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What to do when a pit bull attacks
Indianapolis Business Journal ^ | Norm Heikens

Posted on 03/24/2010 9:57:20 AM PDT by Chet 99

What to do when a pit bull attacks

March 24, 2010

News of pit bull attacks just keeps coming.

In March alone, an Indianapolis cop was bitten on a knee while looking for someone for questioning. Another officer shot and killed one of two of dogs that attacked a man while he carried out trash. The dog, by the way, had been at a Humane Society shelter and adopted out months earlier.

The stories are worse farther from Indianapolis. A girl’s jaw torn off in England. Three children mauled in California by a roaming pack of five. A woman’s arm nearly ripped away during a two-minute-long frenzy in Australia.

There were nearly 300 pit bull attacks in Indianapolis last year. Police spokesman Jeff Duhamell expects activity to pick up again as the weather warms and more people resume jogging, bicycling and other outdoor activity.

“They are an extremely vicious breed, and they always have been. They’ll come after you,” Duhamell says. “The more you pull way from them, the more they’ll lock down and start ripping skin and muscle.”

Pit bull owners say the bad rap comes from unrestrained animals or those trained to be mean. It doesn’t help that the breed is favored by drug dealers and other folks who don’t like attention, aficionados say. Treat the dogs responsibly and train them to be passive, and they’re fine.

(If pit bulls can be trained to be unaggressive, can labs be trained not to fetch? Just asking.)

Mayor Greg Ballard and the City-County Council have been reluctant to single out the breed for special regulation.

So what’s a person to do?

Duhamell says pit bulls running loose are the most dangerous, because they’re aggressively territorial. Stay away from them, and get inside a car or house if you feel threatened, he recommends. Or shout “No!” or “Down!” in the hope they’re educated. Other dogs set them off, so leave yours at home.

A Taser might work if you’re accurate enough to get the probes on the dog, he says. And Mace might help.

Duhamell muses about the potential of pepper spray designed to ward off grizzly bears. The spray, which hunters are required to carry in areas of Wyoming, squirts 30 feet from a small canister.

If all else fails, Web sites focused on dog attacks recommend curling up in a fetal position and protecting the head and face—areas where plastic surgery is harder to hide with clothing.

What are your thoughts about pit bulls? Are they maligned? Any ideas for preventing attacks you can share?


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KEYWORDS: banglist; personaldefense; pitbull; whenpitbullsattack
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1 posted on 03/24/2010 9:57:20 AM PDT by Chet 99
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2 posted on 03/24/2010 9:58:21 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

What to do when a pit bull attacks

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#1. Ping Chet 99.


3 posted on 03/24/2010 9:58:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Chet 99

>>>What to do when a pit bull attacks <<<

FReepmail Chet 99, of course! :-)


4 posted on 03/24/2010 9:59:47 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Chet 99
curling up in a fetal position and protecting the head and face—areas where plastic surgery is harder to hide with clothing.

How about going for the throat or eyes and trying to find something to beat it with? I'd rather fight than lay down and wait for plastic surgery...
5 posted on 03/24/2010 10:00:26 AM PDT by TSgt (USA - Born: July 4, 1776, Died: Jan. 20, 2009, Buried: Mar 21, 2010)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Chet 99
#1. Ping Chet 99.

Pits are dangerous--someone might have to do that on your behalf.

6 posted on 03/24/2010 10:01:12 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Chet 99

Keep firing until the clip is empty, of course.


7 posted on 03/24/2010 10:01:25 AM PDT by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: MikeWUSAF

I would just shoot it with my .45.


8 posted on 03/24/2010 10:01:38 AM PDT by goldylight
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To: Chet 99

The dog weights about 60 pounds. Pick it up, snap its neck, find the owner and repeat.


9 posted on 03/24/2010 10:01:51 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Chet 99
"What to do when a pit bull attacks . . . "

BLAM!

