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Obama has nothing to support his eligibility, AND he has hits against his eligibility. So what now?

Posted on 02/27/2010 5:32:56 PM PST by capacommie

Lingle sends out a boilerplate letter that says she can't say anything. The Hawaii Attorney General's office won't corroborate Janice Funkino's statement that Obama was born in Hawaii. Fukino is breaking Hawaii's information laws which REQUIRE her to provide an uncertified copy of a vital document once the party of interest has already published it in non-redacted form (which was done by Obama). She does not provide the COHB because...it does not exist! She is also breaking Hawaii's laws which require her to provide a basis for her public statements, which she has refused to do. Obama's potential names are not listed on the Hawaii indexes (Obama, Soetoro, Dunham, Payne) Obama's certificate number is impossibly ordered. =forgery So Obama has nada to support his eligibility.

Further Obama has hits against his eligibility. He admits he is ineligible as cosponsor of S.R. 511 which spells out that McCain is a natural born citizen because he was born of 2 US citizen parents on a US possession military base. He admits twice in publication that he (Obama) was born British. If we are to believe his story line since, he is STILL a British citizen to this day.

A natural born citizen has NO other citizenship ties at birth by virtue of place or parentage, than American. So Obama was never a natural born citizen (and this status cannot be granted later, either).

So what now? Technically, he cannot even "prove" he's 35 and a resident for 14 years, let alone the higher standard of being a natural born citizen (not just a statutory US citizen, which the bots have obfuscated with for 2 years---no statutory US citizen can EVER be a natural born citizen, and vice versa). So really, there's nothing complex about this situation. No vitals, no school records = ineligible...push the point=STILL ineligible.

Further, he acts like a madman, the 25th should kick in at the very least.


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1 posted on 02/27/2010 5:32:56 PM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie

I'm sorry, but Bill O'Reilly has investigated this, and he says it's bogus.

Glenn Beck says that you are more dangerous than Osama Bin Laden for thinking along these lines.

So I am afraid that I am going to have to ask you to step back from the fraudulent president and to please return your head to its rightful place in the sand. /sarc

2 posted on 02/27/2010 5:39:45 PM PST by chris37
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To: capacommie

3 posted on 02/27/2010 5:40:30 PM PST by dubie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: capacommie

Bookmark


4 posted on 02/27/2010 5:41:27 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: capacommie

Maybe the people at the CIA will get tired of being kicked around by the democrat and slip some damning info onto somebodys screen like some one did about the global warming hoax,


5 posted on 02/27/2010 5:42:59 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: chris37

Isn’t O’Reilly a known sex pervert?

Didn’t Beck on his show admit to being a recovering alcoholic who also said on the air that he had a serious porn addiction?

I am not sure if The Leprechaun is also an alcoholic.


6 posted on 02/27/2010 5:44:40 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: capacommie
25'th?? I mean, something almost has to happen here, and I'd like to hear some ideas.

American Boris Godunov ping.....

7 posted on 02/27/2010 5:44:47 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: capacommie

8 posted on 02/27/2010 5:44:53 PM PST by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: dubie

You know what, dubie, I am gonna beat that horse until it looks like this.

9 posted on 02/27/2010 5:45:16 PM PST by chris37
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To: nhwingut
nhwingut
10 posted on 02/27/2010 5:46:24 PM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie

You accept that the courts are going to do nothing about it. Hope to get some states to require proof in the future, and in 100 years it will be an obscure political oddity like Chet Arthur.

In the mean time we hit him with everything we have that actually gets traction.


11 posted on 02/27/2010 5:47:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: chris37
I'm gonna beat that dead horse til it looks like this:
12 posted on 02/27/2010 5:47:42 PM PST by capacommie
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To: nhwingut

No one made you open the link.


13 posted on 02/27/2010 5:48:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: capacommie

Most educated and informed citizens know that Obama is ineligible to be President, but they are unwilling to do anything.

The Democrats will lie about anyhting to protect one of their own.

The Republicans have shown no backbone and no leadership. I am not sure if their concern is being called racists or that they really just don’t support the Constitution.

Citizens should be concerned that no one is willing to discuss this issue and that BOR and Glen are calling it a conspiracy and denigrating any proper discussion of this issue.

Hopefully Obama will be a one term and the historians will document the facts.


14 posted on 02/27/2010 5:49:24 PM PST by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: cripplecreek

“You accept that the courts are going to do nothing about it.”

Excuse, but isn’t this called “treason” and “tyranny”??

I tend to want to hope for something called a “future” for my progeny.


15 posted on 02/27/2010 5:49:26 PM PST by capacommie
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To: capacommie

Like I said, the courts aren’t going to do anything. I didn’t say I disagree with you.


