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A Theological Sports Question for FREEPERS

Posted on 04/12/2010 9:44:33 AM PDT by Dawebman

When Tiger Woods badly missed a shot Sunday during his Career Revival Tour at The Masters, CBS microphones clearly recorded him cursing the name of "Jesus Christ."

I thought Tiger was a Buddhist?

Asked about two strings that Tiger wears near his watch, "It's Buddhist. It's for protection and strength and I certainly need that," he told the Golf Channel's Kelly Tilghman. He said he began wearing the Buddhist bracelet before he went into therapy treatment and said he will "absolutely" be wearing it at the Masters and forever.

In fact, Tiger attributes straying from Buddhism for losing control in his life: During an interview with "Faith & Reason" dated March 23, 2010, Tiger said, "I quit meditating, I quit being a Buddhist and my life changed upside down."

If Tiger is indeed still a Buddhist, why is he cursing the name of Jesus Christ?"

Shouldn't he have beeen cursing Buddha instead?"

So how's that "protection and strength" thing working out for you, Tiger?





TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Sports
KEYWORDS: buddhism; christianity; cursing; tiger

1 posted on 04/12/2010 9:44:34 AM PDT by Dawebman
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To: Dawebman
If Tiger is indeed still a Buddhist, why is he cursing the name of Jesus Christ?"

Because he's a lost man who needs to turn from his paganism and get saved?

2 posted on 04/12/2010 9:45:37 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Dawebman

So what


3 posted on 04/12/2010 9:45:59 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: al baby

I was drawn in by what I thought would be a theological question worthy of thought.

Nope, just another Tiger wood’s thread.


4 posted on 04/12/2010 9:47:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Dawebman
Shouldn't he have beeen cursing Buddha instead?

Bad karma. If you meditate about it for a while, you'll understand.

5 posted on 04/12/2010 9:48:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dawebman

Atheists routinely invoke the names God and Jesus when they are outraged.


6 posted on 04/12/2010 9:48:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Dawebman

Who cares about Woods? I am glad the focus of golf is back upon a man with proper perspective in his life: his family comes first. Phil Mickelson. I would be happy to see him win a 4th Masters (like Woods) next year and forgetting all about “Tiger” the detestable egoist.


7 posted on 04/12/2010 9:48:53 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Dawebman

For the same reason another mixed race “black” Muslim claims to be a Christian.

For some, Jesus Christ! is just an expletive with no meaning behind it.


8 posted on 04/12/2010 9:49:12 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Dawebman

Because all the good Zoroastrian profanities are copyrighted.


9 posted on 04/12/2010 9:49:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: al baby

so what?

This is a good post.

Far too many people curse the name of “Jesus”, but they do not even realize that their own cursing indicates how they are tormented by their own separation from the Prince of Peace.

....Long sentence, but, hey.


10 posted on 04/12/2010 9:50:28 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Dawebman

I think the question is kind of pointless. Tiger Woods is a full-of-sh!t media construct, so there’s no reason to believe anything this moron says. If he weren’t one of the top golfers in the world nobody would care what he had to say.


11 posted on 04/12/2010 9:52:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Oh for the love of Cthulhu......


12 posted on 04/12/2010 9:52:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Not to mention, muttering “Zoroaster” under your breath is archaic.


13 posted on 04/12/2010 9:52:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Because he's a lost man who needs to turn from his paganism and get saved?

...Obama carries a Hindu pockey monkey idol and other charms with him.


14 posted on 04/12/2010 9:53:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Dawebman

First, cursing the name Jesus is more likely cultural than anything, I wouldn’t read too much into it.

Second, as a Buddhist, Tiger shouldn’t be giving into anger like that. Of course, he isn’t a real Buddhist, he just practices that Hollywood version which basically means he does what he wants. If he were a real Buddhist, he would eschew his material possessions, not give into anger or fleshly desires, spend his time seeking enlightenment, not hookers.


15 posted on 04/12/2010 9:53:28 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Dawebman
Cursing "Jesus Christ" is practically an American colloquialism.

None of the boogeymen from the sky are going to save your golf game, or anything else for that matter.

That folks think that the one brand of made up superstition they use as their spiritualism is any more "real" than the next is a common logical fallacy endemic to humans.
16 posted on 04/12/2010 9:54:22 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: Alberta's Child
"If he weren’t one of the top golfers in the world nobody would care what he had to say."

