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Can Sarah Palin win a Presidental election ? (if not, why ?)

Posted on 03/17/2010 11:09:17 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

So many people beat around the bush and repeat MSM talking point.

I want to hear honest opinions.

Do you think Sarah Palin should run in 2012 ? Can she win in 2012 ? If not, why ?

I want to read serious opinions. not repeated MSM distortions.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: palin; palin2012; palinmccain2012; sarahpalin

1 posted on 03/17/2010 11:09:17 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

There is absolutely no reason why Sarah could not win a presidential election, but the MSM and some of their temporary allies with other agendas will do everything in their power to convince you otherwise.

You may be too young to remember the months up to the Reagan nomination, but believe you me, the attitude of the press and of Republican detractors was identical.

He’s dumb, he’s a lightweight, he’s an actor, he’s too old, he’s out of touch, he’s this, he’s that, he’s.... he’s... CONSERVATIVE!!!!

If you change the pronoun and swap out a few words, it’s identical to what people are saying about Sarah. And for very good reasons. Like Ron, Sarah connects with the American people on a genuine level. Like Ron, she is a common sense conservative. Like Ron, she has a warm and self-deprecating sense of humor.

All of these things count. And they all scare the MSM silly, because she goes over their heads with ease and and grace and explains things in words they understand.

They hate that.


2 posted on 03/17/2010 11:20:06 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Yes - she represents so many good things and I think we will have many Republicans in office by 2012. We still have to make it happen and one way to start is to go to a Republican Party precinct meeting.


3 posted on 03/17/2010 11:24:33 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think it depends on the running mate. She needs somebody from a large state with a ton of electoral votes. Reagan could always depend on picking up California.

Unfortunately winning the Alaska’s, Montana’s Arizona’s and Wyomings of the world wont get her elected. The best shot would be somebody from Texas or Florida IMHO


5 posted on 03/17/2010 11:28:20 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I don’t think so....


6 posted on 03/17/2010 11:49:00 PM PDT by cherry
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

If Palin runs, she will win and our country will begin to heal.

Thanks to the medical issues that have hit me over the past 3 years, 2012 will likely be the last time I get to vote.

As I near the beginning of my next journey, it would comfort me to know that our country, my children’s and grandchildren’s country, was being lead and guided by a president committed to bringing out and inspiring the best of us, while helping our most helpless.

Palin is not a fantasy, she’s about the only thing real that’s involved in this game.


7 posted on 03/17/2010 11:53:30 PM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: Gator113
If Palin runs, she'll win in the biggest landslide in U.S. Presidential history. The public will by then be aware that NOBODY could be worse than Bukkaki O'Bunga, and Palin will have had 4 years to establish her Reaganesque plans for recovery, which are already proven to work.

;-/

8 posted on 03/17/2010 11:57:48 PM PDT by Gargantua (DON'T TREAD ON US.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

No. Not ready yet. Needs to write, think, make appearances, build credibility for a few years. We already have somebody with no experience and a short attention span in the White House. We don’t need that twice in a row. Let’s wait on Palin, and see what develops. I really admire her and hope she influences America, but I don’t see her as presidential yet. I think there is no hurry.


9 posted on 03/18/2010 12:00:23 AM PDT by married21
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To: Gator113

Prayers for you as you go through your medical issues and hope you find every single bit of happiness in each and every day of your life.


10 posted on 03/18/2010 12:03:46 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

Thanks. ;>)


11 posted on 03/18/2010 12:06:49 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: married21

Funny while reading what you posted I had been thinking that just about every possible conservative contender for 2012 needs to do the same. It seems so many are beating each other up over who each supports and it’s pretty early in the game for 2012. The incessant campaigning is tearing conservatives apart and likely will result in another term for the Marxist.


12 posted on 03/18/2010 12:06:54 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
At present, despite Palin's natural talent and appeal, she is problematic as a 2012 candidate due to: (1) a lack of demonstrated knowledge and competence on a wide range of issues; and (2) damage done by political and media criticism that depicted her as a lightweight with a streak of snowbilly goofiness.

Palin's chances would improve greatly if she: (1) delivered speeches and published opinion pieces showing that she knows the issues; (2) took the negative aspects of her image and joked about them while demonstrating that they are false; and (3) raised funds and campaigned for GOP candidates and party organizations in 2010.

Palin seems to be doing those three things, so her chances for 2012 are on the upswing.

13 posted on 03/18/2010 12:13:49 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Gator113

I’d call that my Irish blessing... only I’m not Irish... so guess it’s my American blessing to you!


14 posted on 03/18/2010 12:14:49 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Gator113

Wow, that made me sad. Prayers to you.


15 posted on 03/18/2010 12:26:57 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

I shouldn’t have posted that, I’m just in a mood swing tonight. Don’t be sad, but thanks for your prayers.


