Skip to comments.I am a liberal
Posted on 02/23/2010 4:10:06 AM PST by look.a.liberal
I came here to understand the conservative point of view. I've lurked for a while now. I decided it'd be appropriate for me to say a few words.
I think that you are patriotic Americans. I am a patriotic American too. It is our right and duty as Americans to vehemently disagree with eachother about how this nation should be governed. It is also our right to call into question the patriotism of those with whom we disagree, but it is our duty not to. It was patriotic to protest the government four years ago, and it is patriotic now. I thank you for this patriotism.
Here are some of the things that I believe:
I support the constitution. I support second amendment rights as well as first amendment rights. I think that it is necessary and good that a court interpret these amendments, but I am as appalled by the notion of a free speech zone as I was by DC's handgun ban. I'm angry about the recent encroachment against the fourth amendment, and the steady erosion of the tenth. It affects blue states as much as red ones. I don't care for drugs, but you tell me how the interstate commerce clause empowers the federal government to keep my neighbor from growing and then smoking a plant without leaving his back yard.
There is little doubt that the federal government exercises more power than it is allowed by the constitution. On the other hand, I think that the infrastructure of a modern country demands more federal powers than are described in the constitution. Instead of amending the constitution, we allowed more and more powers to be read into it. Now it's a status quo that we can't easily abandon.
I support abortion rights, but I think that the opposite position is also very reasonable. If abortion is murder, then there is no question that it should be banned at the federal level. If abortion is simply a medical procedure, then it is tyranny for the government to forbid it. Either way, it would seem that the question should be decided on the federal level. Yet, if we can't reach a consensus about something as basic as whether abortion is murder or an operation, how can we choose to forbid or protect it? I think abortion is a federal-level question that for the moment must unfortunately be decided at the state level.
I am a liberal. I don't think Obama is more tyrannical or arrogant than past presidents. I think a government health-care option would be good for Americans. I don't care that Bush wasn't eloquent, and I also don't think that intellect in the narrow sense is the most important quality for a president. On the other hand I think that the Iraq war was a catastrophic mistake that America won't live down in my lifetime. It weakened America financially, diplomatically and militarily. So, I am very much a liberal. Still, I think we have some common ground.
I'd like to say something a bit more personal. I'm an academic. We spend a lot of our lives thinking about very abstract, technical things. This makes academics prone to elaboration and understatement in our area of expertise, and simultaneously to oversimplification and overconfidence outside of it. We can be short on common sense, but we can have counterinuitive insight in technical matters. It takes academics, entrepreneurs, and factory workers to make a plane fly, and it takes all of us to make the right decisions for America. I think that anti-intellectualism marginalizes an important part of American society, and I think it's destructive. To those who say that small businessmen have nothing of value to say about the US economy, I say you're wrong, and to those who say that academic economists have nothing to say about the US economy, I also say you're wrong.
Please leave comments if you'd like. I'll try to respond tomorrow.
We, Americans, conservative and liberal, need to figure out our own compromises, because our media and our politicians sure as taxes won't do it for us. Like it or not, we're in it together.
Couldn’t you at least wait till I’ve had my first cup of coffee?
(Here are some of the things that I believe:
I support the constitution. I support second amendment rights as well as first amendment rights.)
You are not a liberal. LIBERALS hate and fear the 2nd Amendment.
Welcome. I hope people will be kind to you.
If all liberals were like you then there would be less problems. Perhaps you are not as liberal as you think you are. What I call you is the classic liberal, which is fine. The modern liberal is nothing more than a statist.
You don’t see the damage that is occurring. That is your problem. The fact that you are an academician and are incapable of objectively researching the data and coming to a detached interpretation of that data speaks volumes about both the liberal mindset and academe in general.
I don’t want to compromise with you and your Stalinist comrades. I want to defeat you, one and all, decisively.
Go back to DU and continue to wreak your havoc on our liberty, prosperity, and our future from there.
We’ll continue to defend liberty and the future of America from our side, as we did during the American Revolution, as we did to end slavery.
By the way, it sounds like you want to “get along.” Well, my goal is to take all that vitriol, hatred, and opposition that you showed Bush and his supporters for the last four years and to condense it down into four years of unparalleled misery for you leftists.
your a troll
I don’t think Obama is more tyrannical or arrogant than past presidents
How many CZARS?
Taking over the Auto Industry?
Dictating what private Corporations can pay their employees?
Trying to Nationalize the citizens healthcare?
I’ll leave the dozen or so other things for someone else to post on.....
well, welcome to FR. I am sure I will disagree with you, but welcome nevertheless. You are probably more conservative than you think.
