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53 Cars Towed from UCF During Glenn Beck Event [ZOT!]
WFTV.com ^ | 3/30/10

Posted on 03/31/2010 11:41:37 AM PDT by Skunkworx

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Dozens of people who parked at the University of Central Florida for an event say they were set up after their cars were towed. They said event parking signs directed them to a lot, but more than 50 cars in that lot were towed. People said those signs and their cars were gone when they got back.

A viewer contacted WFTV after his car was towed Saturday, along with 52 others. All of them were in line to recover their cars at an impound lot and all of them attended the Glenn Beck show at UCF.

The people parked in a Kappa Sigma lot. Mike Vedder thinks they were set up. He doesn't know if it was a dislike of the conservative commentator or money.

“Maybe the have a deal with the tow truck company or maybe they got kickbacks under the table," Vedder said.

They all said an event parking sign clearly directed them into the lot. Students at the fraternity wouldn't comment, but WFTV caught up with the owner of Orange County Towing and Recovery, Ronald Hulbert.

"I have a lot at stake, a lot invested. I'm not going to lose it over a $125 tow, times 53, times 53, it was a good day," Ronald Hulbert said.

Hulbert admits he's never towed that many cars in one day before; he said it took him at least eight hours to tow all the cars. Each driver had to pay cash, netting him more than $6,600.

Vedder also had to pay $25 for a cab ride to the tow company.

UCF said, out of 30 recent events, it hasn’t had a problem, but Vedder said this was his last at that arena.

“I won’t come to anymore. I'm going to tell everyone else it's not a place I want to be," he said.

WFTV was told to call Paul Gamble with Kappa Sigma, but he did not return any phone calls.


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The event was held at the UCF Arena. - Within a 3 block area there at least 3 parking garages as well as a parking lot that can take large numbers of cars. What the article does not tell you is the "fake event" parking at the Fraternity's lot was a solid 1/4 mile or more walk to the arena and you are parking well away from the event when there was adequate parking in the area.

Offended UCF Alumni.

1 posted on 03/31/2010 11:41:37 AM PDT by Skunkworx
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To: Skunkworx

Welcome aboard.


2 posted on 03/31/2010 11:43:49 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Skunkworx
What the article does not tell you is the "fake event" parking at the Fraternity's lot was a solid 1/4 mile or more walk to the arena and you are parking well away from the event when there was adequate parking in the area.

So?

3 posted on 03/31/2010 11:45:26 AM PDT by marron
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To: Skunkworx

If there was nothing to hide, the fraternity should have responded. This many people with the same story indicates to me that something is fishy. I don’t care why they parked at a distance.


4 posted on 03/31/2010 11:46:10 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: Skunkworx

It sounds like a prank to me. I have to admit, if it happened at an Al Gore speech, I’d think it was pretty funny.


5 posted on 03/31/2010 11:46:42 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Skunkworx

Welcome to FREE REPUBLIC


6 posted on 03/31/2010 11:47:52 AM PDT by lucky american (If you think the Libs care about your health.....LOLOLOL)
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To: Skunkworx

I bet most of these people don’t know that, saw the signs and parked there thinking it was the right place.

They were set up by the frat house, period.


7 posted on 03/31/2010 11:48:10 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Skunkworx

Quite interesting that you signed up today just to defend this.


8 posted on 03/31/2010 11:49:22 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: marron

If the attendees were enticed into false event parking, then Glenn Beck should: 1) hire a lawyer on behalf of the attendees and depose the owner of the property; 2) sue the person who had knowledge of, or responsibility for the fraud. Sue the college if there is any connection.


9 posted on 03/31/2010 11:50:24 AM PDT by Tax Government (Repeal Democrats. They believe they are the law.)
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To: Spok

I’d agree if it were a single crafty individual, but if it was the frat organization, not so much.


10 posted on 03/31/2010 11:52:28 AM PDT by Feline_AIDS (youngandright.wordpress.com)
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To: Tax Government

Why is it Glen Beck’s responsibility?


11 posted on 03/31/2010 11:53:10 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: Spok

I’ve always wondered about kids near Forest Hills Stadium during the U.S. Open and Fenway Park during a RedSox game who are offering parking in local driveways. How do I know he has any relationship with the home owner? What if I give him $25 bucks and find my car gone and an irate homeowner asking whothehell said I could park in his driveway?


12 posted on 03/31/2010 11:53:36 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Frats have deep pockets and a good lawyer could probably teach them that pulling those types of ‘pranks’ can be expensive.


13 posted on 03/31/2010 11:55:04 AM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Abathar

Check out the UCF Chapter of Kappa Sigma’s page on Greekrank:

http://www.greekrank.com/Fraternity/302/f/KS-Kappa-Sig/68/

They are getting taken to the cleaners with comments.


14 posted on 03/31/2010 11:55:06 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Skunkworx; Dark Wing
 

Offended UCF Alumni.

