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Harassed by the U.S. Census: A Friend Tells Her Frightening Story
DebbiesSchlussel.com ^ | 8MAR2010 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 03/09/2010 7:15:30 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine

Last summer, my friend was selected for the 'pilot program' for the U.S. Census and tells me the frightening story of how U.S. Census workers repeatedly harassed her because she refused to fill out the ten-page questionnaire (which asked detailed, intrusive questions about her insurance, her kids' schooling, how it was paid for and how they were transported there, etc.). Because she refused to fill out the form, a census worker visited her home over ten times, trying to threaten her into filling out the form. The census worker even put a copy of 'the law' in her mailbox, with something about being prosecuted highlighted. The census worker told my friend that her participation was necessary to determine government social services, to which my friend replied that she doesn't depend on the government and that they should pry into the lives of those who take welfare checks.

My friend, a teacher, wondered how a tiny requirement in the U.S. Constitution, requiring a count of American residents, resulted in Big Brother government suddenly demanding detailed personal information about her family. My friend repeatedly told the census worker, "We have four people in our household. That's all I'm required to tell you, and that's all you need to know." Unfortunately, shortly after that, my friend and her husband were audited by the IRS over an alleged discrepancy of $150. Here's more from my friend:

(Excerpt) Read more at debbieschlussel.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 2010census; bureaucracy; census; government; liberalfascism; taxes; tyranny

1 posted on 03/09/2010 7:15:31 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I think during the last census they sent out these humongous forms for some people.

The 2010 Census claims it's only 10 questions.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php

2 posted on 03/09/2010 7:20:06 PM PST by SmartInsight
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To: Jack Hydrazine

From Debbie’s site a poster had this video about how to take the Census with the hilarious Christopher Walken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtuPvwBa2U


3 posted on 03/09/2010 7:22:18 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And here is the stupidest reasoning for one of the questions in the current census:

Question 5: “Please provide information for each person living here. Start with a person here who owns or rents this house, apartment, or mobile home. If the owner or renter lives somewhere else, start with any adult living here. This will be Person 1. What is Person 1’s name?”

Reason claimed for this question:

“Listing the name of each person in the household helps the respondent to include all members, particularly in large households where a respondent may forget who was counted and who was not.”

They must be thinking about a house where 30 illegal aliens are hiding — I am sure they will be filling out the census form. (/sarc)


4 posted on 03/09/2010 7:24:56 PM PST by SmartInsight
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I received a notice today I will receive the census in one week. They waste taxpayers money with one piece of mail informing me about another piece of mail and the last part informing people of their website was written in five languages other than English!


5 posted on 03/09/2010 7:25:01 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I was sitting in my psychologists office today. Someone came out and said to a guy sitting by me who, I hadn't noticed, "You're the gentleman from the Census?" - blah blah blah....and after some pleasantries which indicated this was obviously official counting business, they went back to a meeting room.

I mean...WTF?

6 posted on 03/09/2010 7:25:42 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Man50D

I got a visit the last time they did this. I told them the number of people in the house and shut the door. He musta filled out the rest himself.


7 posted on 03/09/2010 7:27:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SmartInsight

When the ask about race...check “other” and write in American


8 posted on 03/09/2010 7:29:04 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

I’ve been debating that or just filling it out with random info.


9 posted on 03/09/2010 7:29:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

how would they know if you intentionally lied in ways not easy to notice?

Like saying you had 4 people living there and 11 toilets for instance?

Or saying you had 2 white people and 3 pacific islanders living there?

What if you consider yourself American Indian when the only blood there is from when you cut yourself shaving at the cherokee sun casino hotel bathroom?


10 posted on 03/09/2010 7:31:32 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
This article NAMES a harassing Census worker. Huh. That's a heckuva good idea, and why not some accompanying photos and videos?

They could find themselves on an internet site...Census Workers to watch out for...

11 posted on 03/09/2010 7:32:50 PM PST by Mamzelle (On FR, watch out for the Club of late-2004)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They can’t get to my door without scaling a 7 foot gate. I will answer only those questions I see fit to answer, and that might even be zero. Eff everything the Obama admin does.


12 posted on 03/09/2010 7:32:57 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: driftdiver

I am considering putting down that I am a bi-racial, transexual with a felony record who is also an illegal alien. I figure I might get a cushy union job with that resume or maybe they will let me run the Treasury Department or TSA.


