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Civil Disobedience - Burn the Census Form?
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Posted on 03/21/2010 9:11:09 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear

There's been a lot of talk on FR about "Civil Disobedience." Back when I was a kid, filthy disease ridden hippies burned their draft cards to protest against the Viet Nam War.

Should we respond to Obamacare by burning our census forms in a public act of civil disobedience?

Does anyone have any better idea?


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KEYWORDS: 2010census; disobedience; obamacare; protest; vanity
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1 posted on 03/21/2010 9:11:09 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: Grizzled Bear

It’s only a $100 fine for refusing to answer it. Better then the fine for fraudulent answers.


2 posted on 03/21/2010 9:12:16 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Does anyone have any better idea?

I hope so. /s

3 posted on 03/21/2010 9:12:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Grizzled Bear

I’m off to bed, but I’ll check back tomorrow.


4 posted on 03/21/2010 9:13:00 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

we threw ours out over this.


5 posted on 03/21/2010 9:13:57 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: Domandred

Thats a dumb idea. If most conservatives dont send in their census form (name and 3 people only of course) then the conservative districts will lose out.

The idea is for the liberal districts to lose out...


6 posted on 03/21/2010 9:14:04 PM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: Grizzled Bear

It’s a good start,, loook on the TV now. They are openly laughing at us. Soon,, she will be on her private airliner, drinking expensive liquor as she flies over America, laughing down at us. Bit@ch.


7 posted on 03/21/2010 9:14:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Should we respond to Obamacare by burning our census forms in a public act of civil disobedience?

All depends... If you live in a solid rat district..., reduce the count. If you live in a solid rep district, inflate the count!

8 posted on 03/21/2010 9:14:31 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Grizzled Bear

If you live in a red state in a red district then over count the people in your household to help adjust out the illegal immigrants. It’s only fair.


9 posted on 03/21/2010 9:15:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Confiscation of wealth with out explicit consent is not charity.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I am taking the American flag down in front of our building tomorrow. I cannot fly this flag because I am NOT a communist. It will rest respectfully in a drawer until such time as we liberate our country form the communists... THAT is my civil disobedience. Oh, if only blacks and Mexicans fill out the census form, you will ensure hell on earth. Think South Africa and Boerr...


10 posted on 03/21/2010 9:15:23 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Its not a bad idea, print about a million copies or have 50 million print a thousand each and publicly burn them as an effigy.

All across America.


11 posted on 03/21/2010 9:15:50 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Domandred

$100 per question, $5000 maximum total.

Pick your battles. This one gets your nothing but a big fine and a target on your home.


12 posted on 03/21/2010 9:16:00 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Domandred

With all the NEW IRS jobs via hell care reform, they’ll be at your door before you know it.

I can’t believe what is happening.


13 posted on 03/21/2010 9:16:25 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Grizzled Bear
The census is constitutional. Respond, but use your conscience as a guide concerning how to respond.

Continue to let the dems know the electorate is not happy with them. I will be making phone calls after the Easter recess. Maybe we can continue the flood of calls....

14 posted on 03/21/2010 9:16:30 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: neverbluffer

yeah...the socialist have got the word out...if the illegals and lowlifes want free goodies.....fill out the census. So, fill it out to counter them, just dont give detailed answers.


15 posted on 03/21/2010 9:16:49 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: Grizzled Bear

This information is useful for those who believe the questions are intrusive and none of the government’s business. For the Constitutionally required enumeration, the government officials need to know the number of individuals living in your home not the gender, race, etc.
Highlighted areas are what I consider the most useful details.
Cheryl

221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers
• (a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.
• (b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.
• (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.
Sec. 222. Giving suggestions or information with intent to cause inaccurate enumeration of population
Whoever, either directly or indirectly, offers or renders to any officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof engaged in making an enumeration of population under subchapter II, IV, or V of chapter 5 of this title, any suggestion, advice, information or assistance of any kind, with the intent or purpose of causing an inaccurate enumeration of population to be made, shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.


16 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:03 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness)
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To: April Lexington

fly it upside down.....


17 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:08 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: ExSES

I’m encouraging my fellow Californians - except for those outside the fishook - to lose their census forms...the less representation Mexifornia has, the better for the rest of you.


