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Open to the public for the first time in 145 years, Brunel Tunnel under the Thames
Daily Mail ^ | March 12, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 03/12/2010 7:16:12 AM PST by C19fan

The public is to get its first chance in 145 years to see the Brunnel tunnel under the Thames that was hailed as an eighth wonder of the world and a triumph of Victorian engineering. The tunnel is open today and tomorrow and a Fancy Fair originally held in 1852 below the river will be recreated at the nearby Brunel Museum. It was built between 1825 and 1843 by Marc Brunel and his son, Isambard, and was the first known to have been built beneath a navigable river.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: brunel; engineering; godsgravesglyphs; thames; victorian
The technique Brunel developed to build the tunnel is still used today; including building the Chunnel. I wish I can see it. Magnificant piece of Victorian engineering and ingenuity.
1 posted on 03/12/2010 7:16:13 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

I read a book about the Brunels. They are simply geniuses.


3 posted on 03/12/2010 7:22:05 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: C19fan

I thought I recognized the name - but it was Marc Brunel’s son who built the Bristol (U.K.) suspension bridge. Very beautiful bridge, especially in the spring during the Bristol Hot-Air Balloon festival. Love Bristol!


4 posted on 03/12/2010 7:24:56 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: caver

5 posted on 03/12/2010 7:25:02 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: C19fan

WOW

That must be something...


6 posted on 03/12/2010 7:28:07 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SunkenCiv; Las Vegas Ron

*ping*


7 posted on 03/12/2010 7:31:43 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Tennessee Nana
..and designed w/pencil & paper.

In some way, there was more common sense intelligence prevailing, before electronic intell., I mean.

8 posted on 03/12/2010 7:33:25 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: C19fan
When the ideas, imaginations and desires of man are allowed to move and grow freely, civilization grows, advances and flourishes.

Now, of course I'm NOT refering to the sin nature of man, but his more temporal abilities.

America is a wonderful example of what can happen in a short time when men with ideas and passion are allowed to make the attempt to succeed or fail.


Government, with all it's rules, regulations and laws stifle that momentum.

9 posted on 03/12/2010 7:36:29 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: norraad

That’s because they memorized multiplication tables.


10 posted on 03/12/2010 7:37:22 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: C19fan

Cool stuff.


11 posted on 03/12/2010 7:43:05 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: hennie pennie

Very interesting, thank you for the ping!


12 posted on 03/12/2010 7:49:02 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: C19fan

Thats why Tiny Tim had to use a crutch. He was injured working the night shift on the tunnel construction.


13 posted on 03/12/2010 8:02:03 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: C19fan

“Isambard Kingdom Brunel”. Dickens himself would be hard pressed to come up with a better name for a character.

Except perhaps for “Lady Remington” and “Matthew Drudge.”


14 posted on 03/12/2010 8:03:54 AM PST by Erasmus (Give to the Antonio Janigro College Fund; a strong bow is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: C19fan
I don't have claustrophobia. But, I think I might develop it roaming the arcades 'neath the mighty Thames River.

But if the ye olde shoppes were tempting and engrossing enough, I might be motivated enough to take the plunge.

(....gurgle......)

Leni

15 posted on 03/12/2010 8:05:55 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: norraad
"..and designed w/pencil & paper. In some way, there was more common sense intelligence prevailing, before electronic intell., I mean."

Indeed. Try telling a group of college students that workable fax machines have been in use for over a hundred years, as I did a while back. Several of them all but called me a liar. "How did they digitize the signal?" one of them demanded. Similarly, it is hard for young people to conceive of things like the SR-71 or the first Moon rockets being designed without what we would consider substantial computing power. The accuracy of 19th century navigators, equipped only with mechanical chronometers, a sextant, and some astronomical tables, would seem like some kind of witchcraft to the present generation. This kind of ignorance could well explain the popularity of nutball theories about all modern technology being borrowed from UFOs or recovered from ancient Atlantis.

16 posted on 03/12/2010 8:15:12 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: C19fan

I wonder how they avoided the bends.


