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Prius with stuck accelerator glides to safe stop - runaway Toyota
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Posted on 03/08/2010 10:56:10 PM PST by JoeProBono

EL CAJON, Calif. (AP) -- A California Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop on Monday after the car's accelerator became stuck on a San Diego County freeway, the CHP said.

Prius driver James Sikes called 911 about 1:30 p.m. after accelerating to pass another vehicle on Interstate 8 near La Posta and finding that he could not control his car, the CHP said.

"I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny...

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KEYWORDS: california; jamessikes; jpb; prius; runaway; toyota; warontoyota
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1 posted on 03/08/2010 10:56:11 PM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

I’m calling horseshit.


2 posted on 03/08/2010 11:01:46 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

So am I.


3 posted on 03/08/2010 11:06:06 PM PST by Gator113 (I do not want Obama IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED.)
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To: Gator113

don’t you just put it in neutral and brake hard, and as the car starts to slow down you steer to the side of the road?


4 posted on 03/08/2010 11:07:35 PM PST by cherry
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To: JoeProBono

Is it actually impossible to shut off the ignition in these Death Cars of the Future?


5 posted on 03/08/2010 11:10:15 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: cherry

If the accelerator has gone nuts, putting it in neutral is the last thing you want to do, I would think.


6 posted on 03/08/2010 11:12:11 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Chet 99
"I’m calling horseshit."

I drive a 1989 Dodge Ram 150 and it does what I tell it to do. The milege isn't the greatest but what the hell, I can afford the fuel bill for now.

As for Toyota this is a hit on them because they are not union. And I believe anyone who owns a Prius is far to stupid to vote. My humble opinion.

7 posted on 03/08/2010 11:15:58 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: cherry

Yes.


8 posted on 03/08/2010 11:16:42 PM PST by Gator113 (I do not want Obama IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED.)
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To: JoeProBono

They're here and they're out to get us.

9 posted on 03/08/2010 11:17:10 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Arthur McGowan

So you blow up your engine versus having a run away car?

I haven’t been able to figure out why people haven’t done this .... or turned it off so I looked it up and found an article saying to turn the ignition to ACC so you still have power steering and brakes.


10 posted on 03/08/2010 11:18:54 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

“If the accelerator has gone nuts, putting it in neutral is the last thing you want to do, I would think.”

I would think it would be better to blow your engine than to crash - possibly crashing into others. The engines in those probably just sound like a mosquito anyway when they are over-revving.


11 posted on 03/08/2010 11:18:58 PM PST by howlinhound (ARE PLAN AS PRO)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Well, if you want to stop forward movement, that’s what you need to do.


12 posted on 03/08/2010 11:19:01 PM PST by Gator113 (I do not want Obama IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED.)
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To: blackbart.223
This is obamanoids trying to destroy the competition.
13 posted on 03/08/2010 11:21:33 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Chet 99

People are idiots, why don’t they just turn it off right away?

I can believe the fact that a Prius can’t be stopped by brakes if the acceleration is going because the electric motor has a lot more torque than a gasoline engine, but I can’t buy that so many people are this dumb.

I may be missing something, but I don’t think so.


14 posted on 03/08/2010 11:23:17 PM PST by dila813
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To: Arthur McGowan

wrong,
it is the best shot you got

keep in mind that nowadays,
many cars use goofy ‘keyless’ keys


15 posted on 03/08/2010 11:23:56 PM PST by element92
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To: JoeProBono

A Prius can do 94 mph?? I’m amazed and aghast.


16 posted on 03/08/2010 11:26:35 PM PST by Hardraade
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To: element92
keep in mind that nowadays, many cars use goofy ‘keyless’ keys

Are those those ads I keep seeing on TV where it shows someone's hand pushing a button that says something like "start engine"? I've seen on associated with Toyota, Kia, Lexus, etc.

17 posted on 03/08/2010 11:27:51 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Jet Jaguar
"This is obamanoids trying to destroy the competition."

I agree. But you couldn't give me a Prius. I like some steel around me.

18 posted on 03/08/2010 11:29:32 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

I drive a big pickup as a daily driver. I also have a old Ford (72) sedan.

They are reliable, and if they break, I can fix them, myself.


19 posted on 03/08/2010 11:32:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: dila813
I may be missing something, but I don’t think so.

When a Prius is going 100mph the electric motor has long since ceased to assist the gas engine.

Maybe we'll hear that Algore's son, who was pulled over and busted for being drunk and high while driving his Prius at 100mph, will soon start blaming unintentional acceleration for his Prius problem.

