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Is the Glock Inherently Unsafe?
Human Events ^ | 3-2-10 | Ed Miller And Phil Elmore

Posted on 03/06/2010 8:03:05 PM PST by smokingfrog

You've seen the endless discussions on internet discussion sites. You've read the articles. You've seen the topics discussed ad nauseam by gun owners who range from novices to experts. What all these pundits have in common is a simple enough prospect, but one in which they hold the firmest of convictions and the most powerful of faiths: They are convinced that the Glock pistol is inherently unsafe.

In fact, the Glock is a remarkably popular weapon with civilians and law enforcement agencies alike. There are very good reasons for this. If the Greek philosopher, Plato, could have imagined a handgun in his world of forms-those concepts that embody the ideal versions of all we are capable of imagining, the earthly manifestations of which are but imperfect copies-he would have envisioned a combat firearm with a simple means of sighting, a barrel, a hand grip, a simple and light trigger, and a cocking and ignition mechanism that fires when the user pulls the trigger (but does not fire unless the trigger is pulled).

The closest "imperfect" manifestation of this Platonic form would be the Glock. Available in multiple popular calibers, the Glock comprises precisely the minimum number of features a combat handgun must possess. It has a comfortably sized, slip-resistant grip for the average male or female hand, which remains comfortable across a broad range of ambient temperatures. It offers a simple, easily upgradeable sighting system. It exhibits reasonable combat accuracy at 25 meters. It has an acceptable light trigger that is long enough on the first shot to permit mere mortals to recognize that the trigger finger is moving, but it has a very short trigger reset that permits rapid fire of multiple shots.

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1 posted on 03/06/2010 8:03:05 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

—NO—


2 posted on 03/06/2010 8:04:50 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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3 posted on 03/06/2010 8:06:41 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: rellimpank
If the Glock is unsafe police departments would have dropped them years ago.
4 posted on 03/06/2010 8:07:09 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: smokingfrog

I don’t think they are unsafe. I do wish they had the option of a safety in the same place as the 1911. I personally would prefer a manual safety.

If it had the safety, I would also want the light weight trigger spring.


5 posted on 03/06/2010 8:07:27 PM PST by yarddog
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To: smokingfrog
The Glock is an inherently safe firearm. The accidents I've read about involve operator error, not problems with the gun. It has no external safety, so if you press the trigger when there is a round in the chamber, the gun will go off; just like it's supposed to. If you shoot +P+ rounds in it, like the manual recommends against doing, the gun may blow up on you; just as the laws of physics predict. However, even if you do this, the strength of the gun's frame may safe your hand. Glocks have a tendency to blow up and out, away from the shooter. I've seen pictures of blown-up Gocks with the trigger jammed into the guard by the force of the explosion. In other words, the frame took the blow instead of the shooter's hand.
6 posted on 03/06/2010 8:09:40 PM PST by Redcloak (Messin' up threads since 1998)
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To: smokingfrog

Proud owner of 2 Glocks and 1 Toyota..If you do not want to shoot the gun ,do not pull the trigger..
DUH..
Slainte.


7 posted on 03/06/2010 8:10:29 PM PST by GSP.FAN (These are the times that try men's souls.)
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To: yarddog

Look at the Smith and Wesson M&P, which does provide for an optional ambidextrous safety. The grip has inter-changable inserts for various hand sizes and is (to me) more ergonomic.. Added bonus is that you are not giving your money to some uppity Euro company.


8 posted on 03/06/2010 8:13:56 PM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: smokingfrog

I have a G-26, first Gun I ever bought. Now for me I have found out I don’t connect to it as I thought I would have. The Sig and I connect, the HK-USP and I connect, hell the SW-357 and I connect. Having a firearm is like finding a girlfriend I have found out. I will be trading it in on something else....., but thats just me.


9 posted on 03/06/2010 8:13:58 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: smokingfrog

Think of the Glock as a high capacity revolver with a 5 1/2lb trigger. No safties and very simple. Point and click.
I love mine.


10 posted on 03/06/2010 8:14:22 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Thank you....


11 posted on 03/06/2010 8:14:55 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Armed And Cantankerous.)
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To: smokingfrog
I think it depends on which end of the barrel you are on (or at).
12 posted on 03/06/2010 8:15:06 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: smokingfrog

My own PERSONAL preference is for an external safety. But, I do carry a double action only pocket pistol that has a heavy trigger pull as a safety. I guess I consider the Glock (with the safety switch on the trigger)in a good holster to be as safe as a strong trigger pull/no safety in the same sort of holster. It is when the gun is out of the holster that I think the Glock is somewhat less safe. Glocks have been super reliable and accurate for me so there is some fodder for the other side of the argument. I have a Glock, but usually carry a 1911 style pistol with external safety. I must say that I have carried a Glock in the past and would do so again with no reservations.


13 posted on 03/06/2010 8:19:05 PM PST by MtnClimber (A government powerful enough to determine my quality-adjusted life years is no longer limited govt!)
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To: umgud

Me too. :-)


14 posted on 03/06/2010 8:19:17 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Redcloak

I heard a story about a cop who hung his glock from a coathook in a bathroom stall by the trigger guard. He bumped the gun and it emptied the entire magazine before it stopped twirling around. And nobody got hurt...

Not sure it is true, but it does make an amusing story!


15 posted on 03/06/2010 8:20:01 PM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: smokingfrog

Ed Miller, and Phil Elmore are spot on...but not about the Glock.

Every weapon that I used to own (before the tragic tsunami induced capsizing, just off the coast of Santiago, Chile) was an inherently unsafe weapon...to those just beyond the muzzle...


16 posted on 03/06/2010 8:20:34 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: smokingfrog

Only if you are standing in front of it and I have good reason to pull the trigger!


17 posted on 03/06/2010 8:21:15 PM PST by dalereed
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To: cmsgop

I am sort of like you. I have owned several Glocks including an oddball 17L which had the long slide and the cutouts but a solid barrel. Also a model 19, model 21 and several 17’s.

They are excellent guns and I could certainly live with one but it is not quite my cup of tea. My next auto will probably be a 1911, preferably a Colt series 70 but a lot of others would be fine. I also really like the Sig P226 and 220.

My all time favorite tho is the Browning Hi-Power. It just feels perfect in my hand.


18 posted on 03/06/2010 8:21:50 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Haiku Guy

Now you’re going to get somebody to try this. :-)


19 posted on 03/06/2010 8:21:54 PM PST by meyer ("It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side" - G. Beck)
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To: smokingfrog

I like the Glock, but I got a couple of H&K squeeze cockers because my wife feels very comfortable having them around kids.

She thinks that by the time a child is old enough and big enough to squeeze and cock it, the child is old enough to know what to do with a gun.


20 posted on 03/06/2010 8:22:28 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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