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Patients receive lethal injections without giving their consent (involuntary euthanasia)
New Scientist ^ | 20 June 1992 | Rachel Nowak

Posted on 02/21/2010 11:04:43 AM PST by JimWayne

The details are alarming. At least a third of the 5000 or so Dutch patients who each year receive lethal doses of drugs from their doctors do not give their unequivocal consent. About 400 of these patients never even raise the issue of euthanasia with their doctors...But the most flagrant abuse of euthanasia was the killing of a two-day-old child with Down's syndrome - a child who would probably have lived for 40 to 50 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: healthcare; hillarycare; murder; obamacare
I had to edit the headline as it was too long.

Imagine the doctor ending the life of your loved one because the bureaucratic system is short of money.

1 posted on 02/21/2010 11:04:43 AM PST by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne

This is what “free” healthcare gets ya! Comin’ soon to this country.


2 posted on 02/21/2010 11:06:44 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: JimWayne

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When Bill Mahr makes the hospital deicisions.


3 posted on 02/21/2010 11:09:21 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: JimWayne

Hang ‘em all at sunup.


4 posted on 02/21/2010 11:09:24 AM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Zero, Pelosi, Reid eta l. “Liberal’s final solution.”


5 posted on 02/21/2010 11:09:35 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yup! The government is going to decide who gets to stay and who has to go.


6 posted on 02/21/2010 11:10:30 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: darkangel82

Why ruin a perfectly good sunup. Do it now and get a good nights sleep.


7 posted on 02/21/2010 11:10:48 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JimWayne

That is exactly what is coming with rationcare.


8 posted on 02/21/2010 11:14:53 AM PST by GeronL (I pledge allegiance to the Principles of the Bill of Rights and to protect and defend it...)
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To: JimWayne

Once they figure out how much these lethal injections are costing the government, they are going to look for a more efficient method - like gas chambers.


9 posted on 02/21/2010 11:15:00 AM PST by centurion316
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To: JimWayne

Liberals just do not understand the concept of slippery slope.


10 posted on 02/21/2010 11:16:03 AM PST by GrannyAnn
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To: JimWayne

And the Dutch thought Hitler was a monster.


11 posted on 02/21/2010 11:16:37 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: Touch Not the Cat
Coming soon with Obama care.

Premiums go up..

Grand Ma goes down!

12 posted on 02/21/2010 11:17:34 AM PST by jaz.357 ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." W.Churchill)
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To: GrannyAnn

Right to Die = Duty to Die


13 posted on 02/21/2010 11:18:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: JimWayne

“But the most flagrant abuse of euthanasia was the killing of a two-day-old child with Down’s syndrome”

This isn’t “killing”; it is murder in the first degree. Evidently the Dutch have become Nazi’s.


14 posted on 02/21/2010 11:25:16 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: GrannyAnn
"Liberals just do not understand the concept of slippery slope."

Yes they do, however their arrogance just assumes it will never happen to them.

15 posted on 02/21/2010 11:27:21 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: JimWayne

Are they grinding people up into little green wafers yet?

16 posted on 02/21/2010 11:30:10 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Reid will show those special needs kids who is boss! /sar


17 posted on 02/21/2010 11:30:12 AM PST by omega4179 (jdforsenate.com hunt some rinos 2010)
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To: GrannyAnn

“Liberals just do not understand the concept of slippery slope.”

They do understand it. They just want us to be at the bottom of the slope.


18 posted on 02/21/2010 11:30:29 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: JimWayne

How many of these killed people were muslims? Do the Dutch have the balls to
“euthanize” muslims?


19 posted on 02/21/2010 11:31:03 AM PST by Levante
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To: JimWayne

How many of these killed people were muslims? Do the Dutch have the balls to
“euthanize” muslims?


20 posted on 02/21/2010 11:31:34 AM PST by Levante
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To: JimWayne

It appears to me that involuntary euthanasia would be a “cruel and unusual” way to cut spending.


21 posted on 02/21/2010 11:38:14 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: JimWayne

Last week my 13 yr old son asked me why euthanasia was not legal in the USA, and I did my best to explain. Thanks for posting this - it’s always good to follow up a family discussion with real-world examples.


22 posted on 02/21/2010 11:42:19 AM PST by Ghislaine935
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To: wagglebee; narses

*ping*


23 posted on 02/21/2010 11:47:35 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: JimWayne
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

Snip

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware

24 posted on 02/21/2010 11:48:57 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: JimWayne

And the Dutch dare bitch about the brutality of Sharia Law...!!


