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Dangerous Cold Medicines

Posted on 02/27/2010 1:35:14 PM PST by truthfinder9

Many people, victims of the public education system, still believe that anything they buy or the doctor gives to them is safe, or that the Government is out there keeping them safe. Here's one of many examples of the FDA acting only after people are sickened or die. Perhaps people should learn how they get sick to begin with, and how to naturally prevent it, then they wouldn't need gallons of drugs a year.

From Green Barbarians by Ellen Sandbeck:

Some members of the American College of Chest Physicians reviewed decades' worth of studies and concluded that there is no scientific evidence whatsoever that the active ingredients in most over-the-counter cough medicines...have any effect at all on coughs. The doctors did find, however, that over-the-counter cough medicines have a very strong placebo effect.

In 2007, the CDC announced that over a two-year period, fifteen hundred toddlers and babies were treated in emergency rooms because of bad reactions to cold or cough medicine; three of these infants died...the pharmaceutical industry voluntarily withdrew all "infant" cough medications from the market. Also in 2007, the FDA warned parents that cough and cold medicines should never be given to children under the age of two, and advised against giving them to children under age of six.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cdc; cold; drugs; sickness; virus

1 posted on 02/27/2010 1:35:14 PM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9
the pharmaceutical industry voluntarily withdrew all "infant" cough medications from the market

That's why my kids get a small dose of adult medicine now.

2 posted on 02/27/2010 1:38:35 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: truthfinder9
Garbage - dextromethorphan has been shown in numerous studies to suppress cough. Its about 1/2 as potent as codeine and lacks the opiate side effects.

Who knows what the dopey reporter may have been trying to say - that few COLD medicines reduce the other cold symptoms (nasal congestion and drainage)?

3 posted on 02/27/2010 1:41:58 PM PST by corkoman
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To: truthfinder9

All that most OTC medicines do is mask symptoms to make you more comfortable. Of course, you stay sick longer. Our bodies were designed to fight off and eliminate illness. Anti-diarrheal medications are one that I REALLY don’t understand. If your body wants rid of something don’t try to hinder it.


4 posted on 02/27/2010 1:42:31 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: corkoman

Enough studies showed it dangers to convince the FDA. Or maybe it was the dead kids. That’s usually when the FDA belatedly steps in.


5 posted on 02/27/2010 1:45:26 PM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9

Never mix aspirin with alleve. Never mix tylenol with alcohol. The first will ruin your kidneys, the second will ruin your liver.

And I choose to never use over the counter cold medicine. It kills brain cells.


6 posted on 02/27/2010 1:46:41 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: truthfinder9

There are a host of safe alternative remedies available for colds and flus. Big Pharma, in cinjunction with the MSM, keeps this information out of public awareness as much as possible.


7 posted on 02/27/2010 1:47:50 PM PST by Rennes Templar (.)
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To: truthfinder9

Oh, please. Guaifenesin works like a charm on chesty coughs, and has to my personal knowledge since the 1980s. Ditto Chloraseptic cough drops, especially the nasty green ones that completely deaden the throat from your wisdom teeth down to your esophagus, and make your tongue go numb. Why would they want to deny little kids relief?


8 posted on 02/27/2010 1:47:52 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

“Why would they want to deny little kids relief?”

That language is really inflammatory. Do you have proof that he wants to deny relief to little kids?


9 posted on 02/27/2010 1:50:09 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: corkoman
Garbage - dextromethorphan has been shown in numerous studies to suppress cough. Its about 1/2 as potent as codeine and lacks the opiate side effects.

When I get a cold that reaches a stage of uncontrollable, dry, unproductive coughing my pharmacist lets me sign for a codeine cough syrup. It's schedule IV so they keep track of you to prevent abuse, but it always does the job.

10 posted on 02/27/2010 1:51:31 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

he=they sorry!


11 posted on 02/27/2010 1:51:34 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: La Lydia

Guaifenesin is the only thing that’s ever worked for me.


12 posted on 02/27/2010 1:51:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

You may be right about anti-diarrheal meds, but having just read up on the common cold (don’t ask why!) - I’ve found a lot of old wives tales and plain BS often gets taken as gospel.