Too many people forget that. ;-0

17 posted on 04/12/2010 9:55:13 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: al baby

Give me your wife’s name so I can use it in a vulgar and
salacious manner. If I did that to her face would you say
so what? I don’t think so. When someone we love is wronged
and demeaned for no reason it hurts. That’s the “so what”!


18 posted on 04/12/2010 9:58:17 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: Dawebman
I thought Tiger was a Buddhist?

A lot of people who deny Christ like to use his name.

19 posted on 04/12/2010 9:59:00 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: a fool in paradise

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he’s a lost man who needs to turn from his paganism and get saved


20 posted on 04/12/2010 10:00:02 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: Dawebman
Woods has always had a smarmy mouth and even after his rehab he still curses in front of fans and children. His use of "Jesus Christ" as an expletive reveals he still has a long way to go before he's the man he insists he hopes to be.

My husband says in one way it's a victory for Christ that even idiot Buddhists use the name of Jesus as the universal curse word. The calendar is dated world-wide from His birth and His name is invoked as the preeminent sounding-board.

Whether Buddhists understand it or not, the world was made by Christ, for Christ and through Christ. He is in charge; not Woods. God willing, one day Woods will know that. Until then, he's just a snarky kid with an attitude, few friends and one marketable skill.

21 posted on 04/12/2010 10:01:08 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yep.


22 posted on 04/12/2010 10:01:40 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dawebman

“If Tiger is indeed still a Buddhist, why is he cursing the name of Jesus Christ?”
Because he is a sinner....


23 posted on 04/12/2010 10:03:51 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Barack Obama is no Christian and the media continues to cover for him. Nothing about the man says he sees Jesus Christ as his personal savior.

He’s as dishonest on matters of faith as he is on matters of Marxism.


24 posted on 04/12/2010 10:04:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Doulos1

Still so what. I considered the source a looser of a man and Im tired of poor old Tiger Plus my wife would beat the crap out of you


25 posted on 04/12/2010 10:06:36 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Dawebman

Jesus after hitting a bad shot...”Tiger Woods, YOU SUCK.”


26 posted on 04/12/2010 10:07:41 AM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

It was because of my father that from the ages of seven to fifteen, I thought that my name was ‘Jesus Christ’ and my brother, Russell, thought that his name was ‘Dammit’. “Dammit, will you stop all that noise?” And, “Jesus Christ, sit down!” One day, I’m out playing in the rain, and my father yelled, “Dammit will you get back in here!” I said, “Dad, I’m Jesus Christ!”

- Bill Cosby


27 posted on 04/12/2010 10:11:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dawebman

Counter-question: If a buddhist uses the name of Christ in vain, is it a curse to the utterer?


28 posted on 04/12/2010 10:14:59 AM PDT by MortMan (It's unconstitutional, it's wrong, and it's evil. But that's Obama in a nutshell.)
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To: fishtank

BTTT

I was there once.


29 posted on 04/12/2010 10:16:01 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Dawebman
I wish people would stop attacking Tiger Woods.

His problem is his problem.

He was never elected to office and no tax dollars go to his career.

His problems are between him and his wife and no one else.

Pursuing issues like this make us look foolish and mean-spirited.

If he were a Senator or Congressman or governor, then I would be concerned, as in the case of Sanford of South Carolina, or Spitzer of New York.

The man has a problem. He is sick. Leave him alone to play golf, try to repair his marriage, and get rid of his addictions.

30 posted on 04/12/2010 10:32:40 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: cripplecreek

“Oh for the love of Cthulhu......”

Iä! Shub-Niggurath! The Black Goat of the WOODS with a Thousand Young!

Freegards


31 posted on 04/12/2010 10:35:28 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Dawebman

Remember,he’s a Bootyist,not a Buddhist.


32 posted on 04/12/2010 10:38:38 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( FIRE STUPAK: LindaForCongress.com)
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To: Dawebman

Why does anyone use “Jesus Christ” as an expletive? I don’t believe that one’s religious affiliation makes one bit of difference. I mean, is the author really suggesting that it’s better for christians to use their god’s name in vain than for someone else to use it that way? lol


33 posted on 04/12/2010 10:48:10 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: a fool in paradise

“Atheists routinely invoke the names God and Jesus when they are outraged.”