13 posted on 03/09/2010 7:33:34 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“The census worker even put a copy of ‘the law’ in her mailbox...”
Am I correct in suggesting that if the census worker “put” (not mailed) something in her mailbox, that the census worker could be charged for tampering with the property of the U.S. Mail? (the mailbox itself) After all, the census worker is not a postal worker.


14 posted on 03/09/2010 7:35:53 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: y'all

Last time I went the other way.

I wrote 33 Hispanics and 6 African-Americans
lived in my small 3BR house with an income
of $23.50 per year.

We have 19 cars, but walk to work.

Four teens in the house were pregnant, but
all were getting abortions next week.

We are 9 years late on our rent to the white
Catholic landlord.

We live very well on the food stamp program
as 13 of us have 3 social security numbers
the others only have two (slackers).

15 are HS dropouts, but selling crack, powder,
and pot is steady work. Crackers love the
powder.

Oops, somebody just popped a cap in Sancho,
so make that 32 Hispanics.

I never heard back. Just a normal SoCal family.


15 posted on 03/09/2010 7:36:10 PM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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To: Drango
When the ask about race...check “other” and write in American

The last three censuses I have answered the race question with, "human".

Cordially,

16 posted on 03/09/2010 7:38:22 PM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Mortrey; Jack Hydrazine

18 U.S.C. 1725

“Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved, or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title.”

Ironically, putting a copy of “the law” in the lady’s mailbox is itself a violation of federal law.


17 posted on 03/09/2010 7:41:38 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Man50D
I received a notice today I will receive the census in one week.

They are just using Tax dollars to try and give the Post Office a little more business.

18 posted on 03/09/2010 8:06:02 PM PST by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: SmartInsight

Back in January I received this piece of advice from a friend:

2010 Census Begins Soon
Some helpful info to keep in mind....

THIS IS PRETTY BASIC ADVICE;
Be Cautious about giving info to Census Workers, by the BBB.

With the U.S. Census process beginning, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) advises people to be cooperative, but cautious, so as not to become a victim of fraud or identity theft. The first phase of the 2010 U.S. Census is under way as workers have begun verifying the addresses of households across the country. Eventually, more than 140,000 U.S. Census workers will count every person in the United States and will gather information about every person living at each address including name, age, gender, race, and other relevant data.

The big question is - how do you tell the difference between a U.S. Census worker and a con artist? The BBB offers the following advice:

If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag, and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. However, you should never invite anyone you don’t know into your home.

Census workers are currently only knocking on doors to verify address information. Do not give your Social Security number, credit card number or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. Census.

REMEMBER, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ASK, YOU REALLY ONLY NEED TO TELL THEM HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE AT YOUR ADDRESS.

While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as a salary range, YOU DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION. The Census Bureau will not ask for Social Security, bank account, or credit card numbers, nor will employees solicit donations. Anyone asking for that information is NOT with the Census Bureau.

AND REMEMBER, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS DECIDED NOT TO WORK WITH ACORN ON GATHERING THIS INFORMATION.. No Acorn worker should approach you saying he/she is with the Census Bureau.

Eventually, Census workers may contact you by telephone, mail, or in person at home. However, the Census Bureau will NOT contact you by E-mail, so be on the lookout for Email scams impersonating the Census.

Never click on a link or open any attachments in an E-mail that are supposedly from the U.S.Census Bureau.

For more advice on avoiding identity theft and fraud, visit www.bbb.org

PLEASE SHARE THIS INFO WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.


19 posted on 03/09/2010 8:06:37 PM PST by 353FMG (What can Islam possibly contribute to the West other than its very destruction?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There won't be any census form filed by *this* household and nobody in it will be talking to any census workers...regardless of how persistent or threatening they are.

We WANT this state to lose as many Congressional districts as possible.

20 posted on 03/09/2010 8:07:31 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Sloth

I think there is a possible fine of $100 if you do not provide information. If you provide false information, the fine goes up to maybe $500.


21 posted on 03/09/2010 8:08:27 PM PST by Eleven Bravo 6 319thID
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To: SmartInsight

“What is Person One’s name?” best answer: Person One


22 posted on 03/09/2010 8:12:01 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: SmartInsight
Hey, DA, some of my ancestors had as many as 23 people in their immediate nuclear families ~ all present at one house.

They had no trouble answering those questions ~ I've even seen the original copies.

(BTW, if you're an Harrison-Adams descendant, that's who I'm talking about ~ Although the Presidents weren't all that prolific, John Adams' daughter and Harrison's son definitely FOUNDED as much as they could). Many of their children FOUNDED even more Founding!