17 posted on 03/12/2010 8:18:18 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: tgusa

Well, the son took over day to day overseeing in the 1820s. He was almost killed in a tunnel flooding in 1828, I think, and then sent to recover at Clifton, where he witnessed the building of the Clifton suspension bridge. The article didn’t make clear why that was significant, but you’ve cleared it up for me. And I’ve cleared something up for you.

FASCINATING story. I love that era.


18 posted on 03/12/2010 8:20:46 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: C19fan

19 posted on 03/12/2010 8:23:14 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: ichabod1

I worked in Bristol for just under 6 months a few years back. Love the area. Fascinating how the sailing ships rode the tide up the river - Avon? - making Bristol a seaport.


20 posted on 03/12/2010 8:27:17 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: ichabod1

They didn’t if it was pressurized. It’s called Caisson’s disease


21 posted on 03/12/2010 8:30:50 AM PST by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: OregonRancher; ichabod1

They discovered that they had to depressurize slowly, just like modern day divers.

America’s closest equivalent to the Brunels were the German immigrant John Roebling and his sons and grandsons. Responsible for the Brooklyn Bridge (1867), workers (and Roebling himself) were badly injured by the ‘bends’ when coming up from the pressurized footing-construction caissons extending below riverbed level. They shortly rigged up decompression chambers to combat the problem.


22 posted on 03/12/2010 8:56:45 AM PST by Erasmus (Give to the Antonio Janigro College Fund; a strong bow is a terrible thing to waste.)
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23 posted on 03/12/2010 9:26:05 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: C19fan

cool , bookmarked


24 posted on 03/12/2010 10:03:22 AM PST by housemouse 1
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I gotta plead ignorance. Is that guy named Brunel?


25 posted on 03/12/2010 10:27:56 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

Mark Brunell-QB


26 posted on 03/12/2010 10:31:14 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Erasmus

Yes, but this was like 30-40 years before Roebling. It was the Roebling case that made me wonder. Maybe the Thames, not being very deep, was not far enough down to create as hazardous a situation.


27 posted on 03/12/2010 12:21:41 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Erasmus

OK, I’ve been reading about this all afternoon, rather than working. I think the reason they didn’t experience it is that they weren’t breathing pressurized air. The caissons on the Eads and Brooklyn bridges were closed at the top and air was pumped in, which was also the mechanism by which the castings were brought out the center tube, called the “muck tube, i.e., the muck tube sucked the castings out. Apparently muck is a combination of mud and rock, which I never knew. I thought it was mud that sucked.


28 posted on 03/12/2010 1:42:21 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: C19fan

Brunel was also instrumental in the building of the Crystal Palace.


29 posted on 03/12/2010 1:43:52 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: ichabod1

You may be right about the Thames tunnel construction not being pressurized.

There are stories of polluted water and gases forcing their way into the tunnel. That suggests that they were working at essentially ground-level atmospheric pressure.

On the other hand they must have been 100 feet below the surface, and that would mean significant hydrostatic pressure to hold off with the sliding-form system (invented by the elder Brunel) without assistance from air pressurization.


30 posted on 03/12/2010 1:44:45 PM PST by Erasmus (Lying fallow in preparation for planting season)
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To: Erasmus

Yeah they had a lot of trouble with methane gas getting in and catching fire, but I don’t think they had the knowledge or ability to pressurize the whole tunnel at the time, which probably saved many lives, though it didn’t help the construction time any. The methane got in because apparently the bottom of the river was essentially a bog of sh!T... err, sewage from hundreds of years of the thames being used as a toilet.

Now, Downstream they got the wonderful tidal flushes.


31 posted on 03/12/2010 1:54:13 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Some of the older guys at work and I have had conversations along this line.

I read some of the report of the building of the Los Angeles Aqueduct.

That whole project was paper and pencil, careful planning and thinking, etc. And within cost and under budget. The sections of pipe were manufactured back east, then shipped to the aqueduct project, and all the pipe lengths and rivet holes lined up — just one of the amazing features.

You can download the report here. Over 300 pages, but it has pictures.

http://books.google.com/books?id=7yIWAAAAYAAJ


32 posted on 03/12/2010 3:08:43 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (If you could read my mind ... just count up the felonies!)
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