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Vanity | 2/16/2010 | Vanity

Posted on 02/16/2010 9:56:20 AM PST by RobRoy

When Star Wars first came out, it was a quantum leap beyond anything I had ever seen in a theater before. I ended up watching it 26 times in the theater. I have not had that experience since - until today. In 3D and Imax, I saw Avatar.

Yes, I know the liberal "love the trees BS" message people say it has, but it is science fantasy. Sure, the parallels between the indigenous "people" of the planet and the American Indians and simple tribal cultures of planet earth and their various forms of nature worship were thick enough to cut with a knife. But...this was not earth. In this fantasy world, their beliefs were based on the reality of their world.

But the imagination of whoever created this story was truly appreciated by me. It was a visual extravaganza, and twisted in some very good and interesting ways, regarding how another world may be different in ways most of us never thought of. The political message was stupid, right down to their using the phrase "shock and awe" to describe the attack. But stripping away the ludicrous attempt at an over-simplified - and terribly wrongheaded - cultural parallel with our world, the movie was an amazing thing to behold.

It used CGI in subtle but incredibly effective was that, just as we have been told in various reviews of the movie, a true "next generation" application of the technology. Actually, it may have skipped a couple of generations.

I give credit where credit is due. There was not a boring moment in the film. The pace was fast, but not too fast. The story was compelling and there were very emotional moments in the film. It kept me interested for the entire 180 minutes. I would recommend it to anyone.

Ignore the "man is in the forest" nonsense and this will blow you away. Skip the popcorn and soda. You won't need it. Just sit back and prepare to almost literally enter another world - A world of incredible danger, beauty, and adventure, the memory of which you will carry for the rest of your life.


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1 posted on 02/16/2010 9:56:20 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy

I’ve been meaning to see it as well, it sounds awesome.


2 posted on 02/16/2010 9:58:09 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: RobRoy

How does it rate on the Joe Bob Briggs scale (number of explosions, number of breats)?


3 posted on 02/16/2010 9:58:19 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: RobRoy
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You're not planning on seeing it another 25 times are you?

It was visually impressive.

But the movie itself?

Not very good.

Just my opinion.
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4 posted on 02/16/2010 9:58:49 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Army Air Corps

breats = breasts


5 posted on 02/16/2010 9:59:02 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

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No breats — none.
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6 posted on 02/16/2010 9:59:10 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Ditto—


7 posted on 02/16/2010 10:00:07 AM PST by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: RobRoy

Leni Riefenstahl’s “Triumph of the Will” was also a very well-made and artistic film. Since Hitler is now safely dead, I’d rather watch that.


8 posted on 02/16/2010 10:00:18 AM PST by devere
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Explosions? People or aliens snuffing it in a particularly interesting way?


9 posted on 02/16/2010 10:00:28 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: RobRoy

I thought it was ok. The story was silly and certain parts were unexplainable to me, shooting with guns?? a taped together “daisy cutter”... the CGI was pretty cool, i loved the flying scenes, the dragons etc...
overall i gave it a C...


10 posted on 02/16/2010 10:00:33 AM PST by wyowolf ("we were the winners , cause we didn't know we could fail.")
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To: RobRoy
"Skip the popcorn and soda."

...From my hot, buttery fingers.

11 posted on 02/16/2010 10:01:33 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Army Air Corps

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Yes and yes.

Lots of explosions.

I was rooting for the humans.

Hated to see them lose.
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12 posted on 02/16/2010 10:04:34 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: RobRoy
But the imagination of whoever created this story was truly appreciated by me.

Imagination!! LOL!

Avatar vs Pocahontas

13 posted on 02/16/2010 10:04:40 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: RobRoy

Get past the message and focus on the movie and it’s quite an experience. I enjoyed it.


14 posted on 02/16/2010 10:06:44 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I enjoyed it also. You could look at the corporation behind the evil as a government run one like GM. There were a lot of cluse that they were a government run entity, like Obama Motors. People tend to miss the fact that the soldiers were mercenaries, not US soldiers. Their loyalty was to their pay, not to a country.


15 posted on 02/16/2010 10:15:35 AM PST by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Basically, turn off the sound and play a list of your favourite music and turn this into a really long music video.


16 posted on 02/16/2010 10:16:06 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: RobRoy

I loved it. I recognized the liberal love the trees stuff too, but just let it go and enjoyed the scenery and the story.


17 posted on 02/16/2010 10:18:44 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: RobRoy

I wasn’t going to see it. For many of the reasons explained above. I went last Sunday and have been mind blown ever since. This isn’t just a movie. It is a technological mind twisting marvel. Put cotton in your ears if you have to and just go LOOK at it. Remember the people that were depressed because they wanted to live on Pandora. NO ONE will not want to visit that world. IT IS BREATH TAKING.

I hate the PC nonsense, but guys and gals, if you don’t see this on the big screen, you’re missing it. Most of all you’re missing being 12 again.

Simply defies adjectives.


