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Buying Food at the Dented Can/Salvage Grocery Store (Vanity)
Freerepublic ^ | 3/30/2010 | Dallas59

Posted on 03/31/2010 11:29:42 AM PDT by Dallas59

Has anyone shopped at a Salvage Grocery store? They sell dented canned goods, expired/best if sold by foods, slow/no sell foods. I've heard you can save a bunch. Is it safe to buy food from there? Just asking...thanks.

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1 posted on 03/31/2010 11:29:42 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

There’s a store in Maine that sells food like that also. I used to shop there, never had a problem with anything I bought. In fact, I used to find food items there that weren’t carried in the local grocery stores.


2 posted on 03/31/2010 11:33:10 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: Dallas59

My mother always told me to look at the dent. If there are ANY signs of rust on the dent or if the edge of the dent is sharp to the touch (like you would be afraid of cutting yourself), don’t buy it. Botulism can get in the can if even a microscopic opening is there, not to mention rust in the food if it’s rusty.

I buy dented canned goods, but you just have to inspect them carefully.


3 posted on 03/31/2010 11:36:06 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Dallas59

Depends on how bad the dents are and how long past the “sell by” date. Think botulism.


4 posted on 03/31/2010 11:37:10 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Dallas59

My mom loves the bent food store.


5 posted on 03/31/2010 11:37:25 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Healthcare adds 16,000 new IRS agents and zero new doctors???)
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To: Dallas59

Normally yes, with the usual caveats. Be very careful not to purchase cans whose structural integrity has been compromised or that are swollen from internal pressure. “Sell-by” dates have factored in shelf time after purchase and so are pretty generous in most cases. I ate a five-year-old can of soup a couple of weeks ago while rotating my basement stash and it tasted just fine. YMMV.


6 posted on 03/31/2010 11:37:58 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Dallas59

A German chain called Aldi is expanding rapidly in USA.

Food prices WAY below those in other stores. Only house brands. Quality varies, but some is actually higher than some name brands.

Excellent way to save money.

http://www.aldifoods.com/index_ENU_HTML.htm


7 posted on 03/31/2010 11:39:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Dallas59
They vary. I grew up in a railroad town which got lots of food and canned goods passing through. The freight store was well-run. They pulled bulged dented cans and anything more than a reasonable time past the sell by date. Yes, we saved a bunch. Dad had seven kids to feed.

Just a few rules (which a well-run store should know):

  1. Dented cans are fine, bulges are not.
  2. Meat and dairy products are generally good for at least a week after the sell by date if properly refrigerated. Poultry is only good for about 3-4 days.
  3. Canned goods can be good for YEARS after the sell by date. They do start to loose flavor, though.
  4. Ditto for boxed goods, but a little less time because you have a bigger threat of oxidation and insect infestation. Some things, like instant ramen, are excepted, because they have so many preservatives even cockroaches won't touch them.
  5. Find out when they normally get shipments delivered. Pickings are generally the best in the morning and on weekdays.

8 posted on 03/31/2010 11:41:33 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Dallas59

We will be looking to shop here if things get worse.


9 posted on 03/31/2010 11:42:53 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Sherman Logan

ALDI is great but just for clarity, they don’t sell the dented/outdated stuff.


10 posted on 03/31/2010 11:43:23 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Dallas59

No I haven’t but, nothing wrong with dented cans. The dates are a bit of a concern unless your going to eat it up pretty quickly. Just check the tops of the cans and make sure they aren’t bulging. Push the top of the lid with your finger, if it looks like it’s bulging or pushes down, it’s gotten air in it and it’s not good. If you miss seeing the bulge in a can and you open it up the food will usually spew out of the can, don’t eat it.


11 posted on 03/31/2010 11:44:17 AM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
MSNBC headline:

"Haters at FreeRepublic tell budget conscious poster to get bent!"

