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EPA plans to spend $2.2 billion on Great Lakes
Chicago Breaking News ^ | 2.20.10 | Jim Tankersley

Posted on 02/21/2010 5:30:20 AM PST by Thebaddog

Edited on 02/21/2010 5:34:22 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Environmental Protection Agency will spend $2.2 billion over five years on the Great Lakes to clean up polluted water and beaches, restore wetlands and fight invasive species such as Asian carp in a revitalization effort to be detailed Sunday.


(Excerpt) Read more at chicagobreakingnews.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: billions; epa; greatlakes
Electronic waste?

And Cameron Davis is the Great Lakes Czar, FYI.

1 posted on 02/21/2010 5:30:20 AM PST by Thebaddog
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To: Thebaddog

Follow the money. Let’s see who gets the contracts...


2 posted on 02/21/2010 5:32:47 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: mewzilla
Follow the money. Let’s see who gets the contracts...

I bet the list is very similar to those who were involved in Chicago's olympic bid!

3 posted on 02/21/2010 5:36:20 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Thebaddog

these lakes have cleaned up consideraby since the 60s when if you could find a fish in the lakes, you were crazy to eat it.

of course now we need to squash our moon program for this and other bogus socialist spending.

(I do not consider NASA for the most part socialist spending....it is a message to those nations that would do us harm that they would be messing with a potent foe...it is national security and national pride.)


4 posted on 02/21/2010 5:38:00 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Thebaddog
it sets a goal to collect or prevent the release of 45 million pounds of electronic waste

Backdoor carbon regulation. Cap and trade regulation without legislation, to "protect" the environment.

These people must be stopped.

5 posted on 02/21/2010 5:38:24 AM PST by FatherofFive (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud that Massachusettes is part of the United States!)
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To: Thebaddog

If anyone was bought off, I’d say it was the animal rights whack jobs who don’t seem to be raising a fuss over the eradication of an invasive Asian carp.


6 posted on 02/21/2010 5:38:55 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: Thebaddog

Lake Erie came back to life in the 1970’s.


7 posted on 02/21/2010 5:38:57 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: mewzilla

The dollar figure seems way too low for the scale of the lakes. Maybe its just the opening bid.


8 posted on 02/21/2010 5:41:43 AM PST by Thebaddog (Shakey Jake said, " The hippies will never survive!")
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To: bmwcyle
OK, first of all it's only an effort ... kind'a like gettin' an A for tryin'

Secondly, 2.2B is nowhere near sufficient just to clean up beaches, let alone wetlands, a war on invasive species, clean up polluted water ....

I mean, this is the health care bill ... it ain't got nuthin' t'do with the environment ... it's payoff, plain and simple

You know it and I know it.

9 posted on 02/21/2010 5:44:45 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Thebaddog

I have been painted a picture of the great lakes, that I don’t believe exists, but it has been painted never the less.

There are large bureaucratic dollar signs all over the picture of disease, death, destruction, and disaster, that has been painted of the great lakes.

The states of MN, WI, IL, IN, NY, PA, MI, and OH, stand to benefit from the federal largess. How much will O’Canada benefit by being the other fifty percent of the lake shore. Suppose she is going to pony up? How much of the sky is falling, is she buying into.


10 posted on 02/21/2010 5:45:17 AM PST by wita
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To: Thebaddog
And check out the last sentence in the article. Is the person who said it making the suggestion that even after spending 2 billion dollars, the situation might not even improve?!

Whoa. I smell a 'Rat. A honkin' big one.

Now I really wanna know who's getting that money.

11 posted on 02/21/2010 5:45:37 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: knarf

AMEN


12 posted on 02/21/2010 5:46:54 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: Thebaddog
But how can this be? We passed the clean water act years ago!!!! It must be that water is too easy to buy. We need a 10 day waiting period and strict laws preventing yuts from owning water. Inner city water violence is out of control and needs to be stopped. No water from the South should enter Chicago without the proper fess and backround checks.
13 posted on 02/21/2010 5:50:01 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: mad_as_he$$
fess=fees. More coffee Miss.
14 posted on 02/21/2010 5:51:28 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Thebaddog

2.2 Billion and the government can’t even stop the Asian Carp. What a waist. Just another way to help the economy go broke. Want to bet Jenny gets a piece of the pie?


15 posted on 02/21/2010 5:59:36 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Thebaddog
Of course, Milwaukee's MMSD which cost billions and dumps millions of gallons of raw sewage into Lake Michigan - every time it rains heavy or a big snow run off - won't see a dime...
16 posted on 02/21/2010 6:08:32 AM PST by PIF
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To: bmwcyle

Yes, Lake Erie was cleaned up very dramatically. However the method used by introducing zebra mussles created whole other problem in itself.