For example, allergic reactions like sneezing can help remove irritants like dust or pollen, but don’t do a darn thing to get rid of viruses, which stay fat and happy in the nasal cavity. So I figure, why suffer the symptoms if it doesn’t matter?

My reference for this is: http://www.commoncold.org/special1.htm

If anyone can dispute these claims, I’d be interested in knowing.


13 posted on 02/27/2010 1:54:34 PM PST by bigbob
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To: truthfinder9

I have found a swallow of Bailey’s stops my cough better than any “syrup.”

And I don’t drink, not normally, so it’s not an excuse for Bailey’s :)


14 posted on 02/27/2010 1:55:20 PM PST by Persevero (Satan tries to separate what God puts together and join together what God separates.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Who “he”? I am taking about the FDA, because, according to this story: “... the FDA warned parents that cough and cold medicines should never be given to children under the age of two, and advised against giving them to children under age of six.” Sounds to me like the FDA wants to deny relief to little kids, whose parents had been giving them relief-bringing medicine for years until the FDA butted in. Sorry my comment was so difficult for you to understand.


15 posted on 02/27/2010 1:57:11 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
"Anti-diarrheal medications are one that I REALLY don’t understand. If your body wants rid of something don’t try to hinder it."

Yes, that's correct, up to a point. Prolonged diarrhea causes severe dehydration, however.

16 posted on 02/27/2010 1:59:40 PM PST by carolinablonde ("The Constitution protects all of us, not just those on the left." - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: truthfinder9

A physician told me the best expectorant is water.


17 posted on 02/27/2010 1:59:59 PM PST by zeebee (Ask a teenager now, while they still know everything.)
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To: La Lydia

Maybe the FDA doesn’t want any more kids to die. Or maybe they don’t want their supporters at the drug companies to get sued and lose all that money they give to the politicians that run the FDA.


18 posted on 02/27/2010 2:01:23 PM PST by truthfinder9
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To: bigbob

Well for a cold I can’t dispute the claims exactly. I can just tell you my experience. We always work with our symptoms instead of suppressing them. Flushing the nasal cavity, taking a expectorant etc. We don’t tend to be sick more than 2 or 3 days. You don’t want to know what we do for throwing up and fevers. :)


19 posted on 02/27/2010 2:02:28 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: La Lydia

I corrected myself in the next post, the he should have been they. I understood what you meant perfectly. I don’t think the intent is to deny them relief. I think it is an unintended consequence of their action. I am not for government regulation. I am however for full disclosure. If there are serious side effects a parent should know before hand.


20 posted on 02/27/2010 2:06:18 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: carolinablonde

Yes I have a great remedy for that. Few people will ever try it though. :)


21 posted on 02/27/2010 2:07:21 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: bigbob

BTW, why were you reading up on the common cold? ;)


22 posted on 02/27/2010 2:08:29 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: corkoman

“Garbage - dextromethorphan has been shown in numerous studies to suppress cough. Its about 1/2 as potent as codeine and lacks the opiate side effects.”

Agreed. I did my own personal study a few months ago. Couldn’t sleep for all the coughing until I took some.

I don’t know why the medical community is so against cold meds these days. They have valid uses.


23 posted on 02/27/2010 2:10:20 PM PST by webstersII
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To: La Lydia

BTW, there are other ways to relieve symptoms in a child that small.


24 posted on 02/27/2010 2:10:43 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: truthfinder9

a) above a minimum age, all of these med’s dosages should be determined by body weight. That applies to adults, also.

3 children die in 2 years? Considering the stupidity of so many parents, and the size of the group we are talking about, that is an insanely low number.

Can anyone in our society put numbers in perspective?


25 posted on 02/27/2010 2:18:06 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I tend to agree, and actually hate to over-medicate. My sister convinced me to use the “neti pot”, which I now swear by. I also have heard that water makes the best expectorant, and reckon there’s some truth in that too.


26 posted on 02/27/2010 2:18:48 PM PST by bigbob
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To: devolve; truthfinder9

I think we know what works for us and what doesn’t. I don’t need a ‘nanny’ study to tell me, lol.

