you will find that the dogs that had the most sever bites were the most popular aggressive breeds.


27 posted on 02/15/2010 10:41:53 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: freedumb2003
Statistics be good. ;^)

2,000 children are killed every year by their parents, through abuse and neglect (A child is 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a “Pit Bull”)

28 posted on 02/15/2010 11:11:37 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: TigersEye; freedumb2003

I wonder what the stats would look like if every child lived with a pit bull.


29 posted on 02/15/2010 11:36:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I suppose if you change the facts the statistics would change too.


30 posted on 02/15/2010 11:46:17 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: RC one; Blood of Tyrants

I just checked dog attacks on google

a few entries....rotts, shepherds, mongrels and yes a pitbull attack in Indianapolis

there was the boy samurai story saving his shepherd-pit mix from the lion or whatever

Chet only posts pitbull attacks..other dog attacks don’t measure up

no doubt some pits will bite yer ass and can kill old folks and children but so can quite a few other breeds

given who often owns them (gangsta dog fighters and cracker dog fighters) and that now they are a problem in urban areas when before back when blacks were afraid of dogs more so...yes call me racist but Bull Conner memories linger trust me....it was more rare.

I do think the terrier in pits make them more dicey...I will give Chet that....I do not own one but I do own a Bulldog Matiff mix called a Scott Southern Bulldog...folks would love to fight them too I fear* and I’ve owned a dozen large guard breeds....they are all dangerous potentially...and if Chet gets his way even if unintended they will all be banned except for police and museums or forced nut cutting...so I oppose Selective Breed bans...but on the other hand...dense urban areas might have a need to shoot ghetto pits unleashed nor rural area the same if livestock killed though Chet’s postings notwithstanding pits are more likely to kill other pets

* pits used for fighting tend to be smallish and rangy with more stamina...these squatty, big headed fat monsters are just for show

** I like pits well enough but I was hesitant with small children and cats...although I know some that do fine...my wife laid down the love law....easy choice...sides our Scott “Bedford”...named after guess who..lol..is a peach...a big black one

*** I’m over at Winstead Hill park the other day walking said Bully and a dude in a volvo gets out with 4 peekapoos all off leash hopping around...I had my boy on a lead and he was heeling great for his first real atempt...incredible really but I though what if it was some farmboy with his pit off leash...then what insatead of me...that peek owner woulda had a sad day and it woulda been his irresponsibilty too?


31 posted on 02/16/2010 12:09:53 AM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

just like smallish men are more likely to be giant killers when they drink

I’m 6’5” ...I know


32 posted on 02/16/2010 12:10:49 AM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: TigersEye

most dangerous thing in a child’s life is a live in boyfriend

mommies should think about dat


33 posted on 02/16/2010 12:12:49 AM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: wardaddy
Probably so. These statistics are also from that link...

1 out of every 37 people in the U. S. is a convicted felon
there are a half million registered sex offenders, many whose whereabouts are unknown…
50 people every DAY are murdered (humans are certainly a dangerous animal)

34 posted on 02/16/2010 12:19:20 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: wardaddy
I think most terriers were bred to be fearless to the point of stupid, vicious, unyielding, and completely domineering. They aren't overly trainable and it's difficult to overcome their genetic predisposition to kill things just like it would be difficult to overcome a golden retriever’s genetic predisposition to fetch things. Golden retrievers retrieve things, that's what they do. Terriers kill things, that's what they do. They don't herd, they don't retrieve, they don't point, they close in on other animals and kill them and when they have a bad day, people can get killed. When a beagle has a bad day, on the other hand, somebody just gets bit- maybe. Now, with the pit bull, you basically have the king of all terriers. All those traits that make terriers the best at what they do are put together in an 80 lb package and an 80 lb pitbull can and will tear another dog or a human to pieces. If you aren't an experienced and dedicated dog handler and you aren't willing to invest the necessary time and energy to overcome this animal's natural born killer instincts, you shouldn't have one IMO because this is not a normal dog. I would never want to see this breed made extinct but I would like to see some serious regulations regarding their ownership. I have been working with dogs for decades. I could train a pit bull do be a great dog, I have no doubt but I've seen too many terriers go bad from people who didn't understand the nature of these animals and who didn't invest the necessary time and energy into the animals training. What's worse, I've seen too many people encourage this dog to indulge its instincts such that it is a threat to any other animals or even people that come near it. Bottom line, they need regulated to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands.
35 posted on 02/16/2010 3:33:37 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

cocker spaniels don’t kill people.


36 posted on 02/16/2010 3:35:07 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: TigersEye

Percentages show a more accurate picture.

Every child has a caretaker. Not every child lives with one or two pit bulls.

I also couldn’t help but wonder what the stats would look like if you took the mother’s boyfriend out of the mix.


