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Vanity-Open Thread: Something you learned from this debacle.

Posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:49 PM PDT by C19fan

I will start this with:

Beltway pundits, especially so-called conservatives, are clueless. They have spent so much time in DC thinking all this stuff is a game that they could not recognize ideologues when it smacked them in the face.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; lessons; obama; obamacare; vanity

1 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:49 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

I learned that there is too damned much shooting inside the tent.

Count me out!


2 posted on 03/21/2010 4:04:01 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: C19fan

Elections have consequences. Don’t forget it the next time you’re thinking about setting one out.


3 posted on 03/21/2010 4:04:01 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: C19fan
Dont get Stuck on STUPack ever again.

contribute to his challenger:

Please send contributions to:

Benishek for Congress

802 Pentoga Trail

Crystal Falls, MI 49920

4 posted on 03/21/2010 4:04:05 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (3V3Ry71N' 084M4 D03z 83N3f17Z MU5l1mz. c01NC1d3nc3?)
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To: C19fan

Democrats are liberals; stop calling them anything else. Liberals are socialists. Stop calling them anything else. Obama is a Marxist/Black Liberation Theologist. Expect the worst.


5 posted on 03/21/2010 4:04:44 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama in complete control of your health care and mine. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: C19fan

we let this happen.

all incumbents out !


6 posted on 03/21/2010 4:06:32 PM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: C19fan

Right now I’m reading a book called “The Black Swan,” which is about the inability of people to adequately assess highly improbable circumstances, luck, and unusual events that are outside of their daily experiences and biases.

The chapter I just read talked about the strange fact, which has apparently been measured in research, for experts to be worse predictors than those outside the area of expertise. The reason, according to the author, is that the experts overestimate their base of knowledge when making a prediction.

Interesting stuff.


7 posted on 03/21/2010 4:06:33 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: jessduntno

All liberals are evil and cannot be trusted.


8 posted on 03/21/2010 4:06:33 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come. Judgment Day: Nov 2, 2010)
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To: C19fan

The system is totally broken. Our government doesn’t even resemble anything that the Constitution says, at all.


9 posted on 03/21/2010 4:07:08 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: C19fan

quit thinking there’s no difference between the parties


10 posted on 03/21/2010 4:08:16 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (1 birth, 2 deaths; 2 births, 1 death)
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To: C19fan

There is not a single dem in either the house or senate that has any morals or ethics whatsoever, they are ALL sleaze.


11 posted on 03/21/2010 4:08:17 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("When the national government and Congress start going wild, it's up the states to rein them in.")
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To: C19fan

At lease Judas got 30 pieces of silver. Stupak didn’t even get that and he’s as much a traitor.


12 posted on 03/21/2010 4:08:20 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: redpoll

I heard about that book. Would you recommend it?


13 posted on 03/21/2010 4:09:28 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

No such thing as a pro-life Democrat. If you think about it, logic would say that if you belong to the party of abortion...you can’t really be pro-life.

And the other thing I learned is the Catholic church (not in general) but in specific areas “tolerates” abortion.


14 posted on 03/21/2010 4:09:38 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: C19fan
"Something you learned from this debacle."

Rodney Dangerfield was right:

Rodney: "You can fool some of the people some of the time, and just jerk the rest off!!"

15 posted on 03/21/2010 4:09:47 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: C19fan

I learned something very interesting

People are fundamentally stupid.

Democrat after Democrat talk about how many people will die from not having health insurance, how many will go bankrupt, how many are losing insurance
right now!!

Yet, no one seems to notice that the benefits and coverage won’t start for years.

If things are so bad, then why not make everything start benefits the day it goes into law? Maybe, these congressmen are just doing what is politically expedient and not really caring at all about the common man.

That’s what i learned


16 posted on 03/21/2010 4:10:25 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: C19fan

It would take a huge shift in attitudes for the federal government to ever cut spending. Politicians at the federal level will do nearly anything to avoid it.


17 posted on 03/21/2010 4:10:56 PM PDT by Need4Truth (We can't afford the empire or the entitlements.)
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To: C19fan

It’s important to win elections. There’s no way this happens if the Democrats don’t have huge majorities in both houses.


18 posted on 03/21/2010 4:11:29 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: C19fan

I wasted about 24 hours of my time and energy attending rallies in front of the Capitol. What a waste.


19 posted on 03/21/2010 4:11:55 PM PDT by conservaDave (You can't ignore the democRAT...He's a menace to health, home and industry...kill him!)
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To: C19fan
I learned that the RCBS 3-Way cutter will trim, debur and chamfer all in 1 operation saving approx. 6 seconds per. case durring case prep.
20 posted on 03/21/2010 4:15:55 PM PDT by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it. Forever. Amen.)
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To: C19fan

Absolutely. It’ll certainly clean the cobwebs out of your head.


21 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:30 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: conservaDave

I don’t even want to think about how much time I wasted sending faxes and making calls. It was bunches tho.....


22 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:08 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Carley

I agree.


23 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:38 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: C19fan

Deceit, treachery and the big lie are a winning strategy. Democrats play to win by any means in every arena. Republicans still don’t understand the enemy and want to play by the rules.