 
What exactly are you offended at? How did the possibly illegal towing of 53 cars offend you?
 
Or are you simply offended at conservatives invading your campus to hear Glenn Beck?
 
Sniff.


15 posted on 03/31/2010 11:56:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Skunkworx

So what do you think actually happened here?

Did these 53 separate carloads of event attendees each just randomly decide to park in the inconvenient and unlawful parking lot for no apparent reason?


16 posted on 03/31/2010 12:00:04 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Skunkworx

“Offended UCF Alumni.”

Yes, do tell us which part offended you? Explain why people would park “well away” from decent parking so readily available? Sounds like a scam.


17 posted on 03/31/2010 12:02:59 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Skunkworx

wow. did you and the Frat boys get a good laugh.

I wonder if any of the attendees have photos of the signs?

Would make a good case for a Lawsuit.

What jerkoff Frat brat came up with this juvenile stunt?


18 posted on 03/31/2010 12:05:00 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: F15Eagle; Skunkworx

Don’t hold your breath waiting for a reply. This will probably be his first and last post on FR under that handle. He has probably already “moved on” to other conservative web forums to post the same tripe.


19 posted on 03/31/2010 12:06:47 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Skunkworx

I can’t tell if you’re offended that people are blaming Kappa Sigma or you’re offended that the fraternity did this.

If your offended that folks are blaming Kappa Sigma then your argument holds no water because I can guarantee you that nobody that went to see Glen Beck knows what parking is available at UCF and where that parking is in relation to the event itself.

Frankly, UCF has too little parking for too many people so it’s not surprising that people park in the first ‘Event Parking’ area they see that is available.

What UCF needs to do to solve its parking problems is to charge students a faculty a $2,000.00 a year “carbon” fee to have the privilege to park on campus. The money raised can be used to fund an expanded bus service and off-campus parking.

It’s about time these college liberals start putting their money where their mouth is.


20 posted on 03/31/2010 12:06:55 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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To: Politicalmom; Skunkworx; All
Well well well....looks like Kappa Sigma national had put their Lambda Epsilon (UCF) chapter on PROBATION at some point this year....according to their alumni page:

http://www.ksaacf.org/

Kappa Sigma has placed the ΛE Chapter on probation. During the probation period, the undergraduate brothers cannot attend or participate in a fraternity event or other official gathering where alcohol is being served. Therefore, no alcohol will be available at the dinner and please do not have alcohol with you during the golf event or at the chapter house.

And in searching around, it appears this ain't the first time they've been on probation either. Looks like UCF had them on probabtion last year.

Fraternity chapters on national probation tend to need money, and often resort to unscrupulous means to acquire it. This smells even funnier now.
21 posted on 03/31/2010 12:08:25 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Skunkworx
We are not amused with your post....

Of all the insults we have to deal with on a daily basis....life threatening, anger producing, Constitutional tweaking stuff!...

..and you sign on today to whine ....

Get a life!...

Or better yet....go pay for these folks parking tickets!

22 posted on 03/31/2010 12:08:49 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Skunkworx

“I’m not going to lose it over a $125 tow, times 53, times 53, it was a good day,” Ronald Hulbert said.

Ah, yes, a good day, eh? Nothing like sticking it to some unwitting folks.


23 posted on 03/31/2010 12:08:59 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: CharacterCounts

I think the Viking Kitties need to step in and ask this noob what offended him.


24 posted on 03/31/2010 12:10:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: rogue yam

Did these 53 separate carloads of event attendees each just randomly decide to park in the inconvenient and unlawful parking lot for no apparent reason?

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I went to a concert on a smallish college campus a few months back. Had no idea where the venue was in relation to the parking. I just followed the other cars to a lot on campus.

I know plenty of people that would walk a quarter of a mile to save whatever the parking fee is at the lots closer to wherever they are going.

But, this situation? I have not the slightest idea.


25 posted on 03/31/2010 12:11:15 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Skunkworx

Offended? The folks that had their cars towed should be offended. It doesn’t matter where other parking was available, if someone put a sign out that said “Park Here” and then had the cars towed, they should be held accountable. Also, I sincerely hope that you didn’t register on FR just to defend this crap and if you get offended that easily you won’t last long on here anyway.


26 posted on 03/31/2010 12:12:04 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Skunkworx

Sniff.....IBTZ


27 posted on 03/31/2010 12:16:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Skunkworx

Man oh man, just how long does a Glen Beck event take? The tow truck guy says it took him EIGHT hours to tow all those vehicles.


28 posted on 03/31/2010 12:16:21 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

These particular events were all day. 10 to 5 I think.