25 posted on 02/21/2010 11:49:35 AM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Comin’ soon? It’s here.
After Hurricane Katrina a Doctor Anna Pau intentionally had patients injected because they were ‘suffering’. Patients who had checked into the facility to be cared for- not killed.
She was hailed for her compassion, because of ‘extreme circumstances’, for the elderly and ( in some cases) terminal. Some had a DNR order, but NONE had signed a euthanasia consent. No prosecution. In fact the general consensus was if we didn’t give medical personnel free reign to decide who is suffering too much they would not stay for future hurricanes. So its carte-blanche, no questions asked about anything doctors do after disasters?
If they can decide you’re suffering too much from the heat, and can therefore speed up your dying, what stops them from deciding that cancer patients suffer too much during prolonged treatments, or newborns who are underdeveloped, or burn victims in agony during treatment?

If doctors are free to decide how much pain is too much, there will be no prolonged treatment and recovery for anyone. Murder is murder- a pillow over the face till breath stops, or an injection that will kill you in the name of compassion.
Whatever happened to ‘Do no harm’?


26 posted on 02/21/2010 11:49:47 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: JimWayne

involuntary euthanasia = murder


27 posted on 02/21/2010 11:50:03 AM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All

> And the Dutch thought Hitler was a monster.

He was. They're on their way to repeating history, on the slippery slope of "compassion".

For that matter ... in about 15 years when the sizable bell curve of Baby Boomer are in retirement homes, it'll be condoned here in the United States unless we get a handle on Progressivism and ObamaCare.

Free Read on Google Books:
The Origins of Nazi Genocide: From Euthanasia to the Final Solution



28 posted on 02/21/2010 11:51:18 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: JimWayne

Say hello to Husseincare. At least for republicans.


29 posted on 02/21/2010 12:01:42 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: JimWayne
Tim Zahn touched on this phenomenon in one of his books, Conquerors' Heritage:
"If you allow individual Zhirrzh to refuse Eldership, the inevitable result will be Zirrzh claiming the right to make that same decision not for themselves, but for others. Never mind the lack of a logical connection; it's been demonstrated time and again that that is the direction in which such thinking evolves. The only way to keep that from happening is to make sure we never take that first step."

Good book. Tim Zahn has a way of revealing human nature in new ways.
30 posted on 02/21/2010 12:20:20 PM PST by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: JimWayne

It’s ok because Doctors do it.

A young girl of 14 has a baby in secret, she smothers it and tosses the child in a dumpster or buries it-—Murder.

A Doctor sucks the brains from a baby’s head, That’s ok.

I dont make a distiction here, one is the same murder as the other,just because a Doctor does it, doesnt make it any less a murder.

That Doctor is a murderer and a disgrace to his profession.


31 posted on 02/21/2010 12:40:31 PM PST by Venturer
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To: JimWayne
Cor Spreeuwenberg, a general practitioner, [is a] committed Christian and veteran of nine cases of euthanasia.

Those two concepts are morally incompatible. You can't be a committed Christian and a veteran of nine cases of euthanasia.

For an American family, euthanasia for grandad may mean the difference between whether or not a younger member of the family can go to college, or whether the old station wagon can be traded in for a new one.

Why not trade up?! < /sarc>

32 posted on 02/21/2010 12:50:49 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Be strip-searched by scanners! Buy ObamaCare or go to jail! The Totalitarians are in charge!!!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Yeah, WTF kind of a disturbed individual came up with that?


33 posted on 02/21/2010 1:01:28 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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Why call it "involuntary euthanasia"? Just to befool people who do not think. It's murder. How people have forgtotten the Holocaust. How people have forgotten Hitler's plan to rid the world of Jews. And the comment about "slippery slope" - yes indeed; it's not that leftists don't see the slippery slope, they're earger to pull the entire world off into the chasm.

34 posted on 02/21/2010 1:09:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

“When Bill Mahr makes the hospital deicisions.”

Perhaps some “kind” Dutch Dr could find a way to make decisions for Bill.


35 posted on 02/21/2010 1:23:44 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: little jeremiah

thanks for the ping


36 posted on 02/21/2010 2:11:49 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: JimWayne

Thanks for the alert. Disposal daddies. But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death. - Pro 8:36


37 posted on 02/21/2010 5:29:35 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord [only Biblical object of petition] shall be saved")
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