18 posted on 02/16/2010 10:18:54 AM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: humblegunner
It is very good, I too was very enthusiastic after I saw it, but on reflection it is the 3D that makes it so great.
The story is pretty much classic cowboys and indians with a twist.
19 posted on 02/16/2010 10:19:53 AM PST by Jolla
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To: RobRoy
3D animation, 1D characters

The 3D animation was awesome. It was like you could reach out and touch what you were seeing, or you could walk right into the scene.

The storyline and characters, Zzzzzzzzz.

What might be cool is to just listen to your favorite music on headphones while watching the movie.

20 posted on 02/16/2010 10:30:33 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Be strip-searched by scanners! Buy ObamaCare or go to jail! The Totalitarians are in charge!!!)
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To: Jolla

My wife and I simply loved it. Seldom have I found myself so immersed in a movie.

It must be seen on the big screen (if not IMAX), and in 3D - otherwise don’t bother.

I disagree with the diss to popcorn. Even Heaven better have good movie theater popcorn. :)


21 posted on 02/16/2010 10:32:28 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: RobRoy

If Scully hadn’t been so busy “going native,” he might’ve saved some lives.


22 posted on 02/16/2010 10:33:11 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Army Air Corps
Basically, turn off the sound and play a list of your favourite music and turn this into a really long music video.

I wonder if it synchs-up wth Dark Side of the Moon better than "The Wizard of Oz"?

23 posted on 02/16/2010 10:33:35 AM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: RobRoy

You saw “Dances with Blue Wolves”?


24 posted on 02/16/2010 10:34:12 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Charles Martel

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Does it? Hmmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlY-JlE5ZCo
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25 posted on 02/16/2010 10:40:25 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: RobRoy
I back all of what you said. My wife and I loved it for the same reasons.

It's a fantasy people and a damn good one at that. Honestly, my two sons praised it up so high that I went in with negative expectations. It just blew me away

26 posted on 02/16/2010 10:41:07 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican
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To: RobRoy

I told the wife that the DVD will not sell well as it will not be worth watching unless in IMAX 3D.


27 posted on 02/16/2010 10:42:14 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: RobRoy


Why not just rent this? Same difference.
28 posted on 02/16/2010 10:43:25 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

IF you can get past the weak, hackneyed story,
and IF you can see past the shallow cartoon characters,
and IF you can overlook the in your face leftism,
then I suppose it’s not a bad display of CG.

This movie stinks on ice.


29 posted on 02/16/2010 10:49:49 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: RobRoy

I felt similar.
The visuals were fantastic however the story seemed to be very close to “The Abyss”.


30 posted on 02/16/2010 10:51:28 AM PST by Zathras
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To: RobRoy
I ended up watching it 26 times in the theater.

I sure hope you've found a girl friend since then.

31 posted on 02/16/2010 11:07:33 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: RobRoy

I thought the movie was visually incredible, but the story dragged on and on, especially since the cliched nature of the plot told you how it was all going to end right from the get-go. There are only so many times you can see space butterflies come at you from the screen before it loses its magic, so you need a decent story to keep the interest. This movie didn’t have that.


32 posted on 02/16/2010 11:09:47 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: RobRoy

When Star Wars first came out, it was so over-sold that, when I finally saw it in theater, I asked, “That’s it?”. Special effects, but ooh, the acting! Like in a big high-school’s senior play. Well, wifey wanted to see “Blue Pocahantas, or The Last Samurai Dances with Ferngully Wolves in Space” for Valentine’s Day. Computer-puppet “acting” wasn’t as wooden as the action-figures-like SW, but, how many hours does it take to tell such a simple story!?


33 posted on 02/16/2010 11:10:55 AM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: CalvaryJohn
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You probably noticed but...everything on that planet had six legs. Except the blue “people”.

And every creature had the USB connectors coming out of their heads. Except the blue "people". They had the connectors in their ....uh....hindquarters.

Guess I should never have gone to college because that evolutionary discrepancy bothered me for three hours.
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34 posted on 02/16/2010 11:14:08 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: RobRoy

I’m glad you posted this. I, too had bought in to the many righty posts and blogs that told me the leftist overtones would prevent me from enjoying Avatar.

Well, with small kids, my wife and I rarely have an opportunity to have a date night with a movie. I was determined to make this past Saturday one of those. We had intended to watch The Lovely Bones, but the online schedule didn’t match what we found when we got to the theater. We had to choose something else and reluctantly chose Avatar in 3-D.

We were BLOWN AWAY! I don’t remember ever being so immersed in a film that I forgot I was sitting in a theater. Long periods would go by that only my verbal expressions of “Whoaaaa” brought me back.

I “get” the whole message and the many examples of Cameron poking his finger in my conservative eye. But if you really want to get $15 worth of great movie-going experience, Avatar will NOT disappoint.

So there are two characters who are total Azzhats. Witnessing their obstetric proclivities makes their assured come-uppance all that more satisfying. Other than that, the CG eye candy is SEAMLESS and impressive.

I really pity those here who are so entrenched in ideology that they can’t experience 2 1/2 hours of fantasy film making which sets a new standard.

