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IS ANYONE CONSIDERING BAILING OUT OF THIS PLACE AND GOING TO COSTA RICA OR PANAMA?

Posted on 03/28/2010 7:15:31 PM PDT by Nodems2000

I have seriously been thinking of leaving the country. My hope is pretty much gone that we can turn any of this around. Who would I be staying for....to support the people who ride in the cart and don't contribute and hate this country? I'm too old for all this and if the immigration bill goes through, I totally believe all is lost. How can we pay VAT, Tax and Trade, Healthcare, Local sales taxes, income taxes, etc., etc. and survive? So overused today, but it's "non-sustainable"


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Travel
KEYWORDS: costarica; moving; panama
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1 posted on 03/28/2010 7:15:31 PM PDT by Nodems2000
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To: Nodems2000

Yes.


2 posted on 03/28/2010 7:16:34 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: Nodems2000

Don’t give up hope...yet. We have to fight to recover as much as we can.


3 posted on 03/28/2010 7:16:58 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Nodems2000

Nope. I was born here and I’ll die here.


4 posted on 03/28/2010 7:17:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Nodems2000

last i heard the immigration bill has no chance of passage this year. Maybe next though


5 posted on 03/28/2010 7:17:28 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Nodems2000

Come back with an army of expats when the SHTF.


6 posted on 03/28/2010 7:17:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Nodems2000

Yup. It’s not a definite, but we’ve started looking.


7 posted on 03/28/2010 7:17:35 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Nodems2000

I won’t take advantage of my dual citizenship until it is really the last option.

So far, this is, at least for now, the best place in the world; of course, there are a lot of pukes pushing to make that change.


8 posted on 03/28/2010 7:18:29 PM PDT by elpinta (Jer. 10:23)
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To: Nodems2000

Costa Rica and Panama, no, but Italy has crossed my mind.


9 posted on 03/28/2010 7:18:33 PM PDT by Desdemona (The Triduum FReep fast begins at 6 p.m. CDT Holy Thursday.)
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To: Nodems2000

Yes, the thought has crossed my mind and the raids on Christian Militia with the help of MUSLIMS has decided it.

The question now is where to go.

Hell, I even considered Russia. How crazy is that?


10 posted on 03/28/2010 7:18:37 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Nodems2000

Isn’t Costa Rica an ironical choice, considering that the Federal Government apparatus practically owns and runs the place?


11 posted on 03/28/2010 7:18:42 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Nodems2000

No we’re not going to leave. My ancestors fought the hordes of European settlers to no avail. Do you think I’m going to pull up stakes and run from these Commies, now?

Stake down your sash with your lance and do not retreat.


12 posted on 03/28/2010 7:18:47 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Is Obama an Irish, Italian or Japanese name?)
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To: Nodems2000

Sorry Charlie, but it makes no difference where you go...the IRS will hound you worldwide. Even renouncing your citizenship US laws obligate you for taxes for many years thereafter.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 7:18:50 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98...PROCESS MATTERS)
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To: Nodems2000

I can’t. I don’t have any money and Obama will see to it that I stay that way.


14 posted on 03/28/2010 7:19:08 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Desdemona

Italy is probably among the most Socialist countries in Europe.

An odd choice, there. Is it for cultural reasons?


15 posted on 03/28/2010 7:19:50 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Nodems2000
I know a guy that moved to Panama last year. Recently returned for a short stay. He says he likes it there, but food is pricey. I have another good friend, vietnam USMC vet who moved back there to live 15 years ago. He likes it very much. Wants me to join him there. I'm considering.
16 posted on 03/28/2010 7:19:55 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Nodems2000

I own a house in Boquete, Panama and have seriously considered moving there.


17 posted on 03/28/2010 7:20:16 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Desdemona

Italy sounds nice.

We are mortgage free, built here over 20yrs ago far far away from people in the rural life untill the good Lord takes us home or comes back which ever happens first.


18 posted on 03/28/2010 7:20:55 PM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: cripplecreek

Zackly...


19 posted on 03/28/2010 7:21:12 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: South40

We’re staying to fight.