18 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:09 PM PDT by americanophile (DeMint/Ryan '10)
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To: neverbluffer

Dogs are people too right? I live in probably the most conservative county in the country (Montgomery County, TX) so it would be good if we had 6 living here rather than 4.


19 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:14 PM PDT by jsdjason
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To: neverbluffer

If you don’t think the Census numbers are fudged, I have some swampland in Florida to sell you.


20 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: April Lexington

It’s Gadsden Flag time.


21 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:58 PM PDT by americanophile (DeMint/Ryan '10)
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To: 1rudeboy

My census form says NOTHING about any fines, so I don’t know about any fines. Per the Constitution, enter the number of individuals living in quarters. DON’T include their names or answer any other questions EXCEPT under race.. There enter “other race”: MIXED (UNKNOWN).

I’m considering telling them more if they BRIBE me. After all, they’re masters at bribery as we’ve just witnessed.


22 posted on 03/21/2010 9:18:09 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: Domandred

Oh btw I already filled mine in. Less my phone number and whether or not I own the house.

But I “accidentally” spilled coffee on it. Somehow my daughter got it and attempted to fill some of it in with crayons. My dog pulled it off my desk and chewed it for a bit till I realized he had it. Was eating some peanut butter and crackers and when I reached for a napkin I grabbed the form instead, so got my peanut buttery finger prints on it.

Hope they’ll still accept it...


23 posted on 03/21/2010 9:18:48 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

No, don’t burn the form, fill it out and send it in. That data will also be used during the next two conservative administrations. Don’t burn our future, burn a hope and change bumper sticker instead.


24 posted on 03/21/2010 9:19:33 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: Domandred

$5000 fine now. With the fascism bill signed, the Obama will need all the funds he can get, so I’ll expect a big push to prosecute people and collect $5000 from each.


25 posted on 03/21/2010 9:20:25 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Grizzled Bear

In the other column put ARAB.


26 posted on 03/21/2010 9:20:31 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: April Lexington

NO, turn it upside down. The signal of distress.


27 posted on 03/21/2010 9:21:37 PM PDT by Josa
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To: neverbluffer

all they got from me was male / female 2 adults


28 posted on 03/21/2010 9:22:48 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: historyrepeatz

They can levy a $5,000 fine for not complying, but I listened to an interview of one of the Census bigwigs and they said they’ve never fined anyone. They choose instead to “persuade people how important this information is”.


29 posted on 03/21/2010 9:23:21 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discover" Sarah Palin)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Great idea - let’s under count white conservatives. Next?


30 posted on 03/21/2010 9:23:23 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: Domandred

Oh btw I already filled mine in. Less my phone number and whether or not I own the house.

But I “accidentally” spilled coffee on it. Somehow my daughter got it and attempted to fill some of it in with crayons. My dog pulled it off my desk and chewed it for a bit till I realized he had it. Was eating some peanut butter and crackers and when I reached for a napkin I grabbed the form instead, so got my peanut buttery finger prints on it.

Hope they’ll still accept it...

____________________________________________________-

You sound like my brother doing his taxes. “The law says I have to file my taxes. It doesn’t say I have to do them right”


31 posted on 03/21/2010 9:25:45 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: Grizzled Bear

To the best of your ability, cut off the federal cash flow.

For example, decrease your withholding to zero, and put it in a savings account instead, denying them the money until March next year when you write your annual income tax check.

If everyone did this at the same time, it would so severely cut off the feds cash flow, they would be crippled.


32 posted on 03/21/2010 9:26:03 PM PDT by mlinehan
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To: historyrepeatz

That’s how I filled mine out ,, number of persons and under each person gave names as jane doe #1 , john doe#1 , baby doe#1 etc. ,, no other questions answered.


33 posted on 03/21/2010 9:26:32 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: leapfrog0202

That is correct , the fine has never been imposed because the census doesn’t want it tested in court , they will lose.


34 posted on 03/21/2010 9:27:54 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Grizzled Bear
What is the deadline for sending it in? I looked all over the form & cannot find that.

Since it asks how many people are living in the house as of 4/01/2010, how can I honestly answer that now??? Today is only 3/21/2010!!

Wouldn't my answers be in error since that date hasn't yet arrived?

