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What if "Birthers" were "Age-ers"?
The Post & Email ^ | February 19, 2010 | Sally Vendée

Posted on 02/21/2010 6:47:28 AM PST by kyright

Everyone knows, or should by now with all of the “birther” hullabaloo, Article II of the Constitution and its three requirements for the Commander-in-Chief: He must be a “natural born Citizen,” at least thirty-five years old, and have resided for at least fourteen years within the United States.

Most Americans, according to the media, accept Obama’s alleged place of birth as Hawaii and his US citizenship. Many, though, especially in “tea party” circles, express frustration with his seeming lack of “transparency,” want to see more than the short-form birth certificate posted on the internet, and ask questions like: “Where do we put the plaque?” Everyday Americans must show a birth certificate and other credentials to get jobs, drivers’ licenses, loans, passports, play on sports teams, etc., and they wish that Obama would just present his so we can get on with it. These viewpoints earn them the dreaded label of “birther.”

The majority of “birthers” consider themselves “Constitutionalists,” and whether or not they have questions about Obama’s Hawaiian birth, they do have reservations about the “natural born” part— because of his Kenyan father, who was not an immigrant and never a US citizen, resulting in Obama Jr. admittedly being a dual citizen at birth. Scholars and attorneys could debate the definition of “natural born” for hours. Combine that question with the current political correctness of birthright citizenship, dual citizenship/allegiance and immigration, and the arguments become even more heated.

But what if the eligibility issue was much simpler to grasp: What if it had to do with the simplest of the three Presidential criteria—Age?

Imagine this:...

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Test Topic, Ignore It
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; constitution; eligibility; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: mojitojoe

The civil war and Southerners, too? Is he a victim? Perhaps that is the source of the chip on his shoulder that led him to fall for all that hope and change stuff which in turn led him to his anti-birther obot job. Affirmative action at work?


41 posted on 02/21/2010 11:07:17 AM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: kyright

I would not classify myself as a “birther” but I do think the POS we call POTUS should release ALL of his documents and records, he needs to in the interest of transparency and truth. The truth, of course, is anathema to BO so we will never see his records. Why anyone would simply take the word of this a**hat is beyond me.


42 posted on 02/21/2010 11:11:05 AM PST by calex59
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To: Natural Born 54

Lincoln too. He is obsessed with Lincoln, hates Southerners and anything that has to do with the South. Those 2 things and the BC are his things. Oh secession, he flips out when anyone mentions that. He’s from Chicago, probably a pal of the Marxist Kenyan.
Check his past posts, pretty interesting. He’s a fly under the radar paid Obot imo.


43 posted on 02/21/2010 11:25:25 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rawcatslyentist
We know more about Joe the Plumber than Barry the Usurper!

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The pilot who slammed into the Austin, Texas IRS building the other day: We know more about him than we know about Obama's 1961 Hawaii birth certificate and Obama's birth hospital.

44 posted on 02/21/2010 11:47:04 AM PST by john mirse
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To: melancholy
Oh, yes, should we be afraid of union and communist-led riots threatening us if we dare to try legally and peacefully to uncover the ghost?

Ah, yes...I had someone point out to me (months ago) that there would be riots and blood in the streets if BO was ousted. Even all that *blood and guts image* they tried to paint didn't sway me one bit.

45 posted on 02/21/2010 11:48:41 AM PST by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: mojitojoe

Best laugh I’ve had all day!!!


46 posted on 02/21/2010 11:51:08 AM PST by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: 70th Division
Most Americans, according to the media, accept Obama’s alleged place of birth as Hawaii

ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA? OH please. Now that is a credible source.

*******

Myself, I am not only interested in whether Obama was or was not born in Hawaii, but I am also deeply interested to learn the name of the birth doctor and the name of the hospital on the 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate.

Obviously, no one, not even the media, can accept or not accept a name of the birth doctor or a name of the birth hospital, because no one outside of Obama and Hawaii officials have seen Obama's long form birth certificate to verify such names.

