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Did Obama sign an Executive Order denying all access to any of his personal records?
Myself | 2/24/10 | Myself

Posted on 02/24/2010 12:09:39 PM PST by Hotdog

I read he did this on his 2nd day in office...If this is true...where can I get a copy of this order?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: americainperil; dojasleep; executiveorder; noaccountability; nobc; nodocumentation; notransparency; obama; obamatruthfile; records; resumefraud; sociopath

1 posted on 02/24/2010 12:09:40 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: Hotdog

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html


2 posted on 02/24/2010 12:11:28 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: Hotdog

One of the many questions that need answering to expose this Muslim.


3 posted on 02/24/2010 12:11:57 PM PST by mcshot (The government can't give without first taking away and we're being robbed..)
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To: Hotdog

Bump for answer(s)


4 posted on 02/24/2010 12:12:16 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Hotdog

Is this the one you are looking for?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderPresidentialRecords

My understanding is that most new presidents do this. I could be wrong though.


5 posted on 02/24/2010 12:13:07 PM PST by bergmeid (Gas up the truck and pedal to the metal!)
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To: Hotdog

I read he did this on his 2nd day in office...If this is true...where can I get a copy of this order?


Sorry, he signed an order to not release any orders....


6 posted on 02/24/2010 12:13:41 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Hotdog

a certain magazine comes to mind


7 posted on 02/24/2010 12:13:58 PM PST by JohnLongIsland ( schmuckie schucks)
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To: Hotdog

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304500/posts

Obama’s first act as President EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 banning release of any of his records
Fewderation of American Scientists ^

Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009

THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release January 21, 2009

EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 - - - - - - -

PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

(a) “Archivist” refers to the Archivist of the United States or his designee. (b) “NARA” refers to the National Archives and Records Administration.

(c) “Presidential Records Act” refers to the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207.

(d) “NARA regulations” refers to the NARA regulations implementing the Presidential Records Act, 36 C.F.R. Part 1270.

(e) “Presidential records” refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records.

(f) “Former President” refers to the former President during whose term or terms of office particular Presidential records were created.

(g) A “substantial question of executive privilege” exists if NARA’s disclosure of Presidential records might impair national security (including the conduct of foreign relations), law enforcement, or the deliberative processes of the executive branch.

(h) A “final court order” is a court order from which no appeal may be taken.

Sec. 2. Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records. (a) When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines provided by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege. However, nothing in this order is intended to affect the right of the incumbent or former Presidents to invoke executive privilege with respect to materials not identified by the Archivist. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative. (b) Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the notice. If a shorter period of time is required under the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist shall so indicate in the notice.

Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

(b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination.

(c) If either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General.

(d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order.

Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President. (a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist’s determination as to whether to honor the former President’s claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist’s determination with respect to the former President’s claim of privilege.

(b) In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE, January 21, 2009.


8 posted on 02/24/2010 12:14:22 PM PST by maggief
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To: Hotdog

9 posted on 02/24/2010 12:15:17 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: maggief

Thanks so much...you guys/gals are great!...


10 posted on 02/24/2010 12:16:42 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: Hotdog

Not exactly, he signed a Presidential Records order which is standard procedure for each president.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Presidential_Records

Basically this makes the previous President’s records available per the National Archives and reiterates the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207 which protects any “Presidential Record” under executive privilege. It does not address “Personal Records” as those already fall under various Privacy act provisions and have the same blanket coverage for all citizens.


11 posted on 02/24/2010 12:16:45 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Hotdog

btt


12 posted on 02/24/2010 12:17:35 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cold Heart

EO 13489


13 posted on 02/24/2010 12:18:19 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Hotdog

No, he did not sign an EO saying that. He did sign an EO stating to exempt all PRESIDENTIAL records, but that has been in place for a while. And that was for ALL Presidents, including Bush.


14 posted on 02/24/2010 12:18:28 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: mnehring

I knew there couldn’t be just a simple answer...lol


15 posted on 02/24/2010 12:20:45 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: Hotdog
No. Obama signed an almost identical order - practically verbatim - to the one that Reagan signed in 1989. Obama is restoring the policy to what Reagan had established, but that Bush 43 revoked with his EO on Jan. 21,2001 In actuality, Obama's EO - like Reagan's - is slightly more transparent than what Bush 43 had installed.

Reagan's original order may be found here.

There are plenty of things to be critical of Obama over, but this isn't one of them.

16 posted on 02/24/2010 12:21:14 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: autumnraine

I think I understand now...again, thanks for all your help!


17 posted on 02/24/2010 12:22:15 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: Hotdog

...presidental records it looks like.


18 posted on 02/24/2010 12:22:17 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: OldDeckHand

I think with all the ‘birther’ stuff going on, people read into it what they expected to see even though it has no impact on personal records.


19 posted on 02/24/2010 12:22:32 PM PST by mnehring
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To: autumnraine

That’s the way I read it also...


20 posted on 02/24/2010 12:23:19 PM PST by Boonie
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To: mnehring

Your correct and that’s why I had to ask...just wanted to get the facts


21 posted on 02/24/2010 12:26:34 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: mnehring
"I think with all the ‘birther’ stuff going on, people read into it what they expected to see even though it has no impact on personal records."

I think that's exactly right. When, in actuality, all this goes back to some laws that were enacted subsequent to the Watergate debacle. Prior to the enactment of those laws, there really wasn't anything governing the destruction or archiving of the Presidential work product. Essentially, the outgoing President threw out what he wanted. Those laws changed all that.

But, Reagan wanted to protect Executive Privilege for himself, past Presidents and future Presidents. So, his legal counsel came up with these guidelines; which is essentially still mandating the archiving of these records, but is limiting their release from the archive when the Executive exercises privilege.

22 posted on 02/24/2010 12:30:57 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Hotdog

Are Executive Orders a regular order of business, or are they only able to be issued during a state of emergency, as I once heard?


23 posted on 02/24/2010 1:44:09 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: Hotdog

Power down, Hotdog. The Order applies to Presidential records, not personal records. This is a standard order which is entered by each President as he enters office. It simply establishes an orderly procedure for dealing with requests for Presidential records and maintenance and assertion of Executive Privilege. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Obama had copied and used the one Bush entered when he took office.


24 posted on 02/24/2010 3:13:23 PM PST by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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