16 posted on 03/18/2010 12:37:18 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: antceecee

LOL... it’s all covered. I’m Scottish, Irish and American.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 12:39:23 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: Maurice Tift

A lot will change in the time between now and December. She could win. No one thought Nixon would win after he was defeated by JFK and Pat Brown for Gov. of California.


18 posted on 03/18/2010 12:39:37 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Her association with Mccain has bugged me from day one. She says a lot of the right things but actions is what counts. At this point, I still have trustworthiness issues with Palin. If she's willing to rub shoulders with RINO's who else will she buddy up to?
I haven't written her off but she's not a ringer, either.
19 posted on 03/18/2010 2:13:11 AM PDT by phredo53 (Caution: This post does not comply with White House standards.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I love Sarah, but She lacks experience at the federal level.

Another person who would be torn apart by the elites, just as Harry Truman and Ronald Reagan were, because they didn’t fit in with the hoity toity types, and the pro abort feminists turn purple if you even mention her name.

However, she would make a great president...because she would be able to chose good people to advise her, and she has common sense...just like Harry and Reagan...


20 posted on 03/18/2010 2:40:39 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think she alone could raise funds equally well as the pubbies. If she declared she would have no end of volunteers,more committed than say there were for McCain and on a level with the enthusiasm we saw on the dem side in 08. I’m not sure there’s anything preventing her from running a successful campaign but she does need to act like that’s her goal at this time.The Fox gig is probably okay short term but detrimental beyond this year.


21 posted on 03/18/2010 2:48:31 AM PDT by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

If any reason why she cannot win is solely due to the ignorance and stupidity factor of most of America.

Be offended America, be offended to the core of your beliefs as I know you were mislead, have you found your guidance to the truth yet?

When you can say let your heart be true then you will have answered your question.


22 posted on 03/18/2010 2:52:42 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

No. She can’t possibly win now that she has lowered herself to talking-head status. She was once unique. Now she’s just another media pimp like Bob Schieffer, Lou Dobbs, Bill O’Reilley, and what’shername.


23 posted on 03/18/2010 3:14:09 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: KingLudd

I think her real problem is that she’s been co-opted by the Washington progressive machine and has already lost her roots as an anti-establishment, small-government outsider.

Her endorsement and campaigning for McCain says pretty much all we need to know about her now.

It’s a damn shame. I really liked her and had high hopes for before this.


24 posted on 03/18/2010 3:33:18 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I love her position on almost everything but I don't think she will ever be president.

Dan Quale is smarter than Joe Biden, Al Gore, Mike Dukakis or John Kerry but he has no future in politics.

Washington is the biggest playground in the world. Like a playground, fair or unfair, nicknames stick. Sarah is an inspiration but, like it or not (and I don't) she's been branded a light weight and will never be president.

That's a loss for the country.

25 posted on 03/18/2010 3:54:00 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama: Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg)
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To: Ronin

“because she goes over their heads with ease and and grace and explains things” in a way that even apolitical swing voters can understand.

You’re right of course. Sarah is the best candidate on the horizon. Just her popularizing of the term “death panels” did more for us in the health care fight than what any ten RINOs have done.


26 posted on 03/18/2010 6:36:38 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Yes, she can.


27 posted on 03/18/2010 7:42:12 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

She can. Timing depends on 2010 results. If there’s a resounding vote out in 2010, she is primed to make a huge push. If 2010 are just so-so, I’d advise her to wait until 2016. It really depends on how much more the American public can take from Obama.


28 posted on 03/18/2010 7:44:52 AM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: Gator113
If Palin runs, she will win and our country will begin to heal.

Regardless of who wins in 2012 the country will remain fractured.

29 posted on 03/18/2010 7:59:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; All

The most offensive thing that I ever heard is the notion that Sarah shouldn’t run, i’m angered that a person who never ran for president, yet to give her platform and ideas for the nation, who never competed in debates on her own for people to decide who ideas are better is told by even some conservatives in essence to’ Don’t show up, go home, we don’t want you to even try!’ ............that is very offensive and disgusted


30 posted on 03/18/2010 8:34:25 AM PDT by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Do you think Sarah Palin should run in 2012? Can she win in 2012?

a) Yes
b) Yes

I'm withholding any predictions on Piper in 2044. I'm not able, nor 'gifted', in merely looking at a six year old and determining her viable as a future POTUS.

31 posted on 03/18/2010 10:07:46 AM PDT by jla (Obama & Co. vs. Jefferson & Madison - my money's on the latter)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Here are 5 reasons why Palin could win in 2012:

1)As it stands now only 4 people stand to be POTUS in 2012-Obama, Biden, Romney or Palin and most likely only 3-Obama, Romney, and Palin. That’s pretty good odds, regardless of what happens to Obama’s poll numbers in the next 30 months.