20 posted on 03/08/2010 11:38:07 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Democrats and Pelosi. The party of thieves, liars and tax cheats)
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To: dila813

Don’t turn the car off. From the DMV:

STUCK ACCELERATOR

If your accelerator becomes stuck, you should:

1. Shift to neutral.
2. Apply the brakes.
3. Keep your eyes on the road.
4. Look for a way out.
5. Warn other drivers by honking and flashing your emergency lights.
6. Try to drive the car safely off the road.
7. When you no longer need to change direction and have stopped, turn off the ignition. (Turning off the key locks the steering wheel of many vehicles.)


21 posted on 03/08/2010 11:38:19 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JoeProBono
After the car decelerated to about 50 mph, Sikes turned off the engine and coasted to a halt.

Why didn't he do this in the first place?

22 posted on 03/08/2010 11:38:20 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Aria

Don’t worry about the engine. Today’s computer controlled cars have rev limiters to prevent over reving and damaging the engine. If the engine has no previous mechanical faults it will survive.


23 posted on 03/09/2010 12:13:33 AM PST by biff
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For about 30 hair-raising miles beginning near Lake Jennings Park Road near Flinn Springs, Sikes tried frantically to slow down the 2008 hybrid. At one point the speedometer hit 94 mph, said Sikes, who called 911. A CHP officer was dispatched and while driving alongside, coached Sikes over a loudspeaker on how to get control of the car, a process that involved the brakes, the emergency brake and, when the speed came down some, turning off the ignition
24 posted on 03/09/2010 12:31:12 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Chet 99

It’ s awfully, awfully fishy that most of the news of the past few weeks is about “how bad Toyota” cars are. Day and night on CNN, for instance. Anyone not born yesterday has got to realize this an organized and planned attempt to bring down Toyota. The whole thing is just too pat.


25 posted on 03/09/2010 12:35:49 AM PST by Mack Truck ( CAIR is the biggest enemy of free speech and freedom in America.)
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To: SoCalPol

Well duh; i.e. ways to get the car under control!!!! Some people have no business being behind the wheel.


26 posted on 03/09/2010 12:38:05 AM PST by ut1992 (Army Brat)
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To: Chet 99

“I’m calling horseshit.”

Me too. I mean a Prius hitting 94 when he still had access to his brakes! Honestly though i’d imagine that at this point the overwhelming majority of claims in the trial lawyer’s paradise are from people hoping for a quick payday.


27 posted on 03/09/2010 12:44:41 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: ut1992

“Some people have no business being behind the wheel.”

We call these people women.


28 posted on 03/09/2010 12:46:57 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: hinckley buzzard
Why didn't he do this in the first place?

My understanding is the car programming prevents shifting into neutral or shutting off the ignition at certain speeds. According to another engineer I have spoken with this is a very real problem.
29 posted on 03/09/2010 12:50:14 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: JoeProBono

If a Prius has a stuck accelerator, who would notice?


30 posted on 03/09/2010 12:52:35 AM PST by meyer ("It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side" - G. Beck)
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To: Aria

I’ll take a blown engine any day over dead and dismemberment.

I’ve tested my cars, manual and automatic. I pretended I had a stuck accelerator.

Neutral was fine other than high engine rev, since controlled experiment I kept it below red line till stop.

Turning key to acc. Kept power steering and brakes. Drifted safely to a stop without high engine rev, and steering did not lock up.

No problem.

Note also that I learned to do these things before I was legally able to drive in case of a runaway car, just recently tested again because of all these stuck accelerator crashes.

My opinion, stuck accelerator cause by a manufacturers defect. Accidents and wrecks with stuck accelerator caused by operator error.


31 posted on 03/09/2010 12:53:21 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Mack Truck
It’ s awfully, awfully fishy that most of the news of the past few weeks is about “how bad Toyota” cars are. Day and night on CNN, for instance.

What do you expect when the mainstream media is the advertizing arm of the Obama administration, which coincidentally owns a good portion of GM? This is all about eliminating 'Government Motors' non-union competitors, one at a time.

32 posted on 03/09/2010 12:55:09 AM PST by meyer ("It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side" - G. Beck)
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To: JoeProBono
At one point the speedometer hit 94 mph

Bah that's the amount an officer in Blythe, CA wrote me a ticket for because he didn't believe my car could do 120+ :)

33 posted on 03/09/2010 12:55:14 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: JoeProBono

A couple of posts seem to have forgotten if you turn the key off the steering wheel locks.


34 posted on 03/09/2010 1:00:55 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
A couple of posts seem to have forgotten if you turn the key off the steering wheel locks.

I haven't had a car in a long time that doesn't have a key position between "run" and "lock". On my Escape, it's an off position, and on my Honda, it's an 'accessory' position. Both turn the engine off.

