Skip to comments.What if "Birthers" were "Age-ers"?
Posted on 02/21/2010 6:47:28 AM PST by kyright
Everyone knows, or should by now with all of the birther hullabaloo, Article II of the Constitution and its three requirements for the Commander-in-Chief: He must be a natural born Citizen, at least thirty-five years old, and have resided for at least fourteen years within the United States.
Most Americans, according to the media, accept Obamas alleged place of birth as Hawaii and his US citizenship. Many, though, especially in tea party circles, express frustration with his seeming lack of transparency, want to see more than the short-form birth certificate posted on the internet, and ask questions like: Where do we put the plaque? Everyday Americans must show a birth certificate and other credentials to get jobs, drivers licenses, loans, passports, play on sports teams, etc., and they wish that Obama would just present his so we can get on with it. These viewpoints earn them the dreaded label of birther.
The majority of birthers consider themselves Constitutionalists, and whether or not they have questions about Obamas Hawaiian birth, they do have reservations about the natural born part because of his Kenyan father, who was not an immigrant and never a US citizen, resulting in Obama Jr. admittedly being a dual citizen at birth. Scholars and attorneys could debate the definition of natural born for hours. Combine that question with the current political correctness of birthright citizenship, dual citizenship/allegiance and immigration, and the arguments become even more heated.
But what if the eligibility issue was much simpler to grasp: What if it had to do with the simplest of the three Presidential criteriaAge?
(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...
To me the label of Birther is not dreaded.
I am ashamed that other Americans are willing to take the word of this Kenyan without his allowing them to see the “proof”.
Given that the MSM went through all of Sarah Palin’s financial and personal documents...why are they SO uninterested in Barry’s background?
I am a patriot-oathkeeper-birther
don’t delay join today
We know more about Joe the Plumber than Barry the Usurper!
I believe that this was referred to in the article. A Black Panther Party member was kicked off the ballot because we was not 35. (Some years ago in California, I believe.)
Prior presidents not rquired to prove citizenship some point out. But things change. Often for good reason.
Tens of millions of citizens past were not required to prove citizenship/eligibility to get a job here. But we must.
The I-9 form. Are members of Congress required to sign? The president? Citizenship is specified by the Constitution; 7 years for representatives, 9 years for senators; and natural born for president.
But wait! for those interested there's a new I-9 Form required as of August 7, 2009 (Looks to me that it's being phased out).
New employees will not be required to provide their Social Security Number except where the employer participates in the E-Verify program. (E-Verify also being phased out?)
The requirement for federal contractors to participate in the E-Verify program has been postponed. It's now up to the Obama Administration to decide. Ans: federal contractors will not be required to participate in the E-Verify program (soon to be defunct anyway?).
Other things are no longer required fot I-9.
All it takes in order to have a lawless society is to ignore the laws. It would not be an understatement to say that Obama is working outside of the Constitution.
That's right. We have to release our long form b.c., Mr. President. Why not you?
All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫
By the way,....It is through **individual** people sending this information to everyone they know that the polls now show that in some states those who question Obama’s eligibility is now 50% ( or more!)
Person to person, e-mail to e-mail, Facebook and You tube onward, the American people **know** about the issue. This is **AMAZING**! Americans know despite the near complete media blackout.
There is no possible way that either Republicans or Democrats can tip toe around this great big stinky carcass of road kill blocking the road to the elections.
Most Americans, according to the media, accept Obamas alleged place of birth as Hawaii
ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA? OH please. Now that is a credible source.
If the Secretaries of State would put Obama on the ballot based on his sole word, then Orly should be too!!!
A Birther by any other name is still a Birther.
Except that it would take people about 10 minutes to come up with documented proof she was born overseas. Birthers have been trying for 18 months and haven't been able to accomplish that.
Thanks for the ping, null and void.
Very good read. We’d know more about my husband if he ran for dog catcher than we do about the Kenyan. And he wouldn’t have anything to hide...unlike that *other one*.
It will all come out someday.
The powers that be are determined that our ‘manchurian’ president fit a certain preformulated image and achieve certain goals.
We just to have hang in there and do our best to keep our constitution safe to the best of our ability.
I am not a birther...his birth place is the lest of our worries.
We need to focus on reducing the federal powers and strengthening each state’s ability to resist DC. Vote out progressives in both parties.