35 posted on 03/21/2010 9:31:35 PM PDT by blondee123 (Illinois ELECT Adam Kinzinger - http://www.electadam.com/ rid US of communism!)
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To: Grizzled Bear
I answered my census form. Then I noticed it looked dull, drab and boring. So I went to my handy collection of stickers and rubber stamps and I spruced it up a bit, along with the envelope. It's much cheerier now. (And I feel better.)


36 posted on 03/21/2010 9:40:53 PM PDT by PERKY2004 (Proud military wife of a pilot ~ Praying for him and for all our troops!)
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To: April Lexington

Fly the flag upside down! It makes a statement, while NOT flying it makes none at all. Apologies to all patriots.


37 posted on 03/21/2010 9:44:03 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Excuse me while I strip naked! I have a plane to catch!)
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To: April Lexington

I may get a Gadsen Flag and fly that instead of The American Flag, until The Dictator is gone.


38 posted on 03/21/2010 9:48:57 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (Lady NRA Member "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Grizzled Bear
I like the idea of making 100's of copies and sending them in.

As for the race question, RUSH suggested marking the "other" box and printing in all caps: AMERICAN

39 posted on 03/21/2010 9:52:33 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: TheConservativeParty

Flying the Flag upside down is also an excellent idea.
Thanks to those who posted that idea.


40 posted on 03/21/2010 9:53:06 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (Lady NRA Member "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mlinehan
To the best of your ability, cut off the federal cash flow.

For example, decrease your withholding to zero, and put it in a savings account instead, denying them the money until March next year when you write your annual income tax check.

If everyone did this at the same time, it would so severely cut off the feds cash flow, they would be crippled.

I wish some anonymous group would organize several million taxpayers to quit paying their taxes all at the same time. This would be considered sedition, but if millions did it, the government couldn't go after all of us.

41 posted on 03/21/2010 9:58:08 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: Grizzled Bear

yes - if you live in a Democrap area. if you live in a conservative area, you’re shooting yourself in the foot by not responding.


42 posted on 03/21/2010 9:59:52 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: 1rudeboy

File it in the circular file cabinet.


43 posted on 03/21/2010 10:07:12 PM PDT by Mister Muggles (.Seattle: A city full of Liberal men with vaginas.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

Fired 21 rounds ( i live in the sticks so nobody freak ) and turned my flag upside down....nobody will see it, but it makes me feel better...thinkin’ about putting an upside down flag on my truck, next to my Gadsden flag...


44 posted on 03/21/2010 10:10:16 PM PDT by waterhill (Screw You, We're From TEXAS. We're From TEXAS, Screw You...)
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To: Domandred

My initial thought was a general strike that shuts down the economy for a day or two. I could use a couple of days off.


45 posted on 03/21/2010 10:10:44 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: is_is

Fly Your American Flag at Half Staff on Monday March 22 in sorry and remembrance of the loss of our freedom to the Obama Nation.


46 posted on 03/21/2010 10:21:03 PM PDT by Shade_Trees_56
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To: Grizzled Bear; All

If you’re in a free state, fill out the number in your household. No groupthink info for race-baiting, preference-pushing, set-aside-seeking parasites and their racial spoils system.

If you’re in an urban failure, just trash it. They’re losing population but making up for it in gerrymandering, illegal aliens, and vote fraud. The sooner they lose reps the better.


47 posted on 03/21/2010 10:21:20 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: is_is

Fly Your American Flag at Half Staff on Monday March 22 in sorry and remembrance of the loss of our freedom to the Obama Nation.


48 posted on 03/21/2010 10:21:30 PM PDT by Shade_Trees_56
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To: April Lexington

Don’t do that...
Fly it with a Gadsen flag underneath it. And a flag with the M-16 on it that says “Come and take it”

Remember that the foes we are dealing with hate the American Flag and what it stands for, if they could they would be rid of it in a second. The Liberals and Obama think the American flag stands for “Fascism” “Racism” and “Imperialist war mongering”


49 posted on 03/21/2010 10:24:07 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: PERKY2004

Is there anything wrong with mailing the Census form in that envelope, then attaching the envelope to a brick?


50 posted on 03/21/2010 10:25:48 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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