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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2010 Vol. 05 – March 05
Free Republic | 03-05-2010 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 03/05/2010 5:04:40 AM PST by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners! Here in Central Mississippi spring type weather will be here soon. I can feel the warmth at the other end of the tunnel! Highs for the next week will be in the 60’s and 70’s and I will be out in the garden and yard cleaning up. I will have around two or three weeks to get the garden area in shape before any plants get transplanted into the garden. Spring officially starts March 20.

If you are just starting out gardening and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in. There are many Freepers from all over the Good Ol’ USA that are willing and eager to help.

The Weekly Gardening ping list has grown to 303 Freepers as of yesterday.


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1 posted on 03/05/2010 5:04:41 AM PST by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Good morning to all of you gardeners.

Ping to the Weekly Gardening Ping List.

I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

If you would like to be added to or removed from the list please let me know by FreepMail or by posting to me.

2 posted on 03/05/2010 5:05:10 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Into the 40s again today.

Can’t wait for the ground to thaw so I can get my parsnips started.


3 posted on 03/05/2010 5:06:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I think I’ll try growing some tomatoes out here on the left coast this year.

Nothing beats a big beefsteak in my book.


4 posted on 03/05/2010 5:07:10 AM PST by Beaten Valve
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To: Red_Devil 232

What a wonderful idea! Please add me to your ping list. My Mom is in a wheel chair and loves to garden, so I am looking into constructing a couple of raised beds. Looking forward to the posts. (no pun intended)


5 posted on 03/05/2010 5:07:29 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Red_Devil 232; All

It’s supposed to be really nice this weekend. It will almost seem like spring. We have a ways to go here before I can think about gardening, but looking forward to a weekend outside.

I posted the following tree question on the last garden thread, but it was far into the post, and may not have gotten much of a look:

I am looking for some advice on purchasing a tree. A large tree in our front yard died last year, and I am doing some searching around trying to figure out what new tree to plant this spring. I am in zone 6.

I know this sounds odd for the front yard, but I would love some kind of a fruit or nut tree, so the tree can do more than just look pretty. I know some fruit trees need two to pollinate, however, I don’t think we have space for two trees. I would love a Pawpaw tree, but it’s my understanding I would need two. I am interested in an Asian persimmon tree, but unsure if they can take our winters and also whether this would be too small a tree.

Any good suggestions on a beautiful tree that produces something edible as a bonus? Thanks.


6 posted on 03/05/2010 5:09:30 AM PST by chickpundit (Hi mom!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good morning! Living in CT, and New England in general, a bit behind, but when I start to see the first robins, then I will KNOW spring will be here.


7 posted on 03/05/2010 5:09:35 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Claim: SF Giving Gardeners Toxic Sludge:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_bi_ge/us_food_and_farm_sludge_compost;_ylt=Au1XcAKCWeag46dB_pEtBjm9IxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTNrNmJzMTdpBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwMzA1L3VzX2Zvb2RfYW5kX2Zhcm1fc2x1ZGdlX2NvbXBvc3QEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM3BHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDY2xhaW1zYW5mcmFu


8 posted on 03/05/2010 5:14:34 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: chickpundit
If you can't have two trees, get one that has two different types grafted to it. That way it can pollinate itself.
9 posted on 03/05/2010 5:15:02 AM PST by jimpick
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To: Red_Devil 232

Here we might make it to 40 today. Last frost is still 10 weeks away.


10 posted on 03/05/2010 5:15:52 AM PST by jimpick
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To: huldah1776

YOU HAVE

ADDED TO THE WEEKLY GARDENING PING LIST


I post the thread every Friday morning. We have some very experienced gardners who help out. Four or five are Master Gardeners and there are a couple who run garden shops or greenhouses.

So feel free to stop by any time and enjoy the thread and have a good time.

11 posted on 03/05/2010 5:19:01 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: chickpundit

Don’t know where you live, but it’s hard to go wrong with a fruit bearing crabapple.Provided you could find one. They are beautiful, can take a lot of cold, and make one hell of a jelly.


12 posted on 03/05/2010 5:22:26 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Biggirl

Interesting, saw my first robin Yesterday. They return really early here I guess so they can prepare their nests before the Spring blizzard season starts. May 15 in theory is the last chance frost day. After that, it is safe to plant outside. Even that date has become variable based on what Spring is like. So we are looking at two and one half months of further interesting weather. The real hope, is that we don’t get a too warm spring where the trees leaf out before the blizzards hit. That can be a tree disaster.


13 posted on 03/05/2010 5:23:24 AM PST by wita
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good Morning, Red!

BUMP for this afternoon. :)


14 posted on 03/05/2010 5:25:21 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I think the sap is starting to run in Northern Indiana.


15 posted on 03/05/2010 5:25:26 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: jimpick

Last frost is still 10 weeks away.

Might be helpful to know your location, to process the last frost information.


16 posted on 03/05/2010 5:26:42 AM PST by wita
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To: cripplecreek
Can’t wait for the ground to thaw so I can get my parsnips started.