Yes, the truth comes out. I’ve never heard anyone using any other “god”’s name like that.


34 posted on 04/12/2010 10:57:24 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: MortMan

“Counter-question: If a buddhist uses the name of Christ in vain, is it a curse to the utterer?”

It’s a sin to the utterer; the third commandment is broken.


35 posted on 04/12/2010 10:59:26 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Persevero

The 3rd Buddhist or Christian commandment - which is the point of the question to begin with...


36 posted on 04/12/2010 11:06:37 AM PDT by MortMan (It's unconstitutional, it's wrong, and it's evil. But that's Obama in a nutshell.)
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To: MortMan

The point of my answer is that there is only one God. If you take His name in vain, you have broken the 3rd commandment. Whether you admit it or not.


37 posted on 04/12/2010 11:11:13 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Persevero

I understand your point of view, and I personally agree with it.

But, the fact that it breaks a christian commandment does not make it a sin from another religion’s point of view.


38 posted on 04/12/2010 11:15:47 AM PDT by MortMan (It's unconstitutional, it's wrong, and it's evil. But that's Obama in a nutshell.)
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To: MortMan

Oh, Tiger may not “feel” like he’s sinning. Obviously he’s pretty hard-hearted to that sort of thing!

But whether he “feels” good or “feels” bad is irrelevant, of course. It is God’s opinion of the matter that counts.


39 posted on 04/12/2010 11:17:38 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Persevero

I’ll try one more time to convey my meaning, which I fear is not coming across properly.

You and I (and the Pope, for that matter) can recognize the utterance as a christian sin. But from a theological (as opposed to dogmatic) point of view, “sin” is defined differently by different faiths. Your absolute assertion that it is a sin is dogmatic - you adhere to your definition of sin, no matter the context.

The assertion, no matter that I agree with it, is insufficient to address the theological debate I was proposing. Because this debate must be predicated on balancing one religion’s tenets against another’s, the dogmatic assertion of primacy of christianity is unsupportable - on an academic level.

The debate has nothing to do with feelings - it has to do with the definition of “sin”.


40 posted on 04/12/2010 11:26:57 AM PDT by MortMan (It's unconstitutional, it's wrong, and it's evil. But that's Obama in a nutshell.)
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To: al baby

I too, am tired of the Tiger coverage.
Let the Buddhist die in his sins.
He just needs to watch his filthy mouth
when he is around a camera/microphone.


41 posted on 04/12/2010 11:55:24 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: thackney

Yes, I was too.

He found me and changed me.


42 posted on 04/12/2010 12:10:39 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Dawebman

Watch ANY Woody Allen movie.

Though raised Jewish, Woody Allen is an avowed atheist.

Yet he uses “Jesus Christ” as a curse, an expression of surprise, an expression of puzzlement, an expression of sexual frustration, an expression of hunger, an expression of despair, or whatever, in nearly every one of his movies.

It is a pseudo-intellectual conceit.

However, the name of no other deity worshiped by any other tribe or language group on earth carries as much linguistic and emotional power.

Oh Thor! Oh Osiris! Oh Ares! Oh Marx! YAWN.


43 posted on 04/12/2010 12:14:48 PM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: MortMan

“The debate has nothing to do with feelings - it has to do with the definition of “sin”.”

If you say so. I like to present God’s law as absolute, and the God of the Bible as the only true God. I don’t like to go along with different presuppositions. For instance, I don’t like to conjecture, what if there is a different God? Or what if God’s law isn’t in the Bible? Or so on.

I am a big fan of absolute truth.

For what it is worth, sin is any want of conformity unto, or transgression of, the law of God.


44 posted on 04/12/2010 1:28:32 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: left that other site

There is only one god,
and he is the sun god...
Ra! Ra! Ra!

(got a kid thrown off the cheerleading squad in Catholic school...)


45 posted on 04/12/2010 3:55:06 PM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Dawebman
Because to him it's a meaningless expletive. I mean, I used to use the f-word a lot but that doesn't mean I ever got an...

Wait. Don't hit the post button. DON'T HIT THE POST BUT

46 posted on 04/12/2010 4:11:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mrs. a

That would do it!

That would do it at Aketaton High School too.


47 posted on 04/12/2010 6:21:17 PM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: dfwgator

LOL. Thanks. That was a long time ago.


48 posted on 04/12/2010 7:02:13 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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