So, until we see the 1961 long form birth certificate, the name of the birth doctor and the name of the birth hospital cannot be known.

Myself, I don't think there is any doctor name or hospital name on the long form birth certificate, and that is the reason Obama is spending thousands of dollars to desperately try to keep the long form birth certificate out of court.

47 posted on 02/21/2010 12:02:00 PM PST by john mirse
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Prior presidents not rquired to prove citizenship some point out.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Because the natural born status of previous presidents **self evident**!

Armies of citizens would have been honored to testify that they knew the parents, visited the mom and baby soon after birth, and watched the child grow to maturity.

Obama has been unable or unwilling to provide this high level of citizen testimony of his origins. Well?...If he can't have fellow citizens testify ( formally or informally) for him, then it is **REASONABLE** to ask for a paper trail.

48 posted on 02/21/2010 12:23:28 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: reasonisfaith
Taking this hypothetically (which you should be able to do, given that you have nothing to hide and are entirely confident in addressing this for the purposes of discussion), tell me how a poster who in fact was “in the pay of Obama” would behave that is different from the way you behave?

Well, I imagine that they'd be more subtle about it rather than being as obvious about finding Birther's as amusing as I do.

49 posted on 02/21/2010 12:32:32 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mojitojoe

There are a lot of people out there who think that all Birthers are idiots. If that is true then you surely must be their king.


50 posted on 02/21/2010 12:36:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mojitojoe
The funny thing is that you are more obsessed with defending the BC than anyone that believes it has issues. But after all, you are a big attention whore, so who knows..........

No, the truly funny thing is watching people like you flapping your hands and running around in circles, pausing only to latch on to the latest phony birth certificate to surface from Kenya or God knows were or to sing the praises of your judicial goddess, Orly Taitz. That's where the humor comes from.

Obama must be laughing his ass off over this. He certainly owes you a big thank you for your comic relief.

51 posted on 02/21/2010 12:40:17 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Uncle Chip
Oh but that does not include what is paid directly to other law firms and of course the propaganda effort that you are involved in -- which may exceed that paid to the lawyers.

So do you and your buddies get a volume discount on the tinfoil for your hats? Maybe we can get the Senate to pass a non-binding referendum supporting that? Save you a few bucks?

52 posted on 02/21/2010 12:44:23 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Have you found Obama’s SR511 yet???


53 posted on 02/21/2010 12:49:53 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Have you found Obama’s SR511 yet???

If I did and it read "Resolved it is the sense of the Senate that Barack Hussein Obama being born in Hololulu, Hawaii in August 1961 is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president" then would that end the matter for you entirely? It being an official, honest to God non-binding resolution and all?

54 posted on 02/21/2010 12:54:35 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

“I imagine that they’d be more subtle about it”

Wow. That’s more than just a little bit insightful.

How is it you have so much inside knowledge about these things?


55 posted on 02/21/2010 1:03:24 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I didn’t see the word “non-binding” anywhere in that Resolution. Could you point it out.


56 posted on 02/21/2010 1:08:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: kyright

Want to cause a liberal MSM member’s head to explode? Ask them to tell you something about Barak Obama that he has not revealed in his book.


57 posted on 02/21/2010 1:16:30 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: reasonisfaith
How is it you have so much inside knowledge about these things?

Not being a Birther has helped look at these things more dispassionately.

58 posted on 02/21/2010 1:24:47 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Uncle Chip
I didn’t see the word “non-binding” anywhere in that Resolution. Could you point it out.

You haven't a clue on what a non-binding resolution is and what makes it non-binding, do you?

59 posted on 02/21/2010 1:26:07 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: kyright
1) Nobody much younger than 40 is likely to get close to the presidency.

2) A candidate younger than that would likely be part of a wealthy or prominent family and their birthdate would be a matter of public record.

3) Where you went to primary school and when you started is recorded and probably even remembered by somebody. If you looked six at the time, it's not likely that you were actually three or four.

60 posted on 02/21/2010 1:35:37 PM PST by x
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