Cardinals are starting to sing around my place so that's an encouraging sign.......

17 posted on 03/05/2010 5:31:04 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My boomerang won't come back)
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To: Daisyjane69

Been looking at flowering crabs for at least 20 years. They are such a spring joy to look at, but the other half of the family doesn’t want the producing kind due to the mess. So we enjoy looking at their beauty, but not yet in our yard. Planted over 40 trees, but no crab yet.


18 posted on 03/05/2010 5:32:35 AM PST by wita
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To: Biggirl; Red_Devil 232; girlangler

Good morning all. Spring is late here in middle TN. We usually have the wild daffodil blooming sometime between Jan 30 and Feb 26 (two special days for our family). In 24 years they have only missed those dates once.... until this year. No blooms yet!

It is supposed to be nice this weekend, so I hope to get some cleaning up done in the garden. The sunshine gives me hope for spring!


19 posted on 03/05/2010 5:34:49 AM PST by Grammy (Politics. .......( poli ) many ( tics ) blood suckers)
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To: chickpundit

“Any good suggestions on a beautiful tree that produces something edible as a bonus? Thanks.”

Dwarf Mount Royal Plum, any dwarf SWEET cherry tree or a dwarf peach tree (Madison or Reliance). You only need one of these trees as they don’t require another to pollinate them. (I suggest ‘dwarf’ varieties for the home grower because they’re shorter and easier to pick from and prune.)

Shameless plug for my company:

http://www.jungseed.com/dc.asp?c=241


20 posted on 03/05/2010 5:35:36 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: wita; All
Here is a site that gives estimated last frost dates. Just enter your Zip Code.

Last Frost Day By Zip Code

21 posted on 03/05/2010 5:37:09 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: huldah1776

To save yourself some aggravation and money, it’s okay to fill the base (no more than 1/4-1/3) of your raised beds wit styrofoam packing peanuts and or empty pop cans for drainage. Don’t kill yourself by trying to fill the base with stones, like houseplants!


22 posted on 03/05/2010 5:37:59 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Morning. We are finally seeing sunshine, but it’s still very cold. Hopefully, Spring will be here soon.


23 posted on 03/05/2010 5:39:32 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good morning, Diana! Don’t work to hard today.


24 posted on 03/05/2010 5:42:24 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: wita

I plant early anyhow. If there is a threat of frost, I cover up.


25 posted on 03/05/2010 5:43:43 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Drill baby, drill!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Chestnut trees.

I bought five chestnut trees (including pollinator) after researching.... I know they will grow in my zone.

BUT - do they tolerate hot dry winds???? I need to know if they need a little protection or not??

Anyone?


26 posted on 03/05/2010 5:45:51 AM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: Daisyjane69

Daisyjane have you made your move to Texas yet?


27 posted on 03/05/2010 5:47:31 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I want to put in a lilac or two this year. We are in Zone 7 - I have been told that that is pretty far south for lilacs to do well. Is this true? If so, is there a particular lilac that does well in Zone 7? I REALLY REALLY want lilacs!


28 posted on 03/05/2010 5:48:46 AM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

I’m not sure a PA frost is the same as a SD frost which could include sub zero temps, and a foot of snow with drifts up to four or five feet. Temp before 70 degrees, and temps a week later 70 degrees. Covering becomes useless. Of course this would be worst case, but Spring blizzards are usually an annual deal. We had three in a row last year. That was the first year I had a four wheeler with a plow blade. Bless me.


29 posted on 03/05/2010 5:49:38 AM PST by wita
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To: Grammy
....so I hope to get some cleaning up done in the garden.

I need to do that, too, but it's just too wet here in SE TN now. I'd love to be able to turn over my garden spot, but if I try to now I'll surely sink the tractor up to the axles. My greenhouse is producing well and has all winter, though. Broccoli, lettuce, spinach, carrots, Brussels sprouts, and onions. I'll be starting 'maters, peppers and more broccoli shortly in the greenhouse for the raised outdoor beds.

30 posted on 03/05/2010 5:54:42 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well, I have the day off, so I have to work really hard at home, LOL! This past week was ‘H3ll Week’, but I lived through it. Now I have a day off, then I get to go back for ‘H3ll Weekend’, LOL!

I really do love my job. It’s exciting and tiring this time of year and I pretty much goofed off all winter. Time to pay the piper! :)


31 posted on 03/05/2010 5:55:56 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Not yet, but I’m getting ready. Weather has been rainy here and snowy in TX! Yikes...

But I think the weather is normalizing. The daffs are blooming finally. :)


32 posted on 03/05/2010 5:57:17 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Red_Devil 232
GoodMoring !! Gardening Ping . :-)

add me too, pleaese . :-)

33 posted on 03/05/2010 5:59:05 AM PST by housemouse 1
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To: Red_Devil 232

Cool.

Each winter, on average, your risk of frost is from October 3 through May 6.
Almost certainly, however, you will receive frost from October 14 through April 24.

You are almost guaranteed that you will not get frost from May 18 through September 22.

Your frost-free growing season is around 150 days.