12 posted on 03/31/2010 11:46:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I do not want the Union to be maintained. I want the US to break up. I support secession.)
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To: Dallas59

Never heard of a problem from “dents”. If the cans are staged in the cardboard carton in which they were shipped, perhaps you would look at the interior of said carton to see if any leakage had occurred; to gauge how big a hit the carton took. I wouldn’t have any hesitation to buy a mildly dented can if I was looking for a deal.

Better than dented cans, however, I’ve been reading on some folks’ exploits using store coupons. It takes organization and organization time, to be sure. There are sites devoted to this; becoming aware of seasonal pricing patterns, buying in bulk and when it makes sense; exchanging coupons with folks in other parts of the country. This has evolved into a near-religion in some cases.

One fellow I’ve been discussing this with and who seems quite credible and well calculated claims he has gotten his monthly food bill for a family of four from $650 to $150. He believes his wife (who does the logistics) earns a tad over $20 an hour for her labor.


13 posted on 03/31/2010 11:46:57 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Dallas59

It should be safe enough. The pickings are sometimes slim.

They are also “scratch and dent” grocers.

The Grocery Clearance Center in Dallas is one, I think there is one called Town Talk or something in Fort Worth.

http://www.groceryclearancecenter.com/site/page/pg126.html


14 posted on 03/31/2010 11:47:55 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Sherman Logan

Several Aldi stores have opened in the DFW area, so why bother with the Scratch N Dent place?


15 posted on 03/31/2010 11:49:21 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Dallas59

I’ve got a refrigerator and cupboard full of outdated stuff......Maybe I should hold a “kitchen sale”........


16 posted on 03/31/2010 11:50:05 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Dallas59; a fool in paradise

At my upscale supermarket I always head first to the Green Heat Section. That’s all I can afford there, the meats the butchers deeply discount for quick sale. (Just don’t tell ‘em what I call this section.)


17 posted on 03/31/2010 11:50:36 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Gren Heat = Green Meat


18 posted on 03/31/2010 11:51:03 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Billthedrill
I ate a five-year-old can of soup a couple of weeks ago while rotating my basement stash and it tasted just fine.

I've been rotating stuff recently too. I ran across a few cans that were 2005-2009. Some cans didn't even have expiration dates and I knew from they labels (which have changes over the years) they were a few years old.

When I open them, I consider: (1) do they smell okay, (2) do they look okay.

Some foods have a higher acid content and would probably turn bad faster.

As others mentioned, look for rust or corrosion or leakage. Cans that have severely bulged ends (top/bottom) should be avoided. Botulism can cause that, IIRC.
19 posted on 03/31/2010 11:51:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Revolting cat!

Gren = Green


20 posted on 03/31/2010 11:51:36 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Dallas59

Many states have laws that prevent the selling of dented cans because of the chance of botchulism is much greater so be aware of that chance.


21 posted on 03/31/2010 11:55:28 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: PJ-Comix

HERE’s a posting for you to comment on, that couponing saves lots more money than shopping at a a scratch & dent store.


22 posted on 03/31/2010 11:57:35 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Dallas59

Don’t buy flippers, swellers or seam damaged cans. Look closely at the dry goods, pasta, grits and rice for small larvae (Tribolius confusm) or fine dust in the bottom of the packages. A lesson in food storage from the military would help guide you to buy wholesome.


23 posted on 03/31/2010 11:57:59 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Sherman Logan

I have Aldi’s around the corner....save sa lot of money..Bread is a dollar a loaf cheaper, Milk, eggs and dairy products are cheaper. Everything I’ve gotten is excellent quality.


24 posted on 03/31/2010 11:58:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Dallas59

DON’T BUY DENTED CANS


25 posted on 03/31/2010 12:00:46 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: TomGuy; Billthedrill
I didn't save the links, but a few years back, the U.S. Army opened up LOTS of canned goods from the 1970s and they were astounded to find that the food was FINE, and all of it was SAFE to eat.