10 posted on 03/24/2010 10:02:23 AM PDT by haywoodwebb (ISLAM = DEATH! . . . . Black & Humble . . .)
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To: Chet 99
What to do when a pit bull attacks

They left off Plan A: Shoot to kill

11 posted on 03/24/2010 10:02:23 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: Chet 99

A head shot with a 9mm has been shown to be helpful.


12 posted on 03/24/2010 10:02:27 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Chet 99
What to do when a pit bull attacks

In an ideal world you would: Pull out your carry piece and shoot the thing until it stops moving. Reload and shoot the owner.

13 posted on 03/24/2010 10:03:00 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: MikeWUSAF

pull out your CCW and shoot the thing in the head and then hope the owner attacks you in an emotional rage after seeing his dog shot dead... so you can put him down too.


14 posted on 03/24/2010 10:03:00 AM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: from occupied ga

you and I think alike.


15 posted on 03/24/2010 10:03:46 AM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: Chet 99

Assume a confident bearing and confront it. Show no fear.


16 posted on 03/24/2010 10:04:10 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Responsibility2nd

My area is swarming with these dogs, and the indigents that buy and breed them.

I can see both sides of this argument: Lhasa Apso’s are nasty as h3ll, right out of the box. Staffordshires and American bulls are sweet animals, very protective and also very intune with alpha conflicts with their owners and families. They are great animals for the decent american family to have.

That said, in my area the “decent american family” aren’t the ones who have them. The drug dealers, their girlfriends, and plain-old dyed-in-the-wool street thugs have them. They are trained to attack, they are trained to be aggressive, and they are status symbols.

Sorry Charlie - When I see someone walking one (Usually wearing FUBU and very white sneakers) I prepare.

On the other hand, there is a pleasant couple in my neighborhood that own two Sharpeis. The Shar Pei is bred as a fighting dog. Their specimens are beautiful - And WOW muscular. You can strike a match on these dog’s shoulder muscles. They had some issues with my ex-roommate’s mixed dog when he got out one day. It was a scary moment. The Sharpeis maintained a defensive position around their masters, but also responded to only voice commands from them to back down, settle down and sit.


17 posted on 03/24/2010 10:04:42 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Chet 99

Well if you have no weapons and you are strong you could do what a relative of mine did, he stuck his arm clear down the dog’s throat, he needed several stitches on his arm, but the dog died of suffocation after few minutes of him forcibly feeding it his arm, he said the dog was trying to throw up his arm, but he kept pushing into the dog unt5il the dog stopped moving. He was wearing something with sleeves, a work overall I think, not sure how this would work without wearing sleeves, if the dog would take your arm off or not.


18 posted on 03/24/2010 10:04:47 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Chet 99

The breed gets a bad rap from sensationalism and fear.


19 posted on 03/24/2010 10:05:26 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Chet 99

I got hate mail here last time I said this breed should be EXTERMINATED and I stand by it AGAIN. Tigers are “cats” but you wouldn’t let your children play with one.

At a MINIMUM, a permit should be required to own a Pitt Bull just as is required to own a Tiger and only in certain areas.

There should be concern about ANY breed which owners take to the shelter because they themselves become fearful of them.

Case closed, NO ARGUMENT. PERIOD.


20 posted on 03/24/2010 10:06:22 AM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: GraceG

Buy THAT man a Bear! Sounds like a Marine I know


21 posted on 03/24/2010 10:07:35 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: TennTuxedo

Since when are FACTS sensationalism and fear? HUH? It seems every 100 posts is about another mauling or murder committed by a Pitt Bull.


22 posted on 03/24/2010 10:07:52 AM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: kevkrom

i was going to post something similar, but I thought that if I kept reading the thread someone else (if not more) would have come up with the same suggestion.

Gotta love the thinking here.


23 posted on 03/24/2010 10:09:17 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: 70th Division

He worked as a lineman, he was having to go into alleyways and had to deal with dogs, once he used electrical tape to muzzle a dog and then when he was done he caught the dog and removed the black tape. He is crazy, but no other man I would rather have around when things come to worse.