16 posted on 02/27/2010 5:50:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: cripplecreek
I wonder why this doesn't have any traction?

White House Accused of Federal Crime in Specter, Bennet Races

For the second time in five months, the Obama White House is being accused -- by Democrats -- of offering high ranking government jobs in return for political favors. What no one is reporting is that this is a violation of federal law that can lead to prison time, a fine or both, according to Title 18, Chapter 11, Section 211 of the United States Code.

The jobs in question? Secretary of the Navy and a position within the U.S. Agency for International Development.

The favor requested in return? Withdrawal from Senate challenges to two sitting United States Senators, both Democrats supported by President Obama. The Senators are Arlen Specter in Pennsylvania and Michael Bennet in Colorado.


17 posted on 02/27/2010 5:51:15 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: capacommie
More sunlight. The truth needs to be demanded. Thanks for posting.
18 posted on 02/27/2010 5:55:09 PM PST by opentalk
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To: capacommie

Look at the bright side. Since being a natural born citizen is no longer an adhered to requirement, maybe John Howard can run for POTUS in 2012?


19 posted on 02/27/2010 5:59:27 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: devolve; All; capacommie

20 posted on 02/27/2010 6:00:52 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: capacommie

BTTT


21 posted on 02/27/2010 6:01:29 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: capacommie

You know the thing that has always amazed me is that so little attention is given to the words he supposedly wrote in one of his books back in the 90’s. In that he says that he has his birth certificate in a box or file of some sort. That is the birth certificate I want to see. maybe someone with more knowledge can provide the details of that line in whichever book it was.


22 posted on 02/27/2010 6:04:28 PM PST by landerwy (Zero lied, who else will die?)
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To: Frantzie

Mr. O’Reilly definitely likes younger ladies. I think he married Flavor Flav’s ex-lady. Bill, what the hell were you...ew, never mind on that...

As far as Beck goes, I am aware of his claims of alcoholism, but I am not aware of any admission to pornography. I can’t really see anything past his striking hypocrisy. Question boldly, unless I don’t approve of your question, then you will be called names by me and humiliated Alinsky style.


23 posted on 02/27/2010 6:05:09 PM PST by chris37
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To: capacommie

well, it is treason anyway you look at it- if he’s not a legal prez then both the house and senate are guilty of treason..soldiers were sent overseas and died under this illegal prez., the next prez in 2012 can open up those can of worms


24 posted on 02/27/2010 6:08:52 PM PST by chicken head
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To: landerwy; Wild Irish Rogue

I found this resonse to a question I had asked earlier!

Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:21:55 AM · 70 of 126
Wild Irish Rogue to landerwy
” Maybe someone can help me out here but I recall during the election where someone posted a quote from one of his books referring to a birth certificate of his in a shoebox or something like that. Was i up in the night? “

Dreams From My Father Page 26

Obama is discussing an interview that his father..well, that BO1 gave to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin upon his graduation from the University of Hawaii.
Barry describes how his father was angry and although his father did not personally experience segregation -
he “ detected “ discrimination and self segregation and scolded the university and society in the interview.
His father did note “ with amusement “ that Caucasians in Hawaii were often at the receiving end of discrimination.
BO1 seemed to have a big, old chip on his shoulder.
And BO2 was upset that in the long interview-he never mentioned that he had a wife or baby son.
Which was odd.
Barry blamed this omission on a fight between the parents or an editorial decision.
Anyway-Barry wrote on page 26

” I discovered the article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school.”

Neither his grandparents nor his mother had ever shown him the article
( which was odd ) and it seems Barry was snooping.
I wonder if whatever was on the BC sent Barry into his high school tailspin of smoking crack , pot, booze ,
poor grades and generally not giving a damn.
He wrote in his book that he came to realize that his grandfather was a typical white liar who
made up stories about the family and it’s history.
And his grandmother was only slightly more believeable.
He no longer trusted their version of events.

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25 posted on 02/27/2010 6:13:00 PM PST by landerwy (Zero lied, who else will die?)
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To: reefdiver

Would people stop these comments about the CIA. They have no authority here!
You watch way too much 24 & NCIS!


26 posted on 02/27/2010 6:14:05 PM PST by Reily
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To: capacommie

Obama may be trying to work out a trade arrangement, stop the birtherism and he’ll stop Obamacare dead in its tracks.

Holding America as hostage he may continue with Obamacare regardless if any court even starts to bring up prosecution.

A loose theory?