25 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:01 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: redpoll

Thank you for mentioning this book. I think I saw the author on Beck several weeks ago and I kept trying to remember who he was so I could get the book. It sounded fascinating. I think really, people always assume REALLY bad stuff won’t happen to them, so they are blindsided. Lots of ostriches. Anyway, thanks, I’m going to order it now.


26 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:12 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: redpoll
Right now I’m reading a book called “The Black Swan,”

There are three different ones listed on Amazon, who is the author?

27 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:27 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: C19fan

Never EVER trust a Democrat!


28 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:58 PM PDT by tndarlin (If only the VRWC had ACORN, SOROS, SEIU, TIDES .....)
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To: C19fan

I learned that we do not have a representative republic.


29 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:19 PM PDT by txlurker
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To: C19fan

Stupak was always going to vote for the bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URr68joWr1E


30 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:36 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: verga

Nassim Taleb.


31 posted on 03/21/2010 4:25:10 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: C19fan

What did I learn? NOTHING.

Just reaffirmed what I already knew. America is toast.

There are too many ignorant, selfish, dishonest, lying, cheating, immature, lazy people in our country and the numbers are getting worse. And they all vote.

We are going down in flames. There’s no turning it around. Globalism, socialism, marxism...here we come, ready or not.


32 posted on 03/21/2010 4:25:30 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: C19fan

I learned that the only difference between rape and seduction is salesmanship.


33 posted on 03/21/2010 4:26:31 PM PDT by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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To: conservaDave

You should be PROUD!! I’m proud of you and everyone else is, too!
It was NOT a “waste” and, I hope you’re willing to do it again!!! I am.

I’m looking forward to the fights to come!

NEVER give up! NEVER surrender!!! (I’m gonna watch Galaxy Quest tonight, instead of Obamao...it’ll be a break...then...BACK TO THE FIGHT!!!!)


34 posted on 03/21/2010 4:26:54 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: C19fan
The will of the people does not matter

Our Constitution does not matter

Our Republic is Dead...for real

35 posted on 03/21/2010 4:27:24 PM PDT by oldvike (I'm too drunk to taste THIS chicken)
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To: SoftballMominVA

What people are is fundamentally selfish. And most want their needs to be taken care of so they can focus on the fun stuff. Healthcare isn’t fun stuff. So they want YOU to pay for it.


36 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:26 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: conservaDave

It’s not a waste. Really. You were there. Those of us who couldn’t be there got just a little bit of comfort knowing some WERE there. God bless you for doing your part.


37 posted on 03/21/2010 4:29:22 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: C19fan
The military won't defend the USA from the enemy within.
38 posted on 03/21/2010 4:31:06 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: C19fan

I learned that there is no such thing as a principled Rat and all Rats are ultimately pro-abortion no matter what they say.


39 posted on 03/21/2010 4:39:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (`)
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There is no such thing as a moderate democRAT, and the Catholic Church needs to excommunicate every single one of the rat B@ST@RDS.


40 posted on 03/21/2010 4:44:39 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: C19fan

Absolutely nothing new. Reinforced everything I have learned or experienced over many years. Communists have taken over our govt with the election of front man Obama. What has been accomplished is that Republicans finally know the seriousness of the battle and are fighting back. It must be crystal clear now that unless Republicans fight to retake this government, there will be no need for elections to any office. The current communist administration rules by waivers, DEEMED voted and passed legislation, executive orders for favored politicians and legislation, seizure of state owned land, bribery and corruption of legislators to gain support for various bills, circumvention of any and all rules and legal restrictions etc. etc. The communists have nothing to lose as they push and bully their way into every corner and crevice of the American way of life. Nothing, nothing, will stop them until their opposition is willing to be as brutal as they are whether legislatively or otherwise. We all know that there is more of the same as HC on the way. We must elect strong leaders and that means anybody running for elective office. Leaders who cannot be bought by one means or another. This HC bill is not the worst that can happen to this country. We have been put on notice as to what democrats are capable of and willing to do to force socialization of America on us.


41 posted on 03/21/2010 5:10:25 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America)
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To: Carley

Yes there is that. Too much shooting inside the tent that is. I have given up trying to figure out what is the gain. It is certainly off putting.


42 posted on 03/21/2010 5:25:56 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America)
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To: verga

The author is Nassim Nicholas Taleb.

Talking about the unexpected... who would have thought that there were three books with the same name? LOL


43 posted on 03/21/2010 7:10:47 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Mortrey

I will not give up. Just feeling so down. I will get up again to fight!!!!


44 posted on 03/22/2010 4:25:01 AM PDT by conservaDave (You can't ignore the democRAT...He's a menace to health, home and industry...kill him!)
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To: brytlea

I am sorry. I was just feeling down. I will NEVER give up.


45 posted on 03/22/2010 4:25:53 AM PDT by conservaDave (You can't ignore the democRAT...He's a menace to health, home and industry...kill him!)
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To: conservaDave

I know you won’t, and neither will I. I feel like I’ve been punched in the gut today, however I was surprised by the number of my FB friends (who are generally totally not political) have come out angry over this vote today. So, there may really be hope. :)


46 posted on 03/22/2010 9:57:38 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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