20 posted on 03/28/2010 7:21:52 PM PDT by beckybea (("Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne)
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To: ExpatGator

Remember the Alamo

Remember the River Raisin.

Border to border it belongs to us. Our ancestors paid for it in blood.


21 posted on 03/28/2010 7:22:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Nodems2000

Nope.


22 posted on 03/28/2010 7:23:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obamacare passed, the Tea Party Movement succeeded only to a point. Need to ramp it up a notch.)
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To: Nodems2000

A buddy of mine went to Costa Rica for the first time earlier this month on vacation and loved it. Said there are a lot of Americans down there, and the locals are very friendly. Convinced me to go check it out for myself.

But to live permanently? Doubt it.


23 posted on 03/28/2010 7:23:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Nodems2000

we must fight for this country...I’m glad George Washington didn’t give up when all seemed losted.


24 posted on 03/28/2010 7:23:36 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: StopObama2012

Why have you given up hope? We won elections in NJ, VA, and MA against all odds. Something like 40 states have filed suit on this healthcare crap. Americans are fired up and committed to taking back power in November.

Don’t let the psychological warfare depress and discourage you.


25 posted on 03/28/2010 7:23:42 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Nodems2000
Why, we got them right where we want’em!
26 posted on 03/28/2010 7:24:01 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 160)
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To: autumnraine

Do not consider Russia. It is still a Communist state.

America is all we have, and we have to fight for it or the entire world goes down the toilet.


27 posted on 03/28/2010 7:24:28 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: beckybea

Good luck.


28 posted on 03/28/2010 7:25:41 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Nodems2000

Leave Texas? Hell no!


29 posted on 03/28/2010 7:25:45 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Nodems2000

Relax, things are going to turn around, and are already beginning to do so at least in the minds and hearts of the people.

Most of the folks who voted for Obama in 08 aren’t brainwashed lefties at all and thought that he would be behaving in a more pragmatic fashion. They did not expect all this socialism, and the Republican candidate assured them they had nothing to worry about.

This isn’t over in the least. People, non-political people, even some democrats are very skeptical of all of this.

And if it was, you wouldn’t want to be in central America anyhow- the US federal government has always had a lot of influence there. If you must move, maybe go to a country committed to growth like India where they speak English.


30 posted on 03/28/2010 7:25:57 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Nodems2000

No


31 posted on 03/28/2010 7:26:38 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Nodems2000

Unless you can live off “investments” and “managing a company”, you can not work in Costa Rica under new laws passed in 2007 to keep out the hordes of hippie Americans and Europeans.


32 posted on 03/28/2010 7:27:39 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Nodems2000

Make them leave.


33 posted on 03/28/2010 7:27:51 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Recon Dad

The poor bastards have us surrounded.


34 posted on 03/28/2010 7:28:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Nodems2000

Our money is going Australian. Don’t know if we physically bail. Maybe Chile.


35 posted on 03/28/2010 7:28:18 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence)
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To: Kenny

I’m still pissed off and hopeful, but if the Communists ram thru “amnesty,” I will consider moving elsewhere.

You see, the USA is becoming a maze of red tape, regulation, and now.... Communism.

I don’t want to live my life as a puppet, working like a dog to pay for a bunch of Moslems and Communists and Mexicans to live it up.


36 posted on 03/28/2010 7:28:36 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: Nodems2000
you leave you children or grandchildren if you have any?.....brothers or sisters?

sure, a lot of us are scared and sick and tired of caring the burden, but I couldn't totally desert my children...

your community...your church...your friends...your neighbors need you.....and your country needs you...

37 posted on 03/28/2010 7:29:46 PM PDT by cherry
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Just bought a perfect little cottage in El Pino, Honduras. It’s 15 minutes from the El Porvenir pristine beach and 15 minutes from the breathtaking Pino Bonito mountain national park. It’s about a half hour from the city of La Ceiba, with its modern shopping centers and health care.