24 posted on 03/24/2010 10:09:39 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Chet 99

“If pit bulls can be trained to be unaggressive, can labs be trained not to fetch? Just asking.)”
My labs had the retrieving desire bred into them. I didn’t have to teach them, they did it automatically. Naturally, I had to train them what, when, etc.
My cow dog and sheep dog had the work ethic, and desire to herd bred into them. They had to be taught to follow my directions so we didn’t work at cross purposes, but they were all over getting after the sheep and cattle. My labs had no interest in herding and my herding dogs had no interest in fetching.
I’d venture a guess that pits and other fighting breeds have the desire to rumble bred into them.


25 posted on 03/24/2010 10:09:40 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Chet 99
Duhamell says pit bulls running loose are the most dangerous, because they’re aggressively territorial. Stay away from them, and get inside a car or house if you feel threatened, he recommends. Or shout “No!” or “Down!” in the hope they’re educated. Other dogs set them off, so leave yours at home.

So because of these stupid pit bull lovers everyone has to hope there is a house or a car to get in and cannot walk their own dogs in their neighborhoods. Total insanity...but what else is new in the U.S.

26 posted on 03/24/2010 10:10:02 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: RC one

Actually happened a few (about 10)years ago here in atlanta. Woman’s pit bull was mauling a child while the owner watched - apparently entertained by the spectacle. A neighbor ran into his house, got a .357 and shot the dog. At that point the owner went into a screeching frenzy attacking the neighbor screaming “Don’t hurt my dog.” So he shot her too. SHE was charged with assault. Convicted too.


27 posted on 03/24/2010 10:11:19 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Chet 99
What to do when a pit bull attacks

All I know is when a Pit Bull is humping your leg, you let him finish!

28 posted on 03/24/2010 10:11:31 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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(If pit bulls can be trained to be unaggressive, can labs be trained not to fetch? Just asking.)

That made me laugh.

29 posted on 03/24/2010 10:11:43 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Chet 99
Did you catch this useful advice in the comment section?

If you can... Stick your finger (or bigger) into it's anus. Apparently a dog will instantly let go.

30 posted on 03/24/2010 10:11:45 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: TennTuxedo
The breed gets a bad rap from sensationalism and fear.

Besides banning the breed can we now also ban posts in support of pit bulls?

31 posted on 03/24/2010 10:12:59 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Chet 99
as with all wild animals they are unpredictable. It is imprinted in their DNA. It is not a matter of treatment , one minute they are cute and tame and another vicious killers. It should be illegal to own them period.

A police dog trainer once told me that to take any dog out, if you hit them in the nose hard enough they are done because in attack mode they can only breathe through the nose . he said it is better to offer your left arm then hit the dog as hard as possible straight in the nose to make it bleed and it will have to let go. Same goes in a rescue , I would hit the dog in the nose with a large object to make it let go to smash its head and try to crush it. Another option is the body slam, if it was locked on to me, since I out weigh it, I would try to slam it with overwhelming force against the sharp edge af a wall, tree, post, fire hydrant, car etc to try and crush its ribs and lungs . Another option to rescue another is to grab both hind legs and rip them apart and kick in in the soft stomach

32 posted on 03/24/2010 10:13:49 AM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: Chet 99

“If all else fails, Web sites focused on dog attacks recommend curling up in a fetal position and protecting the head and face—areas where plastic surgery is harder to hide with clothing.”

How reassuring.


33 posted on 03/24/2010 10:14:49 AM PDT by COgamer
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Besides banning the breed can we now also ban posts in support of pit bulls?

So you voted for Health Care eh?

34 posted on 03/24/2010 10:15:53 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: GraceG

Buy him beer. LOTS OF IT! LOL Leroy Brown type. LOL


35 posted on 03/24/2010 10:16:43 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: kevkrom
"Keep firing until the clip is empty, of course."

1. Fire until clip is empty
2. Replace clip
3. Repeat step 1

36 posted on 03/24/2010 10:17:13 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Chet 99
The final lunge made by a charging attack dog is a momentary blind, airbourne and open jawed.

When a dog attacks you, standing firm one foot forward the other back. Raise your forward arm waist high and horizonal; offer it to the dog as a target. You are now a matador. Your other hand/arm is your sword. Keep your fingers straight and pointed.

