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Some facts about killer whales
orlandosentinel ^ | February 24, 2010 | Dewayne Bevil

Posted on 02/24/2010 4:18:50 PM PST by JoeProBono

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To: driftdiver

So some have to be exploited for the benefit of others?


61 posted on 02/24/2010 6:07:03 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Trust but Verify

I don’t have a problem with zoos, partly because as I understand it animals in zoos live much longer.

I assume they therefore must be much better off, health-wise.

I can’t project upon them that they wish they were on the African Savannah or what not. I don’t think they have that kind of consciousness.


62 posted on 02/24/2010 6:14:03 PM PST by Persevero (Satan tries to separate what God puts together and join together what God separates.)
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To: Jmouse007
Died doing what she loved? That is rediculous, this KILLER WHALE pulled her into the water and thrashed her about like in the begining of JAWS and killed her dead. She is in eternity because men thought they could turn KILLER whales into entertainment.

Okay, she hated it.

What a maroon!

63 posted on 02/24/2010 6:22:30 PM PST by raybbr
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To: Trust but Verify

“So some have to be exploited for the benefit of others?”

So many have to die because some can’t work for a living?


64 posted on 02/24/2010 6:54:33 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jmouse007; raybbr
Died doing what she loved?

Yep. Just like Timothy Treadwell.

65 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:36 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: raybbr

No, she loved it right up to the point where the KILLER whale killed/ate her.


66 posted on 02/24/2010 7:35:55 PM PST by Jmouse007
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To: muawiyah
Killer whales don't leave records. They live in rather inhospitable regions too, and that keeps the score of kills way down.

We know for a fact that walruses and leopard seals, which inhabit the most remote polar environments, are known to attack and kill humans. Rogue male walruses will overturn small boats and kill everyone in them. And there are multiple documented cases of leopard seals hunting and eating humans in the wild.

We know nothing of the kind about killer whales. They live all over the world, so if they ever went after humans, we would know about it. They simply do not attack humans in the wild.

67 posted on 02/24/2010 8:12:13 PM PST by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Finny
The interesting thing is no one knows exactly how smart these creatures are. It could well have been premeditated murder.
68 posted on 02/24/2010 8:50:22 PM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: BigCinBigD

You made me LOL.


69 posted on 02/24/2010 8:56:36 PM PST by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

“You made me LOL.

About?


70 posted on 02/24/2010 9:15:22 PM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: Grizzled Bear


71 posted on 02/24/2010 9:18:50 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I knew bear attacks on humans would go up after that plane load of A-1 sauce went missing in the Cascades.


72 posted on 02/24/2010 9:18:58 PM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: Finny

We make bad meals. Too many bones, too little fat.


73 posted on 02/24/2010 9:24:19 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: rmlew

Now that actually makes sense!


74 posted on 02/24/2010 11:20:03 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: denydenydeny; rmlew
... if [killer whales] ever went after humans, we would know about it. They simply do not attack humans in the wild.

Well, it's an aberration when they do. There are eyewitness accounts, I've been told by one pretty well-educated fisherman who has read quite a lot about Arctic exploration, of Orcas trying to snack on explorers in the 1800s by crashing on ice flows and causing them to fall into the water, and also in his decades of fishing on the open sea out several hundred miles from land, there were mysterious things that raised some suspicion, but again, the Orcas are very, very smart and even sneaky. And a life-long, 3rd generation commercial diver and a friend who knew very well the normal habits of Orcas, saw a couple acting (and I quote) "guilty" one day, as in swimming hell-bent-for-leather away from the boat when any normal Orcas would have swung by for a visit, and he and his buddy were really puzzled by the behavior. He learned the next day that a couple of kayakers in that area had disappeared the same day he'd seen the Orcas. The kayaks were found all in one piece, one right-side-up, the other overturned, not a scratch on them.

According to my diver friend, the offical Fish n Game (or maybe Coast Guard) explanation was that Great Whites, very common in the area, must have gotten them, but my diver friend just laughed at that. Something very adroitly tipped both of those people out of their kayaks (they wouldn't have been swimming because the water was too cold, you don't get in and out of a kayak very easily in the water, and you stand too much of a chance losing the kayak to drift if you're not IN it). Sharks would have bitten the boats and certainly wouldn't have been smart enough or deft enough to knock people out of two of them; one would have been dumb luck. But Orcas? It'd be right up their alley, especially two rogue "bad boys" outcast from the pod.

This diver worked for four decades at least in proximity with Great White and Orcas; he only once ever felt threatened enough by a shark to get out of the water (hammerheads are worse), and never even bothered to fear Orcas because attacks on humans were so rare as to be not worth fearing, and he went on diving after the incident with the same attitude. But the truth is that in the wild, Orcas can and do eat anything they want.

And you know, rmlew, I think you're right that people would have too little fat and too big and heavy of bones for good munching ... but how would the Orcas know that without a little sampler first? Or more likely, would they care if they were just out for a little mischief?

75 posted on 02/24/2010 11:56:39 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: driftdiver

We obviously differ in our opinion about having 6 ton mammals doing tricks for the kiddies.


76 posted on 02/25/2010 3:57:33 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Trust but Verify

So are 6 lb mammels ok or do you only have trouble with the big ones.


77 posted on 02/25/2010 4:08:02 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

In this case, we’re talking about orcas.


78 posted on 02/25/2010 5:00:09 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Deo volente

Why has no one mentioned the obvious solution to this problem. TANK SIDE HARPOONS. Just sayin.


79 posted on 02/25/2010 5:18:30 AM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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