35 posted on 03/09/2010 1:31:42 AM PST by meyer ("It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side" - G. Beck)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’ve not seen that kind.
..........................
I useta work in a rent-a-car place.

goofy keys I have seen.

blob kind, goes into a slot on the dash
blob kind #2, you keep in your pocket
.........................
the issue being ...
some cars use a ...Button... to kill the engine
(not the key cylinder on the steering-collumn)

which can be confusing to a person renting a car,
who gets in a panic


36 posted on 03/09/2010 1:32:27 AM PST by element92
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To: element92
which can be confusing to a person renting a car, who gets in a panic

Or, just anyone who buys a new car. They generally don't give lessons with the new car.

I have been noticing several TV ads out now that show the person starting the car buy pushing a button on the steering wheel. The ads are npt necessarily car ads, and I forget what they were advertising. But, I've noticed them dealing with Lexus, Kia, Toyota, and even some GM models. I've never actually seen such a car. Are they on the arket?

37 posted on 03/09/2010 1:43:37 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes, our Toyota Venza does not have a key, only the push button. You keep a fob on you (or in my case in my purse) and that sends the signal to the engine. You step on the brake, hit the button, and the car starts. There is no key for even the doors.


38 posted on 03/09/2010 2:03:54 AM PST by codercpc
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To: afraidfortherepublic

my point is,
with the new keys.............

key
ignition...on/off
crank
.......................
are not in the same place anymore


39 posted on 03/09/2010 2:05:21 AM PST by element92
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To: JoeProBono

My guess? he’s a liberal and he’s looking for a pay day. It’s also possible he was put up to it.


40 posted on 03/09/2010 2:39:25 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Arthur McGowan

Wrong. Buying an engine is cheaper than a major car crash.


41 posted on 03/09/2010 2:41:17 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: Hardraade
A Prius can do 94 mph?? I’m amazed and aghast.

Yes they can. Son of Gore was busted in a Prius going 100 mph.

42 posted on 03/09/2010 2:47:21 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: codercpc
Yes, our Toyota Venza does not have a key, only the push button.

It's been pointed out that to shut down your car when it's moving you have to hold the button down for three seconds. Many people don't realize this because they don't read the manual. In other words, anything you do has to be with the approval of your car's computer.

43 posted on 03/09/2010 2:53:03 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: Fresh Wind

Thanks for that reminder. It may be important to someone on this thread in the future.


44 posted on 03/09/2010 3:04:44 AM PST by codercpc
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To: Fresh Wind

If your accelerator becomes stuck, you should:

1. Shift to neutral.( In drive by wire vehicles with automatic transmissions the gear selector lever is nothing more than a switch and this may not shift the transmission to neutral with a computer malfunction)
2. Apply the brakes.
3. Keep your eyes on the road.
4. Look for a way out.
5. Warn other drivers by honking and flashing your emergency lights.
6. Try to drive the car safely off the road.
7. When you no longer need to change direction and have stopped, turn off the ignition. (Turning off the key locks the steering wheel of many vehicles.)(Also in vehicle with push button start or auto sequence starting where you turn and release the key, the engine may not shut off during a computer malfuncion)

Modern drive by wire vehicles actually need to have emegency shutdown switches that disconnect the battery and the alternator from suppling electricity to the vehicle in an emergency.


45 posted on 03/09/2010 3:10:40 AM PST by Wooly
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To: Hardraade
A Prius can do 94 mph?? I’m amazed and aghast.

In 2003 I got one as a loaner when I dropped off my Tundra to have some work done. I was late to work that day so I did some aggressive driving on the interstate. 94...no problem. Al Gore son was arrested a few years ago for driving over 100 in his. These aren't muscle cars from the 60's, but they are peppy little sleds.

46 posted on 03/09/2010 3:31:06 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: codercpc

Interesting video for a Venza owner here:

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8980024


47 posted on 03/09/2010 3:31:08 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: Chet 99; Gator113

More media lies: How ABC News’ Brian Ross staged his Toyota death ride
http://www.infowars.com/more-media-lies-how-abc-news-brian-ross-staged-his-toyota-death-ride
Gawker | Brian Ross, America’s Wrongest Reporter, has been credited with owning the Toyota recall story, including one memorable report with Ross behind the wheel of an out-of-control car. He did it by splicing in staged footage to make it look scarier. [snip]


48 posted on 03/09/2010 3:33:53 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (ONLINE TAX REVOLT 150,000 AND GROWING. http://www.onlinetaxrevolt.com)
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To: JoeProBono
"I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny...

A Prius can pass other cars??? ;^)

49 posted on 03/09/2010 3:36:46 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Mack Truck

The owner of GM (Obama) gets to investigate its’ biggest competitor, who happens to be non-union. Meanwhile, GM recalls 1.3 million cars for steering defects and the MSM doesn’t even notice.


50 posted on 03/09/2010 3:53:52 AM PST by anoldafvet (As of 12/24/2009, no more democrats elected - ever)
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