Battle: As the lunging dog goes for you target arm >>> PLUNDGE YOUR SWORD HAD DOWN FIDO's THROAT and KILL THE DOG by suffication/strangulation.

Note: You will survive despite inevitable injuries.

37 posted on 03/24/2010 10:18:55 AM PDT by Broker (Stranger in a very strange land.)
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To: Chet 99
Consider the modern compound bow:

Everybody should have one.

The bowhunters super store.

No noise, much more efficient and powerful than a traditional bow and easier to aim and shoot.

38 posted on 03/24/2010 10:19:05 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: GraceG

I concur with this statement. Worked with a Doberman I once had.


39 posted on 03/24/2010 10:19:29 AM PDT by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: TennTuxedo
The breed gets a bad rap from sensationalism and fear.

The breed gets a bad rap from attacking and killing people.

40 posted on 03/24/2010 10:19:30 AM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: from occupied ga

yet another reason why we need CCWs, pitbulls and pitbull owners.


41 posted on 03/24/2010 10:19:35 AM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: Chet 99

Put it on a high speed rail to the nearest town with a crooked cop.


42 posted on 03/24/2010 10:20:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: KTM rider

Your advice seems sound, but everyone should also know that pit bulls have an extraordinary ability to withstand pain.


43 posted on 03/24/2010 10:20:56 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: 70th Division
"Buy THAT man a Bear! Sounds like a Marine I know."

Inquiring minds would like to know what that Marine did with the .SmileyCentral.com

44 posted on 03/24/2010 10:23:04 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: beebuster2000

Just. Damn.

Those liberals seems to know everything, huh?


45 posted on 03/24/2010 10:23:57 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: TennTuxedo
The breed gets a bad rap from sensationalism and fear.

absolutely FALSE !

A friend since elementary school had one and once I was renting a room from him. He had a 8 year old girl.

One morning as i was going to work , i opened the door to my truck and it attacked. As it gave warning growl crouched and ran at me, I turned around grabbed a shovel from the back of my truck and as it clamped on the back of my leg I jabbed the dog in the neck with a downward poke to the rear of me giving it a 1-1/2 inch deep cut and it released, I chased it around the yard trying to kill it , but it was too fast. I had a deep bruise and slight cut in the back of my leg and it ripped my jeans all the way down . Just as I had it cornered and was going in for the kill with the shovel, my freind came out and said "what are you doing....stop".

he took it to the vet and got it stitches and wanted me to pay ! I told him I would not pay and will kill the dog at the first opportunity. This led to an arguement and I moved out a few days later.

46 posted on 03/24/2010 10:27:04 AM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: CodeToad

Oh yeah, pit-bull neck snapping is, well, a snap!


47 posted on 03/24/2010 10:27:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Chet 99

We have a pit bull and a cat, who has made the dog bleed several times.

Last week a homeless kitten came to our house and we’ve been taking care of it. It got through the baby gate and into the kitchen with the dog who started to chase it. The kitten hissed and drew back it’s little paw to scratch the dog’s nose. The Pit Bull stopped so fast he slid, looked at me with a “what do I do now” look and proceeded to pee on the floor.

Mean dog, that one.


48 posted on 03/24/2010 10:27:41 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Scotsman will be Free
I’d venture a guess that pits and other fighting breeds have the desire to rumble bred into them.

I would agree with this, although 'gameness' varies between individuals. A good owner acknowledges that you can never trust your bull dog not to fight another dog. But you can channel a dog's interest in different directions; herding dogs excell at flyball. Labs excell at fetching balls, beers, slippers, etc. Pit bulls excell at pulling. You just have to be willing to invest time in your dog.

49 posted on 03/24/2010 10:30:59 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Chet 99

A pit bull not on a leash comes in my yard with my kids and my Shelties will be shot on sight. No hesitation. No guilt.


50 posted on 03/24/2010 10:31:08 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (I'm really thrilled that Scott Brown WON Big Time Last Night)
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