37 posted on 02/16/2010 6:23:19 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Dogsbite.org is a hate site that was made by a woman who has admitted to having mental problems that affect her ability to make rational judgments. She was also known by the moniker “bitbypit” a full year before she was supposedly attacked. She builds websites for a living, and if you try to post any information on her site that doesn’t fit with her agenda, you can be sure it will disappear and you will be banned from the site. She also charges money to send messages, which I don’t think should qualify her for non-profit status. Another thing, the reputable studies on her site actually go against what she’s trying to accomplish, but she took several quotes out of context and regularly uses them to make the studies look like they prove her points. Very shady, crazy woman. She has also been involved in a lawsuit because she is so hateful that she regularly writes nasty and totally false things about professionals that use pit bulls for education and assistance.

The Merritt-Clifton study has been debunked by other experts as completely useless. The man who conducted this study left out a large percentage of attacks, and for the record, is not a biologist, dog behaviorist, or anything that could possibly give him status as a reputable source. He is the editor of a dog magazine. What’s worse, in his “study”, he describes pit bulls as having “customarily” docked tails, which is absolutely wrong, glaringly so. Some will crop the ears, but the tails remain. I do believe this man was mixing up his breeds, and for someone who works on a dog magazine, that’s pretty sad, IMO.

Here are some reputable studies if you are interested:

www.cdc.gov - There is a study on here that is decades-long, not the 2005-2006 one. It does have a table of breeds responsible for human fatalities, which is what people like the dogsbite woman use out of context, but if you actually read the study in its entirety, you will see that they put owner irresponsibility as the number one cause for dog attacks.

www.atts.org - This site is for the results of tests on unprovoked aggression. You can see where dogs of your preferred breed rank against the average, as well as pit bull-types, which score consistently better than many “friendly” breeds.

www.chako.org - This site is a wealth of information regarding responsible dog ownership, as well as a section for attacks by dogs that may get overlooked by the national media circuits.

www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com - This site has a book that is free to read and has comprehensive information from a century ago to today regarding the dog bite issue, including information about the public’s view of the first documented “thug” dog, the bloodhound. This breed was viewed much like the pit bull is today, only in the 1800’s after it became popular with people that shouldn’t have owned it.

www.kcdogblog.com - This site lists all the dog bite fatalities from last year, including details that were left out of media reports, like the situation surrounding the attack, the poverty level of the area in which the attack took place, and the breed of dog as described by both the media and (when available) the animal control officers.


38 posted on 02/16/2010 7:26:15 AM PST by solosmoke
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To: metmom

“If all dogs are created equal, then pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes must comprise about 70% of the dogs owned in this country. Where are they then? Because I don’t notice that more than 2 out or every 3 dogs I see are those breeds.”

Actually, pit bull-type dogs are the majority of medium to large breeds right now. Some estimates put them at ten million strong, and the total pop. of all breeds is about 76 million. They outnumber every other breed in shelters, they are in papers, on craigslist, and at Wal-Mart for $20 or free, as they are saturating the dog market. Back when german shepherds were the most popular breed, they were also in the news all the time and represented the majority for serious attacks. German shepherds make excellent pets, but like pit bulls, need a strong-minded owner that is willing to put in the effort for socialization, training, and exercise, as well as keeping the dog safely contained. Responsible ownership is the key to preventing dog attacks.


39 posted on 02/16/2010 7:33:10 AM PST by solosmoke
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To: RC one

your intentions are well explained and intended but pits are already regulated in many places and outright banned

if this trend continues eventually all guard type dogs will get the same treatment

in some jurisdictions they already are...Rotts and Dogos seem to alwasy be up there on the list...most Molassers

it’s a slippery slope just like there were once just smoking sections and once homosexuals just wanted to be free to practice sex in their bedrooms and once it was only about regulating Thompson submachine guns or just giving blacks the right to vote.....compasssion for illegals becomes amnesty for 30 million to give the Dems a lock’’’.now look where all that went

Every decent intention that involved restricting freedom gets out of hand given the weak metality of many in America today

maybe there is something...I’m just not sure what it is


40 posted on 02/16/2010 8:59:13 AM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: Chet 99

lol..u wouldn’t post the owner if he weren’t so uglee


41 posted on 02/16/2010 8:59:49 AM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The problem with pits is that they have a horrid genetic background and do what they were bred for generations for. Attack and don't stop. Big difference between a dog bite, that can be done by any dog...Dog attacks are an entirely different situation. Temperament is totally unpredictable.

They attach at a whim, even the members of the family that owns them...

42 posted on 02/16/2010 9:39:47 AM PST by goat granny
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To: solosmoke

OK. Thanks for the heads up on that.

I am cautious around anything that I can’t drop kick but when a dog is known to be bred for aggressiveness, I am even more suspicious. I’ve never seen a retriever who didn’t like water, a golden who didn’t like people; a border collie that didn’t try to herd anything, a husky who didn’t love the cold and snow and pulling things.

Training can’t eliminate those inane traits in other dogs, so I am skeptical that training can eliminate aggressiveness to a sufficient degree to enable me to trust breeds like pits.