Methinks the kitties are warming up the zot cannon even as we speak.
What kind of Opus is this?
“I support the constitution...(but) the infrastructure of a modern country demands more federal powers than are described in the constitution.”
Because conservative Americans can't read, or are just to dumb?
There is at least one over-a-decade member here (not me) who supports the imaginary 'right' to murder those unborn.
Sounds more Libertarian than Liberal to me.
No kidding. I was just checking weather, email and the web on the iPhone. And I just woke up.
I am an academic also. Specifically, I am an academic economist. And I am conservative. I believe in the free market and believe the role of the government should be limited. In particular, I believe that minimum wage laws cause unemployment (especially among the particular class of people the laws are intended to help). I believe that taxation hampers business, regulation and taxation leads to inefficiency and free trade is desirable.
The normative questions, specifically about equity issues, are often used to pit classes against each other, even though by definition there does not exist answers.
I am tired to hear people in academics talk about economic issues when they are trained in other areas. Specifically, professors in education, sociology, and many other areas believe that exposure to Marx is equivalent to sound economic theory. I believe the focus on diversity in the university ignores diversity of thought, with an unhealth (nearly unanimous) tilt towards liberalism.
I am tired with the academic class and the media portraying Palin as ignorant, the tea partiers as less intelligent, even though many top economists share their view. There is a reason that economics tends to have the highest percentage of conservatives in academics.
I read very carefully. You are not much of a liberal. As academics go, you are practically a right-wingnut. You agree with us far too much. When ObamaCare blows up in our faces, you’ll be right at home here.
Correct you on one thing:
“If abortion is murder, then there is no question that it should be banned at the federal level.”
That would only be true if they were performed at post offices, military installations, national parks and other federal properties. Otherwise, the crime of murder is a state issue.
Keep thinking. I’d say that you’re ‘getting there.’
After years of seeing only the liberal side of arguements I was electrified when I first heard William F Buckley and recognized my political center of gravity. But those shows were close to actual debates with a lot of give and take and some points of mutual agreement. But ever since 'Crossfire', political debate as resembled WWI trench warfare where trying to cross 'no-mans-land' will get you shot.
Political debate has become too defensive where even friends and family find it hard to agree to disagree.
Sorry, I will never be able to support 0bama and the vast majority of liberals because they are mentally ill and unstable. Every liberal I know is on some type of doctor prescribed medication just so their brains can function semi-normally each day.
If only that were entirely true :-(
One more thing, the modern liberal tries to drive wedges between differences, in religion, sex, race, and whatever else they can find because this is how they destroy this great country from within. Perhaps you need to find a new word to define yourself rather than liberal. Like gay liberal has taken on a new conontation than its original meaning. So unless you want to be thrown in with all of those who really do wish to destroy this country use your acedamia to invent that new word that better defines you.
I don't think you know what you believe.
If abortion is just an "operation", it's the only operation in which success is defined by the death of a human being.
And you call that "choice"? The right to choose to kill another person on the basis of personal convenience? If it is murder to kill a child 5 minutes after birth, why isn't it murder to kill that same child 5 minutes before birth?
You liberals are hypocrites, first and foremost.
You do have a right to believe this. You also have a right to be an idiot; but just having a right is different from making it right. You are wrong.
Actually, you lost me at "I am a Liberal." Liberal is a mental disorder. You are sick, but admitting your illness is a step in the right direction. I don't care to hear your liberal bullsh*t. We get enough of that from your kommie "Dear Reader," the ass-clown stinking up our White House, and our TV sets every narcissistically manic damn day.
We come here to get away from your ignorant puke. Please go to Hell, and leave America where you found her. You are no more an American patriot than was Stalin. You want socialism and daily gummint ass-reamings, move to France or Haiti. I hear it's real nice this time of year.
I am a conservative:
1) Pro-life, (at conception)
2) Pro-second amendment, (I carry a Ruger .357)
3) Pro-traditional family, (one man, one woman).
4) Pro-choice in schooling (we home-school our daughter, but I volunteer in Public Schools to help kids stuck in failing schools by a currupt Teachers Union)
5) Support hunting (but rescue abandoned animals)
6) Bible-carrying, Born-again Christian (but still love to listen to Hendrix)
I'm a typical conservative, but I'm not a typical conservative - don't really think any of us can be put "in a box".
I think you'll find the exchanges here interesting (and infuriating, and humorous, and curious, and....)
Academia is a major problem in America... and one day we will purge the communists and islamist loving anarchists from our education system.
You are a libertarian... that is one notch up from a drooler like schmucky schumer or henry waxman... try to seek help and it would not hurt to allow GOD into your life... your ideologies are not the center of the Universe... and neither are you.