27 posted on 02/27/2010 6:14:45 PM PST by Eye of Unk ("Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists." ~~George W. Bush)
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To: reefdiver

you know I actually do believe bama is Not a citizen, but its all moot.....you know he has the backing of the elites and they will go to any extreme to keep him in there...plus, our weak kneed congresscritters will just shrug, then pass a law retroactively so bamey can stay prez....


28 posted on 02/27/2010 6:16:29 PM PST by cherry (i)
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To: Reily; reefdiver

Where did anyone claim they had authority? What was said was that they may have information. Two entirely different things.


29 posted on 02/27/2010 6:18:31 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: chris37
Well hell man I have been called a malignant tumor for questioning the BC thing by people here on FR. That is why we will not win the election in 2012 because so called conservatives spend so much time eating their own..
30 posted on 02/27/2010 6:23:07 PM PST by Americanexpat
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To: capacommie

i think we should all put up some funds and hire a good investigator to find out some more scoop on barry


31 posted on 02/27/2010 6:29:34 PM PST by chicken head
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To: ADSUM
To all
No I don't know if Zero is eligible or not!
I am maybe 50/50 to 55/45, born-in-Hawaii/not-born-in-Hawaii. He is hiding something! We need to know what it is!(I am not going to discuss the NBC argument, since as near as I can tell it is a gray area that has never been definitively adjudicated!)
However this “problem” exists because the Constitution pretty much leaves “ballot access” issues to the States. The States haven't cared!

For example every state I have lived where the Secretary of State polices the elections, these state officers at best have been “political hacks”!

I think the reason that people like Rush, Beck & others are “painting” those who push this argument as “loonies” is because politically its a loser in mainstream politics!
Face it, it is !
If the people couldn't get outraged by a President committing perjury they aren't going to get aroused by this!

However it still should be pushed in court (by more competent lawyers then Taitz!), because it keeps it out there and bubbling just below the horizon. Who knows some federal judge might demand “discovery”, federal judges have done weirder things on less evidence and legal reasoning.

The real way to attack the eligibility issue is through the state legislatures and pass laws requiring proper documentation for ballot access. Don't even mention Obama, an Rat or other leftist rodent bring up Zero's name. Ask them, ‘Why are you bringing that up? You worried about Zero? It shouldn't effect him in 2012, after all he is eligible. Right?’

32 posted on 02/27/2010 6:39:53 PM PST by Reily
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To: capacommie

Two posts in one night (a Saturday night, admittedly.)

But it would be to the Dems advantage to somehow get
‘bam to go away. It would be their salvation, and they
know this by now, I suspect.

Neither the ‘Pubs nor the people have any influence in this.
If it’s brought to light, the Dems will be behind it.

I’m just wondering if something is in the air.

Hope springs eternal, I guess.


33 posted on 02/27/2010 6:40:55 PM PST by tsomer
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To: chris37

“Bill O’Reilly has investigated this, and he says it’s bogus.”

O’Reilly, the pompous ass, has not investigated anything.
The only time that I have seen O’Reilly in over five years
was a clip of him being a smart ass as he proclaimed to have the real birth certificate.
As he gingerly removed it from the envelope, saying “this is it”, I started laughing. It was a copy of the same stupid certification pap that has been all over the internet from day one.
In other words, he had nothing but crap.


34 posted on 02/27/2010 6:50:49 PM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Reily

An ancient recreation of O’Reilley and Beck battling for broadcasting bucks!
http://www.sculpturegallery.com/sculpture/hercules_and_diomedes.html


35 posted on 02/27/2010 6:53:56 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: chris37

I heard Beck admit it on his radio show. He sometimes just blurts things out. He is not all there.

For those who think I am a basher, Rush’s close friend Mark Levin has questioned Beck as well.

Rush is the real deal.


36 posted on 02/27/2010 6:54:04 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: cripplecreek

“{...we hit him with everything we have that actually gets traction.”

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Unless Congress and the SCOTUS cooperate, there will never be any traction.


37 posted on 02/27/2010 6:54:24 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: ADSUM

>>Hopefully Obama will be a one term and the historians will document the facts.<<

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Even if he is a one-termer the truth should still be made known. If it turns out that he was ineligible for the position of POTUS, all bills passed during his administration should be declared null and void. It is important that this eligibility issue be vigorously pursued until it is fully resolved.


38 posted on 02/27/2010 7:03:32 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: chris37

LOL! Great post!!


39 posted on 02/27/2010 7:06:21 PM PST by TXBlair (Farouk! Farouk! I love your CHI, but you'll never be my G-O-V!)
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To: chicken head

“...the next prez in 2012 can open up those can of worms...”

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If he has the b*lls. Doubt it.


40 posted on 02/27/2010 7:07:18 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: DJ MacWoW
How would they collect that information?