A simple bite is one thing, any dog can and does nip if it’s frightened or threatened, but the way I’ve seen and heard of pits which keep going when other breeds can be convinced to let go, concerns me.

I would never own such a high maintenance dog nor one who I wasn’t sure I could trust.


43 posted on 02/16/2010 10:03:32 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

They are a high maintenance dog, much like many other working breeds. Unfortunately, many who have these dogs shouldn’t. However, I believe it is a testament to the breed that of millions, an infinitesimally small percentage have caused harm. But we read about these things daily, which is often why people are so angry. The sad thing is, there are 13 thousand dog attacks in this country every single day that don’t end up on the news, and some of them are downright nasty. It’s really too bad that the media gets to pick and choose what they will report. Since they have no obligation to do anything but make more money, they have a tendency to report on the stories that will get the most ratings, and as horrible as it may be for a dalmation to attack someone and give them stitches, for example, it isn’t considered newsworthy.

Another common misconception is that pit bulls bite differently, or that their bite is somehow stronger than other dogs. This has also been proven wrong by using a computerized bite sleeve to measure psi in several breeds.

It has come to my attention through these various media reports that even single-bite incidents involving pit bulls are marketed as full-on attacks, often with eye-catching story titles.There are just as many nips involving this breed as the next, but the difference is that pit bull bites are reported in the media, and other breeds are ignored or excused, very rarely reported. The KC dog blog goes into detail on this, showing how many different newspapers reported fatality incidents. It shows that pit bull deaths are reported several times more often than deaths caused by other breeds. It’s not a conspiracy, just business.


44 posted on 02/16/2010 10:36:05 AM PST by solosmoke
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To: solosmoke

I wouldn’t trust a Dalmatian either. They are not good people or kid dogs. I knew someone who had a pair once and they were aggressive as all get out. They had to constantly warn kids who saw the dogs and wanted to pet them to NOT TOUCH THEM, under any circumstances.

That is so not worth the risk.


45 posted on 02/16/2010 10:39:40 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
I would never own such a high maintenance dog nor one who I wasn’t sure I could trust.

I totally agree. I think that people need to think long & hard about the dog they decide to own. So many people buy on a whim, see a cute puppy in the mall & buy it. Cute puppy grows up & they can't handle it. Not just pits but many breeds.

I bred Dobermans & there were times I refused to sell to people. Same now with the Shih tzu I have. I also would never buy from a puppy store as most of their puppies come from the puppy mills. I don't care if they have papers, puppy mills are terrible. Most of the pups are sick etc. People need to make sure a dog fits their lifestyle. If they want a large breed or working dog then they need to have the space & the time to work with it. And realize they have to do the things that will keep the dog happy. Dogs know what their jobs are. So many times a dog is unhappy because it isn't getting the attention it needs.

I would love to have Dobermans again but Joe doesn't trust them. I can't get it through his head my dogs saved my life in 1982. He refuses to believe they can be trusted. He likes pits & rotties & I don't. So here we are with Shih tzu & a pekashih.

I worked in shelters & I saw too many dogs be surrendered because people didn't have a clue how to deal with their dog. Had they done the research before buying maybe there wouldn't be so many homeless dogs. I've been bitten plenty of times & if a dog becomes a biter I have no problem with it being put down. I don't understand people who know their dog will bite & have children yet keep the dog.

46 posted on 02/16/2010 10:46:09 AM PST by pandoraou812 (Alcohol/drug/dementia testing ought to be mandatory for politicians.)
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To: metmom

You brought up a great point. They became popular after the 101 Dalmatians movie came out, and were being bred by lots of people that shouldn’t have. They didn’t care about the temperament or health of the parents, and their breeding practices produced a lot of dogs that were not a good representation of the breed. They were the number one biters for a while, and during that time we got an awful lot of them at the shelter.

I remember having to restrain a one-year old dal that was being euthed (it peed on the carpet and the people didn’t train it, they got another one). When people stop treating dogs like children and take responsibility for their dogs’ behavior, we will see a decline in attacks of all breeds. There are some great dalmatians out there, and they represent the majority, just like with pit bulls. The minority that cause harm, however, is the only thing most people see, so that is what they believe is true for all, IMO.


47 posted on 02/16/2010 11:58:51 AM PST by solosmoke
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To: metmom

Then again; if there were a pitbull in every child’s house what would happen to the stats of caretakers abusing and killing the children? Dogs are very protective and have a keen sense of who the victim is and who is the predator.


48 posted on 02/16/2010 1:38:54 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: TigersEye

Just sayin’ that straight out numbers don’t tell the whole story.

I can’t print what should be done to the boyfriends......


49 posted on 02/16/2010 1:53:41 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RC one

Need regulated so they to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands?
Well, its worked with guns and drugs, let’s give it a try lib.
Can’t you come up with something that would work?


50 posted on 02/17/2010 5:02:42 PM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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