You guys certainly ascribe deity like powers to you bullsh!t profession. Personally... I'd like to put you all against the wall... but then I believe in the Constitution... and I actually understand the men that wrote it. They would have found your kind a little to "red" for their liking. Have any synapses fired in that septic pool of a brain of yours yet?
As an academic you must also be aware that presentation and gloss is very often not indicative of substance. I have taken great issue with the characterization of Bush as an ‘anti-intellectual idiot’, and have never bought into the characterization of Obama as ‘brilliant’ and intellectual. The liberal establishment (e.g. certain media outlets, academia, etc.) have, however, perpetuated this false dichotomy. That, to me, is very offensive, and actually outright anti-intellectual. It is very difficult to have a meaningful dialogue when one side has already decided it is intellectually superior.
For the record, IMHO the act of characterizing oneself as ‘intellectual’ is generally a marker of not being so in reality. That was a general comment not directed at you in any way.
Again, thanks for starting this dialogue.
An academic what?
What a curious way to describe one's self.
Danged straight! I’m with you FRiend!
You are not a liberal!
Very good read. I am a firm believer in a strong 2 party political system; however, we have a very long way yo go in this country. Hopefully the Tea Party and the American people at the ‘grass root’ level will bring about the change we need
He might be an OPEN BORDERS SYMPATHIZER!
ALL ILLEGALS ALL THE TIME!
Welcome to FR. I do hope you keep lurking even if your account gets banned. Reagan was a democrat. So were my parents. Education is key. :)
IBTZ! No liberals allowed!
“last four years” = “last eight years”
The oh so compasionate, holier and trendier than thou liberals are so monolithic and I doubt would ever post here. It must feel oppressive to be where one is supposed to think a certain way, espouse certain causes etc. just to be accepted. Do you not believe a little diversity would be a good thing at the university?
Finally, do you not see the great harm to the country having the Chicago machine run Washington? Do you not feel embarassed that a radical law professor, with no practical experience, is so ineptly trying to run the country? Do you feel bad that one of your radical liberals is making George Bush look like a good President.
Thank you for posting here and I hope your visit here results in enlightenment on bothe sides of the fence.
So Red Eye fan Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics and Political Science, emailed me this weekend to tell me about a paper he wrote, due out today in the scientific journal Social PsychologyQuarterly.
It's entitled "Why liberals and atheists are more intelligent."
Already I hate it.
See, according to Satoshi, humans are "evolutionarily designed to be conservative and religious, and it is unnatural for them to be liberal and atheists." But he found that smarter people are more likely to go against their evolutionary design and become liberals and atheists. That kind of rebelliousness doesn't show up in the rest of us dumb folk, apparently.
A conservative himself, Satoshi says he doesn't like these findings, but as a scientist he has to publish them. Good for him. Of course, the findings will be trumpeted far and wide by the left - just as it would have been by the right - if the results were different.
Which is poo-hicky. I can safely say that I am smarter than most lefties - so smart, in fact, that I can use words like "poo-hicky" and get away with it.
And here's why. Satoshi's is really suggesting that smart people are more likely to experiment, take risks and question the status quo. This makes sense. But this link between intelligence and rebellion is only temporary.
It happens that I was once a pimply-faced liberal, a perfectly normal state of rebellion for a typical attention-seeking teenager. But, after awhile, I started rejecting the easy romance of leftism, as hard reality started hitting me in the face. So,while it takes brains to question the natural state of things, you need even more brains to later question the questioning. Smart people question their parents, but then smarter people realize that after a brief intellectual vacation, their parents were right all along (unless mom or dad is a Baldwin).
Bottom line: braininess isn't reflected in rebellion against common sense. Instead, it's rebellion against rebellion that is the proof of highest intelligence of all.
That - and an acceptance that unicorns rule and griffins suck.
And if you disagree with me, you're probably a racist leperchaun who eats babies.
From the sensible quality of your comments, I surmise that within five years you will no longer be a liberal.
You said something I found very curious. You wrote that as an academic “...we can have counterinuitive insight in technical matters.” This is important. The problem I find with many in academia is they tend to treat counter intuitiveness as a moral virtue much like they treat recycling and diversity. Counter intuition is great when the subject matter is technological. But when it comes to matters of moral imperative it falls short of Kant’s moral test.
Welcome to FreeRepublic. If you are sincere, I’m sure you will be given many opportunities here, to test the merit of your rational conclusions, which lead you to call yourself a liberal. Have fun.
A very thoughtful post. Thank you for sharing your views.
I agree. LaL is more conservative than he/she thinks.