So it's my impression that except for slight changes in color & texture, IF the food was commercially canned with NO dents & NO pinpoint holes, that one can safely eat most canned food for at least a decade after the "best by" date -- and of course, one MUST store the cans in a cool spot.

26 posted on 03/31/2010 12:01:31 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Dallas59

If the can is dented near a seal and causes a vacuum leak, you can get botulism and die from eating the contents. In supermarket management during the ‘70s and before, we avoided selling canned foods with dents. But the justice and tort system has changed.


27 posted on 03/31/2010 12:02:01 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Aldi has been around for 25 years.


28 posted on 03/31/2010 12:04:10 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

The sell by date is bogus.

It simply means a company ‘guarantees’ the nutrition, for a specific amount of time...

the food inside a can , can be good for decades. Although it might, might, lose a small amount of some vitamin...


29 posted on 03/31/2010 12:04:30 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Dallas59; GregB
People interested in the shelf life of dried foods and/or canned goods, here are MANY studies, all on one page.

That U.S. Army food I referred to was tested after forty six years.

http://grandpappy.info/hshelff.htm

30 posted on 03/31/2010 12:06:26 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Dallas59

We do many times. They buy from the restaurant suppliers and will often have frozen food that is wonderful as well.


31 posted on 03/31/2010 12:07:22 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Dallas59

So long as u don’t mind a little botulism. lol


32 posted on 03/31/2010 12:09:28 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Dallas59
Say, if you happen to be really hurting for money and having difficulty finding enough money to stock up on sales & clearance tables at the grocery store, there's a "trick" I read about that we tried for a couple weeks, and we found it actually worked.

It's quite simple. Next time you're at the grocery store, buy long grain white rice. Then prepare a bunch of it, and store it in ONE-CUP containers in the refrigerator. EVERY single day, every person in the family MUST consume one cup of the white rice, more if they want it. LOL

It's amazing how filling that stuff is, but you might not notice the very first week, but by the end of the second you will. It frees up lots of the grocery budget, if you come across something at a fantastic price, but just can't afford, you actually CAN make room in the food budget.

Another thing about eating a cup or two of rice daily, is that you'll have a far better idea of how your family can truly exist foodwise on long tern storage foods.

I've also read on some of the frugality websites that another way to save money is to buy large quantities of Rice Noodles at oriental grocery stores, and that if you research online, you can sometimes find bulk items your family likes becoming far cheaper if you purchase a very large bag -- e.g., one hundred pound bag of white rice is much cheaper per serving than 50 of the two-pound bags at the grocery store.

33 posted on 03/31/2010 12:14:24 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Sherman Logan

Aldi products are so full of processed chemicals and high fructose corn syrup that it can safely be labeled imitation food.

Good luck with your diabetes and heart disease. It’s beyond crap - the type of junk that is responsible for widespread obesity in America.

But it is a bit cheaper, yes.


34 posted on 03/31/2010 12:15:20 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Phlap

IF there was a serious problem with botulism from the scratch & dent stores, no way would local health departments allow them to remain open for long.


35 posted on 03/31/2010 12:15:41 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sbMKE

I have seen little indication it varies much in this way from the standard run of food products at Walmart or Kroger.

Most of what’s sold at the “normal” grocery store is “imitation food.”


36 posted on 03/31/2010 12:20:48 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: hennie pennie
you can sometimes find bulk items your family likes becoming far cheaper if you purchase a very large bag -- e.g., one hundred pound bag of white rice is much cheaper per serving than 50 of the two-pound bags at the grocery store.

Good idea if you can get to it all before it spoils.

37 posted on 03/31/2010 12:23:42 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MsLady
you miss seeing the bulge in a can and you open it up the food will usually spew out of the can, don’t eat it.

My motto: "If the food spews out of the can, I'm gonna spew into the can."