17 posted on 02/21/2010 6:14:20 AM PST by diverteach (D.C. has become Jonestown)
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To: mewzilla; cripplecreek
The Great lakes Restoration will be enabled by the Clean Water Restoration Act 2009 (S. 787)

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s787/show

This bill will place ALL waters in the US under control of the EPA. That means every trickle, stream (including intermittent ones), pond, lake, drainage ditch, bog, cow hoof print that collects water.......AND significant amounts of the lands that abut any of the above (buffer zones).

The EPA is totally out of control!

18 posted on 02/21/2010 6:19:44 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

See post # 18


19 posted on 02/21/2010 6:20:28 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: diverteach

Did they put them there or did they hitch a ride?


20 posted on 02/21/2010 6:43:21 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: Thebaddog

Seems to be they’re promising billions of dollars to do some things that have already been done and a couple of things that SHOULD have been done but were prevented by “animal rights activists”. Obama can claim he created or saved X number of jobs.


21 posted on 02/21/2010 7:11:49 AM PST by cake_crumb (Can we impeach him NOW??)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Ant aren’t zebra mussles still a problem, because every scheme they came up with to eradicate the buggers was claimed to be damaging to some part of the environment?


22 posted on 02/21/2010 7:16:35 AM PST by cake_crumb (Can we impeach him NOW??)
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To: Thebaddog
fight invasive species such as Asian carp

One more example of Obama working both sides of an issue. Just last month he stepped in to prevent a Michigan lawsuit over the asian carp.
23 posted on 02/21/2010 7:21:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: bmwcyle
The zebra mussels came in on foreign freighters who then pumped them out into the lake with the ballast water. They really did clear up the water because they are filter feeders, but it was feared they would upset the ecological balance by displacing domestic species. Their effect has been mixed, with benefits to various fish species who feed on the mussels, and plant life flourishing in the brighter light of the clearer water.

Fishing in Lake Erie has been great for the last twenty years or more. Aside from the threat of Asian carp which haven't got there yet, the biggest problems these days are algal blooms creating dead zones in summer, and layers of toxic waste in the lakebed. Even the Cuyahoga River has a healthy diverse fish popluation.

24 posted on 02/21/2010 7:21:51 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Roccus
significant amounts of the lands that abut any of the above

In other words, the entire state of Michigan and significant portions of every other great lake bordering state.
25 posted on 02/21/2010 7:25:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

My girlfriend in college in 1975 did a paper on the lake. She found the programs back then that were improving the lake. Laws have not become less to clean things up. Our country is better but it is now about control and not about wildlife.


26 posted on 02/21/2010 7:27:32 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: Roccus
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Notice that Obama picks an old pal from Chicago to control the money for this "clean up".
27 posted on 02/21/2010 7:30:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Great lakes screw job.


28 posted on 02/21/2010 7:40:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: cripplecreek

Just a Don helping another Don.


29 posted on 02/21/2010 8:27:10 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Thebaddog; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


30 posted on 02/21/2010 8:55:59 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Thebaddog

The funny thing is that the obama administration has been working to stop efforts to prevent Asian carp from entering Lake Michigan. That’s the only thing that really needs to be done. The problem is that it would require major changes for Chicago.

I was talking with a biologist who specializes in the Great Lakes and his assessment of the lakes was that they were immeasurably better than they were 30 years ago, except for the introduction of alien species. The water is cleaner, there is about 1 percent of the pollution entering the water and there is a strong consensus among those bordering the lakes to keep them clean.

His real concern is that people “believe” that the lakes are in a downward spiral that no one can stop. He is very concerned about the impact of environmental fatigue caused by the incessant panics and propaganda. He has found that his students believe that the lakes are worse now than they were 30 years ago even though the evidence shows a gigantic improvement.


31 posted on 02/21/2010 9:06:56 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: cake_crumb

The Zebra Mussels are largely gone, destroyed by another invasive species, the Quagga Mussel.


32 posted on 02/21/2010 9:09:55 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Roccus

33 posted on 02/21/2010 9:17:26 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I’ll tell ya one thing. If the EPA tries to enforce a buffer zone along the stream that runs through my property,.....you are gonna read about it in the papers and see it on TV.


34 posted on 02/21/2010 9:20:26 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: MediaMole
The funny thing is that the obama administration has been working to stop efforts to prevent Asian carp from entering Lake Michigan.

That's Obama alright. He'll prevent efforts to do something then take billions of dollars in the name of doing exactly what he stopped.
35 posted on 02/21/2010 10:10:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: MediaMole

If you can find sources re the health of the great lakes, we should start circulating them. Your comments are very interesting.


36 posted on 02/21/2010 12:06:33 PM PST by Thebaddog (Shakey Jake said, " The hippies will never survive!")
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