34 posted on 03/05/2010 5:59:08 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mrs. a
I think there are species of lilac that would survive Zone 7. From the chart below it seems that Zone 7 could be ok.


35 posted on 03/05/2010 6:02:26 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you ,this is helpful.:-)


36 posted on 03/05/2010 6:05:10 AM PST by housemouse 1
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks that puts my summer planting time up about a week.

BTW Anyone that wants to plant something now, plant peas. Sow the seed on top of the ground (or even snow) A scattering up to a foot wide works.

Then cover with some warmer soil. I usual just buy a bag or two of composted top soil as it is easier than filling a wash tub full in the fall, store either in a garage or porch to warm.

This year I’m spreading the seed in a wider trench and adding some chicken wire in the middle for them to grow up on.


37 posted on 03/05/2010 6:06:25 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: housemouse 1

YOU HAVE

ADDED TO THE WEEKLY GARDENING PING LIST

38 posted on 03/05/2010 6:07:51 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Grammy
Spring is late here in Houston too. My azaleas are usually in full bloom by now but the buds are still tightly closed. Must be globul cooling like we had in the 70s.
39 posted on 03/05/2010 6:08:55 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank You! :-)


40 posted on 03/05/2010 6:15:23 AM PST by housemouse 1
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To: Grammy

Hi Grammy,

I’m here in Tennessee too. Can’t wait for the good weather this weekend. Hoping to put out some broccoli-hope it’s the right time...
Heard on a local radio station this am that tomato prices are going through the roof. They interviewed a local owner of a sandwich shop who said that he paid 17 dollars “a case” (however many that is ) for tomatoes and that the price had gone up to 37 dollars. Boy- reason #52 to grow your own huh.
Happy gardening!


41 posted on 03/05/2010 6:15:29 AM PST by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..........)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks, I was looking at the Krasavitsa Moskvy and hoping that would work. What a nice coincidence - Diana in Wisconsin’s company sells them!


42 posted on 03/05/2010 6:17:45 AM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

That pie cherry tree special looks interesting, but it does list worst zone 5, and I live in 4 to 4.5, opinion?


43 posted on 03/05/2010 6:18:19 AM PST by wita
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To: Red_Devil 232

60s this weekend in Central VA


44 posted on 03/05/2010 6:20:29 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: hoosiermama

Hey Hoosiermama,

I’m in Nashville, TN-zone 6. Do you think I could do this now here in TN? I’ve not had much luck with peas here but would be willing to try again. Do you have a favorite variety? I would love to plant a hugh stand of bush peas if I knew they would take.

Happy gardening!


45 posted on 03/05/2010 6:20:59 AM PST by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..........)
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To: wita

I’m in Zone 4, but have a south facing area where all of my fruit trees are planted. I have four cherry trees; sour and sweet, and all are doing just fine.

There is protection from a big old evergreen treeline on the west, and I do keep the trunks wrapped with spirals to protect them from the bunnies.

So far, so good. Had a HUGE cherry crop last year - enough for two whole pies, LOL! (The trees are only about 3 years old.)


46 posted on 03/05/2010 6:21:32 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: murrie

WHen my sister lived in PA, she always bought great peas from the Amish in her neighborhood. She becam e friends with one of the teen age daughters and she gave her the tip.

I have used several different varieties...all seem to work about the same.. The secret is not to put them in rows. Keep the seeds about 1” apart and the soil about 1/2 inch deep. I’m in Southern Indiana and it works well here.

This year I’m planting just sugar peas....No shelling.


47 posted on 03/05/2010 6:27:32 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Good morning, from central Texas! We finally have had some decent, "outside-work" weather, so I've been harvesting what is left of my winter garden & prepping it for the upcoming season. I harvested my turnips earlier this week and yesterday I pulled up what seems like a thousand carrots. The pic below only shows about half my carrots - I got so many that I'm giving away.

Needless to say, the native soil is very low in organic matter. When I planted last September I was in such a hurry I didnt supplement any organic matter.

Earlier this week, I finally started my long-overdue compost pile. In the mean time, just to jump-start our spring/summer garden, I purchased a half-yard of compost from the nearby nursery. Our Kieffer pear & Methley plum trees that I planted this past December are showing some small buds. The red skin & Loring peach trees appear to be dormant, still.

48 posted on 03/05/2010 6:41:43 AM PST by texanyankee
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Not sure what zone I’m in, but I have my seedlings started inside in the little jiffy sphagnam moss balls. I was amazed to see how fast some of them had sprouted last week. Right now I am trying to get them enough light so they stop growing so tall, but I do not want to put them outside due to possible critter activity at our new house.

I imagine I will need to find some sort of fencing and posts...


49 posted on 03/05/2010 6:44:25 AM PST by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That’s a handy link for using one’s zip code to calculate frost dates. Thanks.
It confirms what I’ve been hearing from the locals - it’s planting time for some of our favorite veggies in zip code 78639.

I heard that it’s still best to wait a couple of weeks before transplanting tomatoes, however.


50 posted on 03/05/2010 6:51:43 AM PST by texanyankee
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