2)And regarding poll numbers if Obama is anywhere between 47 and 51% in the Gallup poll (I prefer the RCP avg of polls) what I call the zone of uncertainly he is vulnerable. And as Mark McKinnon said today-no sitting POTUS has been reelected in he is sitting below 47% going into the fall election (Sept-Oct 2012). Obama is currently at 45% with Rasmussen and 46% with Gallup. That gives Palin a decent chance to be POTUS in 2012.

3)As I see it Palin’s main opposition if Romney. If she can secure the base and by her massive support convince Huckabee not to run she will be in good shape to get the nomination.

4)Palin’s momentum is growing; it is just a matter of time that she gains full LEGITIMACY.

5)Obama will not move to the center like Clinton and make it harder to be reelected and Palin to be elected in 2012.


32 posted on 03/18/2010 11:55:02 AM PDT by techno
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Palin is unelectable. She will never be able to offer realistic and credible reasons for her resigning the governorship to make her trustworthy to the middle road votes, independents and blue dog dems she will need to win.

It was a deal breaker at the time and she knew it. The only reason she dangles the possibility of a run is to keep her customers in a state suspended hope so she can continue to play the conservative diva and empty your pockets via speaker fees, book deals and media appearances.

As long as she is working to help elect conservatives and defeat dems, I have no problem with it although I think her not just coming out and saying she won't run is dishonest. She's playing her fans like a flute and you all dance to the tune oblivious to the bread crumbs in the melody.

If Palin does run in the primary it won't be because she thinks she can win the presidency, it's to enhance her status as a political force and playmaker...and fatten up that conservative cash cow. Ala Pat Robertson.

33 posted on 03/18/2010 12:21:24 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: All

BTW -Waiting for the “Palin hater!” comments.


34 posted on 03/18/2010 12:34:35 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J
Palin is unelectable. She will never be able to offer realistic and credible reasons for her resigning the governorship to make her trustworthy to the middle road votes, independents and blue dog dems she will need to win.

It must be the Palin hater factor you have Bobj. I'm from Alaska, and the story is true, what part do you refuse to believe???
35 posted on 03/18/2010 5:14:59 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

All things are possible.

But - it depends.

Running mate - a solid one will help a lot.

What happens in 2010 - no surprise the Dems will take a beating. If it turns out the beating is more of a blood bath, and a very strong grass roots based conservative movement gets momentum, the door is open for a real solid conservative as a candidate.

The state of the Union (or whats left of it) - Part of me thinks Zero is hanging his own party out to dry. He needs an “enemy” to campaign against because he can’t lead. Ever notice he is all about blaming someone else, and then just ranting and firing up the hand out crowd? I believe by late 2011, people will be so pissed off with his antics and figured this broken record out they will come out in droves to vote him out.

The media - a lot of people still get their info from Pravda. They might be influenced enough to vote for someone else.

The Republican party - there are still enough in the party who remain insiders. She might have more problems in the primary than the general.
Palin has been very up front about everything. She might not be the cookie cutter candidate, but look where that has gotten us.

All in all I think it’s way too early. I would rather we “let it happen” than try to force it to happen.


36 posted on 03/18/2010 8:31:35 PM PDT by FL911
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To: Issaquahking

“I’m from Alaska, and the story is true, what part do you refuse to believe???”

Interesting way to phrase the question “refuse to believe”.

Anyway, pretty much all of it except the part about the negative effect it was having on her and her family.

But then again, even that one would be blown out of the water if she decides to run for Prez.


37 posted on 03/19/2010 7:36:49 AM PDT by Bob J
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As of right now, I would say no. While many of us would like for her to be Reagan, I suspect she is closer to being the Republican Geraldine Ferraro at this point. Unlike with Uhbamuh, the media will make hay with her perceived lack of experience, the entertainment media will assault the public with nonstop Levi Johnston and she will be lampooned nonstop on every comedy program. But perhaps most importantly, she will have to go through the rigors of a tough nomination battle in the party and unless she shows a greater grasp of the issues than I have seen so far, she will have little chance of making it to the end of a primary campaign.

She would have been a stronger candidate in ‘16 or ‘20 if she had never been nominated by McCain.


38 posted on 03/19/2010 7:46:17 AM PDT by WillVoteForFood
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To: Gator113

I am sorry to hear about your health problems.......

Sarah will not kill your kids, or your grandmother.......and she will kill this stupid bill....because she isn’t a communist........

Sarah is real.....she isn’t BS like Obama who lies all the time.......he thinks he can lie because he is a Chicago thug.......


39 posted on 03/19/2010 8:07:43 AM PDT by RRTJSP...........
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To: Bob J
Interesting way to phrase the question “refuse to believe”.

Anyway, pretty much all of it except the part about the negative effect it was having on her and her family.

But then again, even that one would be blown out of the water if she decides to run for Prez.


I guess you mind has been poisoned by the lame stream media down in America. In Alaska, the facts remain what they are.

Just can't imagine what it is you think is phony?
40 posted on 03/19/2010 2:38:21 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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