My water bill is $31 a year. My electricity is free. I have a live-in maid for $50 a month. I will pay no Honduras income taxes on income earned outside the country. I paid less for my two-bedroom home than most people pay a year in house payments. And my property taxes are under $200 a year

And on top of all that, Honduras is a free country — with none of the Marxist alphabet agencies that now dictate our every move in the US. And the new conservative government stopped the Obama-Chavez-Zelaya Marxist takeover last June.

So, yes, I do intend to relocate outside of the US. But, for my money, Honduras is a far better buy than either Panama or Costa Rica.


38 posted on 03/28/2010 7:30:20 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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My hope is that Texas become a republic again and I will go there.


39 posted on 03/28/2010 7:30:25 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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You can count me in. I’m definitely interested in Panama...but it seems the laws to emigrate there have recently changed. I read on their site that one has not only to draw a monthly retirement income of at least $750 (doable), but must also invest $100,000 in Panamanian real estate (not doable).

Keep in mind, FReepers an earlier post of mine: it might be better for many of us to stay within the borders of the United Socialist States, but COMPLETELY DISAPPEAR. Read my link to J. J. Luna’s “How to be invisible.” The link is to the first edition from 2000, but you can buy a more recent edition published in 2004. For the most recent information, go to Luna’s website, “howtobeinvisible.com”

Given the fact that it’s going to take a few years to implement zerodeathcare — assuming it isn’t killed by the states and by SCOTUS — I would make haste and start studying this stuff now. If you don’t need it, great. If you do need it, you’ll have things in place to become invisible.


40 posted on 03/28/2010 7:31:10 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: Recon Dad
Why, we got them right where we want’em!

There ya go!!! I'm also a "They've got us surrounded, the poor bastards!" type of guy. If they want this country, they're going to have to pay for it.

41 posted on 03/28/2010 7:31:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The government is "piggin' out" and getting fatter while it demands that the people go on a diet.)
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To: Nodems2000

First, I don’t have the $$ to leave here, and I’m not leaving either the little $$ I do have behind — much less all my family and friends,

Second, Ronald Reagan was right — America is the last, best hope for freedom — there’s nowhere left to go.

Third, I am no better than the Founders — if “the price of freedom is eternal vigilance” for Thomas Jefferson 235 years ago, then it is no less so for me today.

I will stay. I will stand. I will speak. If necessary I will die. I’m not going anywhere until liberty returns to this land.


42 posted on 03/28/2010 7:31:51 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: righttackle44
maybe the answer is to simply amass someone within the US...somewhere that people of like values can live at peace....

my biggest worry is about money though....how to keep the little bit we have...

43 posted on 03/28/2010 7:31:58 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cripplecreek; Nodems2000
I was born here and I’ll die here.

Yup. I was born here and I will die here. I must add that I will die fighting them, and not on my knees.

.223 Rem - Rock River AR-15 .308 Win - Armalite AR-10

44 posted on 03/28/2010 7:32:49 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Nodems2000
There is a simpler solution:


45 posted on 03/28/2010 7:33:06 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Nodems2000

I’m not leaving. I’ll make THEM leave first.


46 posted on 03/28/2010 7:33:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: hampdenkid

Do you live there full time? And how is electricity free? How about internet? Sounds incredible!


47 posted on 03/28/2010 7:33:44 PM PDT by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! No more deficit spending and government control!)
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To: South40

I hear the Chirqui area around Boquette is beautiful and the coffee they grow there is amongst the best in the world. Real estate prices have gone through the roof lately though. Is that true?

I think Panama may be on the radar of many Americans very soon. The populace is used to having Americans around, english is spoken fairly widely, and they have a lot of foreign money moving there.

I would not be surprised to see a medical tourism industry spring up there, as well as a retirement industry for ex pat aAmericans


48 posted on 03/28/2010 7:34:11 PM PDT by milwguy
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To: Nodems2000

Yes.


49 posted on 03/28/2010 7:34:16 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Nodems2000

Me? I’m going to day dream of a USA w/o liberals or anything else that is a threat to our conservative way of life. Reality is almost getting to be too much to suffer.


50 posted on 03/28/2010 7:34:28 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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