I get many emails (regarding this issue) from people that I never would've expected to even CARE about it. Slowly, the message is getting out.
Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God...
We either have a Constitution or we don’t.
Do we actually know he's what they are calling African-American?
I mean, we haven't seen his Birth Certificate so how do we know who his parents really were?
Yeah, I know what he looks like, but maybe he's just "passing". Or maybe he had some plastic surgery like Michael Jackson. We haven't seen his medical records either.
Can he prove he's African-American? How do we know?
Crossin' the highway late last night
He shoulda looked left and he shoulda looked right
He didn't see the station wagon car
The skunk got squashed and there you are!
You got yer
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
You got yer dead skunk in the middle of the road
Stinkin' to high Heaven!...
Hmmmm. Black, check. White, check. B.O., check. And flattened in the polls, check.
He's a Poll-cat.
Slick. Obama uses presidential powers and over a million dollars in legal fees to lock up, of all things, his birth certificate, and you say that birthers can't find anything. LOL! Over a million bucks in legal defense says they found it, all right!
Even so, the birth certificate is a straw man - Obama admits to a British Kenyan father, and while that doesn't necessarily impact his born US citizenship, it does indeed negate ANY possible claim to "natural born" status. That the government refuses to act has nothing to do with the inescapable legitimacy of this simple legal fact.
Hillary Clinton is the she in shenanigans. Obama would have unleashed proof of tons of her wrong doings. Lots of knowledgeable Clinton people, et al worked for him.
.. also, by the time Hillary realized that Obama was likely to beat her the Democratic Party had already committed perjury in all fifty seven states by signing the required forms. (If Obama was ineligible.)
Oh! Think of the good time and laughs we could have with that! :)))
Because the MSM can’t hidt their love for Marx er Obama.
What if “Birthers” were “Age-ers”?
They’d still be “racists”.
To paraphrase Shakespeare:
"Methinks he doth protest too much".
0bama has recruited individuals who are weak minded and those of questionable loyalty to this Country, among whom I include YOU, to act as his official or unofficial "truth squads". These so-called "truth squads" attempt to browbeat or belittle those who do not agree, support or parrot his 0bamaunist Party Line, into submission. This is one of Hussein's favorite tactics because it does not require facts to support the arguments. I will not intimidated in submission.
Besides, since your boy 0bama is a proven liar, although not as adept as Bubba Klintoon, it is only logical that he may be lying about his citizenship status as well. Once a liar, always a liar.
What is more likely -
1. Non-Sequitur never leaves his key board (having a special combination desk chair/potty and a live in caterer) and therefore never ever misses any thread about the “O” and his BC...
2. A government software program is monitoring FR for the use of certain key words (birther, birth certificate, natural born, etc.) and within seconds, Non-Sequitur is notified that his anti-birther services are required online via his blackberry or PC or laptop depending on where is is at the moment...
3. A team of fed. gov. folks at their terminals monitor certain forums with emphasis on FR and lets N.S. know he needs to get on an FR birther thread and do his job...
What do you think - 1, 2 or 3?
His response today took 23 minutes - prompt but not too fast. Maybe wanted to see if the topic had any legs before making his move.
I don’t care whether he’s “really” African-American because there is no constitutional requirement as to race.
There is one as to nationality. And age. That’s what I care about.
Which I have done from the beginning.
(Obama) Your personal ambition should not come before your patriotism.
He has no patriotism to America.
Back to a million bucks? I've heard Birthers claim $2 million or $3 million or more.
Even so, the birth certificate is a straw man - Obama admits to a British Kenyan father, and while that doesn't necessarily impact his born US citizenship, it does indeed negate ANY possible claim to "natural born" status.
So you say. Yet there is no legislation or Supreme Court decision that makes your statement true.
That the government refuses to act has nothing to do with the inescapable legitimacy of this simple legal fact.
Maybe they just don't agree with you?
All this contentious one-track dialogue concentrating on 0kaka’s BC is going to go on and on until some Congressmen/Senators start demanding full disclosure of the usurpers documents.
Until then, if it ever happens, we should demand ALL his other documents, mainly his school records.
0b0z0 and his media enablers demonized the Constitutionalists by simply avoiding their legitimate demands and calling them kooky “Birthers.”