29 posted on 03/31/2010 12:17:48 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("workers of the world unite, it's not just a slogan anymore" SEIU's Andy Stern)
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To: Skunkworx; darkwing104

This one has potential ;-)


30 posted on 03/31/2010 12:18:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Tax Government; Skunkworx
If the attendees were enticed into false event parking, then Glenn Beck should: 1) hire a lawyer on behalf of the attendees and depose the owner of the property; 2) sue the person who had knowledge of, or responsibility for the fraud. Sue the college if there is any connection.

I agree. Some jokes are funny. A joke that costs you $125 and a lot of lost time is not funny.

Whoever pulled this prank should get to deal with the consequences.

I'll bet a prank that costs you $6000 plus a lawyer is really not funny.

31 posted on 03/31/2010 12:20:18 PM PDT by marron
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To: bamahead

“Quite interesting that you signed up today just to defend this.”

LOL! sniff.....


32 posted on 03/31/2010 12:20:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: ravingnutter

I have a couple of attorney friends. I don’t know about handling other people’s problems, but I know if this happened to one of them- well, I would hate to be the person responsible for such a deception.

In fact, one of them told me a few months ago that she is giving hell to a company that pulled the same trick on her - etc. “It’s not the money, it’s the principle of the thing.”


33 posted on 03/31/2010 12:20:29 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Skunkworx

A full police investigation should be held.
UCF should suspend them until the investigation is finished.
The national chapter should suspend the fraternity at once.
Too many problems.

People the same age are remaking the Middle East with guns, diplomacy and their lives. These goofballs really look bad and they have disgraced the national organization.


34 posted on 03/31/2010 12:20:34 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: NeoCaveman

Gotcha. I was thinking a talk, so at most a couple of hours.


35 posted on 03/31/2010 12:22:00 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Tax Government

Glenn Beck should reimburse the victims, something O’Reilly wouldn’t hesitate to do.


36 posted on 03/31/2010 12:23:47 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: bamahead
Well well well....looks like Kappa Sigma national had put their Lambda Epsilon (UCF) chapter on PROBATION at some point this year.

They are? Well, as of this moment, they're on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!

37 posted on 03/31/2010 12:23:58 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
Let Kappa Sigma know what you think about the Character of the young men at the Lambda-Epsilon chapter..

http://www.kappasigma.org/contact_us

38 posted on 03/31/2010 12:24:18 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Skunkworx

The tow truck company must have a record of who called him and authorized the towing. It sounds like he was taken in by a fraud also. If he cooperates with authorites he should be off the hook, if he withholds the info then he is complicit in the fraud.

It shouldn’t be to hard for some reporter to determine who made the tow call. If you car got towed, I believe you are entitled to know who demanded the tow.


39 posted on 03/31/2010 12:24:50 PM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: Skunkworx
For Tea partiers going to the Searchlight meet in the barren Nevada desert lands, there were lib shysters along the way with signs misdirecting traffic off on side roads. (And a side road in those barren wastelands - particularly with a camper trailor - can take you a long way out of your way.

It looks like these tactics are part of a new game plan. Every one needs to be documented. (Were the tables turned, there would already be arrests and 24/7 MSM outrage.)

40 posted on 03/31/2010 12:25:00 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Skunkworx
I find your lack of responses ... disturbing.


41 posted on 03/31/2010 12:27:45 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (Bachmann - More Gravitas, Less Twang.)
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To: Skunkworx

Welcome to FR!


42 posted on 03/31/2010 12:27:54 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Mogollon

Some definite parallels between this incident and what happened to Breitbart in Searchlight.

http://barracknow.blogspot.com/2010/03/video-evidence-breitbart-telling-truth.html

If this is as it appears, Beck should use it as a “teachable moment” on his television show.


43 posted on 03/31/2010 12:28:00 PM PDT by Ben Barrack (Let's Talk About Something Important!)
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To: Skunkworx

This type of action happened during the TX OU football game in 2008 - the tow truck company lost it’s liscense.


44 posted on 03/31/2010 12:28:31 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Tax Government

It costs a lot of money to hire a lawyer.

It costs even more money to pay that lawyer to sue.

If you don’t win, then you are out that money.

If you do win, you are out that money.

So, why should Glenn Beck be out money?


45 posted on 03/31/2010 12:29:45 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Skunkworx

LOL! Frat pranks are the worst!


46 posted on 03/31/2010 12:32:28 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: q_an_a

Now there’s a story with a happy ending.


47 posted on 03/31/2010 12:35:00 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Skunkworx

At least some people learned a lesson about private property rights.

48 posted on 03/31/2010 12:37:11 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Pan_Yan

Yes, since he took the time to sign up and learn to post, you’d think there would be one response to the questions posed.


49 posted on 03/31/2010 12:37:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Skunkworx
Offended UCF Alumni.

I think that Kappa Sigma at UCF owes 53 people $6600 dollars for their little prank. After all it is the right thing to do, and you are building character at your fraternity, aren't you??? What do you think???

50 posted on 03/31/2010 12:37:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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