We both can’t wait to take our 11-year-old son to experience this in IMAX 3-D.

No, it’s not Citizen Kane, but for an entertainment value, sci-fi fans (or even just good movie fans) can’t go wrong watching Avatar.


35 posted on 02/16/2010 11:18:18 AM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

I didn’t expect the movie to be good, other than special effects. But that may be why I enjoyed it so much - it exceeded my expectations.

Before it started, I washed my mind of concerns about political statements, etc., and watched it like I would read a good science fiction novel. On that level, it really delivered.

Just taking the characters and settings at face value I really liked the story.


36 posted on 02/16/2010 11:25:42 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Army Air Corps

Not as many explosions as a Star Wars movie, but there are some good pyrotechnics in the last third.

Arrows don’t explode. :)


37 posted on 02/16/2010 11:26:35 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Army Air Corps

Well, if you are into smallish blue breasts on a clearly alien creature, there were quite a few “nipple slips”.


38 posted on 02/16/2010 11:27:33 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Loved the cinematography. Hated the plot.

I was rooting for the colonel dude in the walking robot at the end. :-)


39 posted on 02/16/2010 11:28:54 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

>>I was rooting for the humans.

Hated to see them lose.<<

In the reality of this movie, the humans needed to lose.

I compare the world in this movie a bit to some of the worlds in the somewhat Christian novel, A Wrinkle in Time.

If a world such as the one in Avatar actually existed, we would do best to leave the people be. In this movie, we were the equivalent of the aliens in Independence day.

But again, it is only fantasy. Nothing in our reality relates to this movie. There is a huge difference between a culture that worships their mother nature that they physically plug into and a culture that worships a mother nature that is a figment of their imagination.

One is doing the right thing, the other is woefully ignorant. This movie was about the former.


40 posted on 02/16/2010 11:31:19 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy
RedLetterMedia reviews, "Avatar."

Warning: Mild profanity.
41 posted on 02/16/2010 11:33:10 AM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

I thought I was the only one! The 6-limbed creatures/4-limbed humanoid thing bothered me for a few hours after the movie, too.

Gee, if we weren’t assaulted on every front with the “news” that liberals are so much smarter than conservatives, one might wonder if James Cameron didn’t know what the heck evolution was or why he believed in it...


42 posted on 02/16/2010 11:33:30 AM PST by shy.invisible.grl
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To: qam1

I, myself, compared this to Pocahontas. The imagination I am speaking of is the visual world they occupy and the aspects that are not in Pocahontas. I saw the comparison of the two movies a few weeks ago. The story lines are very similar and, at a high level, typical of this sort of story.

As I mentioned earlier, it is even similar to Independence day.

Heck, where do you think the phrase “does the boy get the girl” come from? :)


43 posted on 02/16/2010 11:33:42 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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>>The story is pretty much classic cowboys and indians with a twist.<<

...and one of the reasons I compared it to Star Wars. ;)


44 posted on 02/16/2010 11:35:32 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: martin_fierro

Warning!!!! Spoiler!!!

He saved a lot of lives. And an entire culture. From what I saw, the “planet” would have won in the end anyway. He accelerated the time line.


45 posted on 02/16/2010 11:37:21 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Spot-on, Rob.

This was an alien world that RELIES on the synergy between all forms of life—the trees, the animals, the people and their spirituality. It’s the lack of even attempting to understand this was the humans’ downfall.

It’s different here on Earth. Liberals’ attempts to make it so are THEIR downfall.


46 posted on 02/16/2010 11:38:12 AM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: pabianice

>>You saw “Dances with Blue Wolves”?<<

Yep. Except on this planet, the wolves were clearly in the right. Mind you, they were TOO perfect. They were actually more like sinless animals than people. Heck, they barely made tools. ‘Course, they didn’t need them. When they got sick or broke a leg they died, unless their “planet mother” healed them, which is always possible.

The rules on this planet and reality were completely different than in our world. The Planet Mother was real.


47 posted on 02/16/2010 11:39:24 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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“We both can’t wait to take our 11-year-old son to experience this in IMAX 3-D.”

Is it ok for an 11 year old boy? I saw the revue on Pluggedinonline and it mentioned some sex scenes and virtual nudity....


48 posted on 02/16/2010 11:44:30 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Zathras

>>The visuals were fantastic however the story seemed to be very close to “The Abyss”.<<

I’ll be frank: The story was like a LOT of stories. Heck, Star Wars was a western in space. So was Star Trek TOS. And look at all the chick films. I can sum them up as follows (and feel free to exchange the words “boy” and “girl”): Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back.

All stories have similarities to other stories. It is how art works. Artists build new bits of creativity from the creativity of those that went before them. After a decade or century, you may have something barely attached to the original creative root.

I expect story similarites, but good stories have their own unique twist on the “expected”. Avatar did that several times.


49 posted on 02/16/2010 11:49:51 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy
AVATAR = Disney's Pocahantas with better visuals.

There is no doubt the CGI is amazing, and the story is lower than sophomoric.

50 posted on 02/16/2010 11:50:41 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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