NyQuil [spelling?] works wonderfully for me, stops the cough.


27 posted on 02/27/2010 2:21:58 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: bigbob

I haven’t ever used the neti pot. I may have to look into that.


28 posted on 02/27/2010 2:26:15 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: truthfinder9

The FDA and the drug companies are hardly allies. But I wonder how we all survived all those years, and why more of us aren’t dead, given the poisons they are apparently peddling at CVS.


29 posted on 02/27/2010 2:40:04 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Yeah, thanks FDA.

Sorry about the kids who died, but now my grandson, who could have gotten dimetapp and stopped his sniffles and sneezes before they got bad, now ends up with bronchitis and in the hosp. It was the same with my kids, due to allergies. I gave all of them dimetapp. They got some sleep and so did I—and we all survived. Now all we’re supposed to do is keep the shower running and create steam. Meanwhile, the kids are suffocating b/c they can’t BREATHE in the first place!


30 posted on 02/27/2010 2:47:43 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: potlatch

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Omommiecare knows best!


31 posted on 02/27/2010 3:17:33 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . Hussein Junior-Rigging the USA in any which way possible . . . . . . .)
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To: devolve

They think they do. Just like all the ‘studies’ on food. Wait 6 months and there will be a reverse ‘finding’.


32 posted on 02/27/2010 3:21:07 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: Minn

Vitamin D-3, the best placebo of all. My wife is an elementary schoolteacher and has always brought home whatever colds and flu were going around at school. This year we commenced on a regimen of 10,000 iu of D3 daily, equivalent to an hour or so of sunshine in the summer, This school year H1N1 and a couple other types of flu made the rounds and a couple of cold type things. Wife brought none of it home.


33 posted on 02/27/2010 3:28:37 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
Anti-diarrheal medications are one that I REALLY don’t understand. If your body wants rid of something don’t try to hinder it.

Out of control diarrhea can be fatal.

Sometimes and illness or whatever can cause body systems that normally work for the good, to go awry. In the case of uncontrollable diarrhea it can cause severe dehydration and even death.

Out of control diarrhea can be stopped with Parapectolin (or a generic equivalent). In an emergency when a doctor is unavailable, your pharmacist may let you sign for it, especially if you describe the problem. It has to be signed for because it is a class IV drug and contains a minute amount of opium.

Diarrhea can cause muscle spasms in the large intestine and the Parapectolin calms them for long enough for your body to regain control.

34 posted on 02/27/2010 3:46:45 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: truthfinder9

Love these idiots...it’s your fault if you get sick. If you had done the right thing; etc. etc. you would not need cough medicine.


35 posted on 02/27/2010 3:50:21 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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[it’s your fault if you get sick.]

Lol, not always. I was on a shuttle boat heading to Cosumel and a local child in the row in front of me turned around and coughed right in my face!

That was the worst cold I ever had as I almost never get them.


36 posted on 02/27/2010 3:56:25 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: capt. norm

That isn’t what I was referring to. I was talking about normal bouts with diarrhea. I think of the diarrhea commercials where they can’t wait to get the bathroom.

Of course you are right. If you are having extreme bouts of diarrhea you should see a doctor.


37 posted on 02/27/2010 3:58:15 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Sorry Sara, mistook your comment!


38 posted on 02/27/2010 4:05:24 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: potlatch

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If your election lasts longer than.....


39 posted on 02/27/2010 4:27:27 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . Hussein Junior-Rigging the USA in any which way possible . . . . . . .)
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To: devolve

Mmmkay...


40 posted on 02/27/2010 4:47:08 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“above a minimum age”

Not always. Internal organ size and function is a primary factor in determining doseage, which is why age is also a factor.


41 posted on 02/27/2010 7:01:41 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: truthfinder9
Enough studies showed it dangers to convince the FDA. Or maybe it was the dead kids. That’s usually when the FDA belatedly steps in.

Silly wagging tongue.

42 posted on 02/28/2010 5:21:40 AM PST by corkoman
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