CIA officers don't sit around then say, ‘Lets go fiddle with birth records in some 3rd World hospital!’

Intelligence collections have to be paid for and tasked, tasking goes through a myriad of committees for approval for the use of technical collection means or even money for a simple bribe to a foreign official. All that leaves a paper trail which is checked and rechecked by validation committees all the way up to Panetta’s office and to congressional oversight committees. The tasking would never even get started, even if someone wanted to do it! All it would do is get the CIA officer who tried to do it labeled a "kook" and finish his career. It would be a career suicide mission with zero chance of success. Even if they got something from Kenya, it would have NO legal meaning by itself. Do you think its in the best interest of the Kenyan government to say, ‘Yes he was born here!’ Without their validation it has no more meaning in court then the crap that has already been posted on the Internet. Information without some form of validation and verification that stands challenge is "noise".

If every USG agency when into Zero and said we have information you aren't a citizen. His response would be "prove it in court" and we would still be here on the Internet chatting about it. Nothing would change!

The only thing that would change the game, is if some federal judge decides to go "fishing" and gets the Hawaiian, or school & college records released. If this said something "funny" about eligibility then the "political damage" from that would cause a "seismic shift" in the political landscape and a "solution" would be found> If a state passes stringent ballot access requirements and all of a sudden Zero doesn't file in that state for 2012, again a "critical hit" politically and he would go off and spend more time with Michelle and the kids in some country without an extradition treaty.

We still would have this "gaping eligibility hole" that's the states need to step up and fill! I want the States to do it! Constitutionally its their responsibility!
41 posted on 02/27/2010 7:11:36 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

The truth is that you have no idea what they do or do not know. Do you think there aren’t files kept on politicians and their associations? Please!


42 posted on 02/27/2010 7:14:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Reily

Btw, it was Hillary who had FBI files on her enemies. Don’t try to tell me that no agency has a file on Bam.


43 posted on 02/27/2010 7:17:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: dubie

sick VERR SICK


44 posted on 02/27/2010 7:21:18 PM PST by BornToBeAmerican
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To: potlatch

That’s a rotten egg.


45 posted on 02/27/2010 7:35:44 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Go back to watching 24 & NCIS.
You seem to prefer that reality.
You don't know what I know or don't know!

Do you really think after the Church hearings, the publicity regarding Hoover's files on politicians, the incredible micromanagement that the oversight committees do on the Intelligence Community that some federal employee now would keep blackmail files on politicians? When the federal employee has everything to lose if he or she is caught. Would "allied" politicians protect them? I think not!

Again tell me how would the data be collected?
How would you task other employees to collect it?
How would you spend the money or get the time on technical collection systems to do it?
How would you do these things and not immediately get caught?

This was posted some time ago here on FR.
A cop got slapped down fast by his superiors when he tried to do a criminal database search on Zero. And you know something, his superiors were right! That database is not there for his personal use. It's no different for CIA, NSA, FBI, etc personnel.
46 posted on 02/27/2010 7:37:02 PM PST by Reily
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To: BornToBeAmerican

When obama says in his book he found his b/c and shots records Kenyan b/c’s have shot records on the bottom of them , but not hawaiian b/c’s.


47 posted on 02/27/2010 7:37:59 PM PST by manonCANAL
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To: American Constitutionalist

Yes, very rotten!


48 posted on 02/27/2010 7:38:39 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: landerwy
" Barry describes how his father was angry and although his father did not personally experience segregation - he “ detected “ discrimination and self segregation and scolded the university and society in the interview. His father did note “ with amusement “ that Caucasians in Hawaii were often at the receiving end of discrimination. BO1 seemed to have a big, old chip on his shoulder. "

That's the root of the agenda, to get back at whitey.

It's hypocritical for them to get upset about " discrimination " but, as Obama Sr thought and believed, it was " Amusing " to see whites in the receiving end of it.
That is what is behind the agenda that is driving the racist blacks into power, to get their revenge, to get back at whitey.
They long ago forgotten what Martin Luther King said.
49 posted on 02/27/2010 7:44:16 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Those are FBI security interview files for political appointee jobs, NOT Intelligence community files. A completely different animal of a data. I guess one could argue that an administration has the right to those “raw files” since they are appointing these people. Though I personally don't accept that argument!

The Clinton's used a lot private detectives for their “political dirt”. I doubt if the FBI files had as much about “the opposition” as we think. After Hoover I doubt if the Bureau collect any of that stuff around for very long. And Hoover only collected information on those who could threaten him. He viewed White House occupants as temporary annoyances who came and went.

50 posted on 02/27/2010 7:45:41 PM PST by Reily
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