This ghost of a POTUS will be uncovered by some patriots he’s demonizing almost daily, such as FBI/CIA officers, bankers, health insurance personnel, etc.
I dare the media and the 0kaka Administration communists to call us “Ghosters”, which will refer to his ghostly status every time they utter it.
0b0z0 will never run for reelection, definitely, if an accented, naturalized American candidate demands to run against him. SoSs will have to remove 0kaka from their ballots unless he proves that he is eligible. 0kaka has the right to go to court if he wishes. He wont, trust me.
However, we want him out ASAP to limit and/or nullify the communist damage to our beloved country.
Oh, yes, should we be afraid of union and communist-led riots threatening us if we dare to try legally and peacefully to uncover the ghost? Nope, if they insist on their violent ways, so be it.
Yes well paranoia runs deep in the Birther community. You think that everyone who doesn't swallow your nonsense is automatically in the pay of Obama.
If you think you’re not weak-minded, then answer my challenge:
Taking this hypothetically (which you should be able to do, given that you have nothing to hide and are entirely confident in addressing this for the purposes of discussion), tell me how a poster who in fact was “in the pay of Obama” would behave that is different from the way you behave?
I’ll take #1 with a couple of changes:
Non-Sequitur never leaves his key board (having a special combination desk chair/potty and his mommy brings him food down to the basement) and therefore never ever misses any thread about the, civil war, Southerners and the BC...
The funny thing is that you are more obsessed with defending the BC than anyone that believes it has issues. But after all, you are a big attention whore, so who knows..........
Oh no -- it's not that much -- yet.
It's only a documented $1.5 million paid to the Perkins et al law firm.
Oh but that does not include what is paid directly to other law firms and of course the propaganda effort that you are involved in -- which may exceed that paid to the lawyers.
I take it all back -- that claim may be low, given the quantity of Obot propaganda that has been imported from the far reaches of Obamalalaland. BTW Is your job one of that was "created" by him or "saved" by him????
The civil war and Southerners, too? Is he a victim? Perhaps that is the source of the chip on his shoulder that led him to fall for all that hope and change stuff which in turn led him to his anti-birther obot job. Affirmative action at work?
I would not classify myself as a “birther” but I do think the POS we call POTUS should release ALL of his documents and records, he needs to in the interest of transparency and truth. The truth, of course, is anathema to BO so we will never see his records. Why anyone would simply take the word of this a**hat is beyond me.
Lincoln too. He is obsessed with Lincoln, hates Southerners and anything that has to do with the South. Those 2 things and the BC are his things. Oh secession, he flips out when anyone mentions that. He’s from Chicago, probably a pal of the Marxist Kenyan.
Check his past posts, pretty interesting. He’s a fly under the radar paid Obot imo.
The pilot who slammed into the Austin, Texas IRS building the other day: We know more about him than we know about Obama's 1961 Hawaii birth certificate and Obama's birth hospital.
Ah, yes...I had someone point out to me (months ago) that there would be riots and blood in the streets if BO was ousted. Even all that *blood and guts image* they tried to paint didn't sway me one bit.
Best laugh I’ve had all day!!!
ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA? OH please. Now that is a credible source.
Myself, I am not only interested in whether Obama was or was not born in Hawaii, but I am also deeply interested to learn the name of the birth doctor and the name of the hospital on the 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate.
Obviously, no one, not even the media, can accept or not accept a name of the birth doctor or a name of the birth hospital, because no one outside of Obama and Hawaii officials have seen Obama's long form birth certificate to verify such names.
So, until we see the 1961 long form birth certificate, the name of the birth doctor and the name of the birth hospital cannot be known.
Myself, I don't think there is any doctor name or hospital name on the long form birth certificate, and that is the reason Obama is spending thousands of dollars to desperately try to keep the long form birth certificate out of court.
Because the natural born status of previous presidents **self evident**!
Armies of citizens would have been honored to testify that they knew the parents, visited the mom and baby soon after birth, and watched the child grow to maturity.
Obama has been unable or unwilling to provide this high level of citizen testimony of his origins. Well?...If he can't have fellow citizens testify ( formally or informally) for him, then it is **REASONABLE** to ask for a paper trail.
Well, I imagine that they'd be more subtle about it rather than being as obvious about finding Birther's as amusing as I do.
There are a lot of people out there who think that all Birthers are idiots. If that is true then you surely must be their king.