38 posted on 03/31/2010 12:24:09 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Freddd

I’m still a victim of my mother’s cautionary tales. I’m sure the canning process today is vastly different from when she was a girl. She said small dents were okay, but nothing (as others have said) that causes structural damage to the can and no bulges. As to the sell by date — I guess it all depends upon what it is you’re buying.


39 posted on 03/31/2010 12:24:33 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Dallas59

Here in the northwest it’s Grocery Outlet, Bargain Market

The stuff I’ve seen there is not so much dents, as it is off-label brands that you don’t see in the main stores. Also, I suspect they get stuff in if it’s getting closer to the “sell by” date.

I saw a case of Top Ramen there for 3.49, which adds up to what, like 11 cents each?

Most of the stuff I get there is going into storage. Last week when I left I had a FULL cart, and I mean FULL, and it was like 32 bucks. But it was literally enough food to feed me by myself for a month!!


40 posted on 03/31/2010 12:28:03 PM PDT by djf
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To: Sherman Logan

ALDI’s pastas are quite good, they also have some interesting imported candies.


41 posted on 03/31/2010 12:30:40 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: sbMKE

What about their “light and fit” variety, in terms of calories?


42 posted on 03/31/2010 12:34:25 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: sbMKE

I certainly would agree with you on the quality of the Aldi products. Their produce is of throw-away quality and the frozen sea food is from China. If the store is over a month old the filth will be very noticable. Aldi’s...no thanks, I’d rather take my changes dumpster diving.


43 posted on 03/31/2010 12:38:07 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98...PROCESS MATTERS)
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To: Dallas59

I’m currently eating canned foods, canned juices and single serving oatmeal packets that are seven years old.

Seven years is no big deal except that this food was in a shed in the New Mexico desert, so it was in the worst possible conditions. The temperatures probably easily ranged from 120, to below freezing and some of the cans seemed to have burst from freezing.

While I play around with long stored foods, for instance I just made a box of Betty Crocker Banana Nut Bread that was 4 years out of date, and I didn’t have the required egg (it turned out OK), what I learned from those desert stored cans was that some of the products had picked up the metallic taste and I probably won’t use all of the items like the collard greens and green beans.

Because of the freakishly bad conditions my cans were stored in, the information is not very useful to you guys, but it has convinced me even more that consistent, room temperature storage would have kept everything fine for much longer than 7 years.

The oatmeal packets were fine except for a couple of the flavored ones that had cream flavor, that was a little off. The oldest canned food that I have eaten was some 25 year old, garage stored, civil defense cabbage that was still very edible.


44 posted on 03/31/2010 12:46:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ( If you guys can stop Palin, Romney will not have any real opposition.)
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To: Sherman Logan
White rice has a shelf life of 30 years - granted, most Americans don't eat very much white rice, but in Asia, I read somewhere that individuals consume around 400 pounds per year.

If you eat rice daily, a hundred pound bag isn't going to last long enough to spoil, LOL

45 posted on 03/31/2010 12:47:19 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Shopping with coupons works but the best advantage with cost comes with the most highly processed foods.

The closer you buy to raw natural foods, coupons have less utility.

Works the best on hygeine, laundry and cleaning supplies.


46 posted on 03/31/2010 12:49:26 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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To: hennie pennie

Leave it sitting around in an unairconditioned environment in FL and I guarantee you it won’t last six months.

Unless possibly you store it in airtight cans or the freezer.


47 posted on 03/31/2010 12:49:54 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!!!


48 posted on 03/31/2010 12:56:06 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Absolutely correct. I brought it up as a “saving money on food” adjunct. I was quite surprised at the savings this guy was able to generate. $500 a month is kind of like an all-in car payment on something modest.


49 posted on 03/31/2010 12:58:13 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: TomGuy

While we’re on the subject, does anyone know the practical shelf life for militray MREs? (assuming they’ve been properly stored, and never frozen)

Many thanks.


50 posted on 03/31/2010 12:58:52 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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