23 posted on 03/09/2010 8:12:37 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That is almost as horrible as what they had to put up with in Cambodia, what with the death squads, the mass murder, the enslavement, the killing fields.

Sounds like it was harrowing and terrible, I hope they got through it all.


24 posted on 03/09/2010 8:12:53 PM PST by big tent
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The census workers are welcome here in Maine....the red carpet is out. ;)
25 posted on 03/09/2010 8:14:39 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Drango

I had a black telephone repairman tell me when they asked his race on anything he always put ‘Human’.


26 posted on 03/09/2010 8:46:36 PM PST by Dudoight
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To: SmartInsight
They must be thinking about a house where 30 illegal aliens are hiding — I am sure they will be filling out the census form. (/sarc)

No sarcasm tag necessary -

Here in North Little Rock, Arkansas, there are colorful signs on many street corners in SPANISH encouraging everyone to participate in the Census...

27 posted on 03/09/2010 9:03:41 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What authority does the government have to do anything more than a head count? I haven’t seen such in the Constitution. But that is just a “living document” that can be “moulded” to fit the circumstances (aka - agenda) of the current administration.

All the government “needs” to know - how many people live here? Period. Anything more is a violation of privacy.


28 posted on 03/09/2010 9:05:22 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Drango
"When the ask about race...check “other” and write in American"

I'm going to enter my DNA haplogroup; yDNA = R1b and mtDNA = 'V'.

29 posted on 03/09/2010 9:14:58 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

I just send ‘em my whole genome and let ‘em figure it out.


30 posted on 03/09/2010 9:18:40 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; goldstategop

Ms. Schlussel & Mr. Day are talking like one of those whacked-out Ron Paul supporters now. They know good & well that you have nothing to fear about the census unless you have something to hide.

What are you trying to hide, Jerry? < / sarc >


31 posted on 03/09/2010 10:11:25 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: 353FMG

Best thing is to mail back the census form, ASAP after you got it. I read that if they receive it, you will not be contacted by census workers, so if anyone comes to your door, claiming to be one, you can be sure they are fakes, don’t open the door, don’t talk to them.

There are many burgleries, where they come to your door, and push their way in, once you open it. This is a great opportunity for such criminals. If you get a real census worker, ask them to leave the form and go away, don’t open the door, because you just can’t be sure.


32 posted on 03/10/2010 1:05:50 AM PST by SmartInsight
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To: Frantzie; SkyDancer; lysie; Jemian; BlackFemaleConservative; Victoria Delsoul
That was hilarious!

Nice start to the day.

33 posted on 03/10/2010 3:38:55 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Northern Yankee
LOL

Good morning.

34 posted on 03/10/2010 4:54:50 AM PST by lysie
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To: OnTheDress

LOL!


35 posted on 03/10/2010 5:03:20 AM PST by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: Drango
When the ask about race...check “other” and write in American

I filled mine out as: Native American (I was borne in the USA)

36 posted on 03/10/2010 12:14:14 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Constitutional Topic: The Census

THE 2010 CENSUS - How much information are you really required to give?

The Census has grown beyond it's bounds.

The Census Is Getting Personal (YouTube)

37 posted on 03/10/2010 12:41:14 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I plan to say how many and for the future geneologist I probably will give name, gender how many. BUT before I will talk to anyone I plan to ask them to fill out this info on them:

http://freedomlaw.com/PSQuestn.html

This is 2 pages about of their info, if they make it thru my questions (and show ID to prove it) then I will tell them two people live here. I doubt many would come back for the invasion of their privacy.

I will try to remember to record this and have my Constitution handy too.


38 posted on 03/10/2010 7:26:39 PM PST by The Bat Lady (the Global Warming HOAX has been revealed 11/19/09, it is over. You lied, you lost!)
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To: The Bat Lady

Thanks for the info. Great stuff to have on hand when they show up.


39 posted on 03/10/2010 7:52:35 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: SmartInsight
They are handing envelope packets to you with your address on it( no name) and asking you to fill it out and mail it in by april 1st. (Aprils fools / not) This nice senior came to my came to door this morinng, well i thank her, but they will only get , how many live here and there ages and thats it, if they get that.
40 posted on 03/11/2010 2:54:49 PM PST by housemouse 1
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To: Northern Yankee

Thanks for sharing this story. This Administration is clearly out of control. I believe the Census is supposed to be non-partisan, but I have gotten to the point that I do not trust this Admistration at all.

Best regards,

BFC


41 posted on 03/16/2010 7:04:55 PM PDT by BlackFemaleConservative
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