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F-15s May Air Launch PAC-3s
Space War ^ | 1/17/2007 | Martin Sieff

Posted on 04/12/2010 5:59:11 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Lockheed Martin has won a contract from the U.S. Missile Defense Agency to explore firing Patriot Advanced Capability-3 anti-ballistic missiles from airplanes. The company said the tests would initially focus on using the Boeing McDonnell-Douglas F-15 Eagle as the launch platform for the PAC-3s. Although the initial $ 3 million funding for the research program is small by the expensive R and D budgets of the BMD programs, its implications could be far reaching. The program is known as the Air-Launched Hit-to-Kill, or ALHTK, initiative. If successful, the program would eventually see U.S. Air Force fighter aircraft equipped with PAC-3s that they could air launch. The speed and range of the F-15s would carry the PAC-3s far closer to their targets than was previously imagined possible and give them a boost of up to around 1,500 miles per hour, or faster than Mach 2, significantly improving their performance and the likelihood that they could intercept and destroy incoming intercontinental ballistic missiles.

"Envisioned to protect the homeland from missile threats, ALHTK could also defend deployed forces," Lockheed Martin said in a statement Tuesday. "A risk assessment contract that concluded in April 2006 identified the feasibility of pursuing this high-payoff concept. The new Risk Reduction/Concept Definition Program will refine the risk, and further define the concept and expected system performance." it said.

(Excerpt) Read more at spacewar.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abm; aerospace; airdefense; alhtk; bmd; f15; f15c; f23; icbm; launchplatform; lockheedmartin; missiledefense; nmd; pac3; patriotmissile; usaf

1 posted on 04/12/2010 5:59:11 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove; KevinDavis

interesting idea


2 posted on 04/12/2010 6:01:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Shhhhh. Don't tell Obama.

He will either scrap the program or give it to the Russians for a case of Vodka to serve at his Wednesday night cocktail parties.

3 posted on 04/12/2010 6:04:04 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Obamunism, the fatal cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome.)
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To: GeronL

Makes sense. F-15 was the launch platform for the 1980s ASAT missile test.


4 posted on 04/12/2010 6:05:14 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: GeronL

This is an absolutely fantastic idea.


5 posted on 04/12/2010 6:12:44 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Who are you calling an ASAT??

:)


6 posted on 04/12/2010 6:25:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I would love to see if that works


7 posted on 04/12/2010 6:25:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Good ol F-15’s

STILL one of the best machines ever made.

RIP McDonald Douglas. I don’t know what you did to PO the bureaucrats but they killed you.

Obama will hate this idea...

OUT next year! :)


8 posted on 04/12/2010 6:28:43 PM PDT by No!
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To: GeronL
Who are you calling an ASAT??

Barry Hussein, of course. Either way you pronounce it, his is one.

9 posted on 04/12/2010 6:31:30 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Hmm, I thought Raytheon already demonstrated this technology. IIRC they took an AMRAAM, put a slightly modified Sidewinder (IR) seeker on it, and demonstrated the capability... ???

I would guess the PAC has a longer range, bigger engagement envelope. But it is a big beast too. Wonder if an F-15 could carry more than one or two of them? (and get up to significant altitude and speed). What's the load-out capability of an F-15 with AMRAAMs? Personally, I think I'd like more shots... But that's just me.

10 posted on 04/12/2010 6:58:10 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: spetznaz; F15Eagle

Ping


11 posted on 04/12/2010 8:04:11 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The speed and range of the F-15s would carry the PAC-3s far closer to their targets than was previously imagined possible and give them a boost of up to around 1,500 miles per hour, or faster than Mach 2, significantly improving their performance and the likelihood that they could intercept and destroy incoming intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Can an F-15 do Mach 2 with externals?

12 posted on 04/12/2010 8:08:05 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: ThunderSleeps

The Patriot would be fitted where the F-15C fuel pylon is located. The plane’s sensors will feed fire-control data to the missile. They are looking to attaching the Patriot for the F-16,F-22,and F-35.


13 posted on 04/12/2010 8:09:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Sergio

Remember, it does carry external fuel tanks and it does go Mach 2 as for as I know. The Patriot missile will be fitted where the fuel tanks are located.


14 posted on 04/12/2010 8:10:55 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I guess they’d have to separate first prior to ignition to maintain a stable platform and with little chance of wrecking the F-15.

I’m thinking of the D-21 that suffered the inlet stall as it lifted from the back of the SR-71 and crashed into it off California.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpJ4uE-3mBI

Ben Rich wrote that Torrick was killed when he opened his visor allowing the sea to fill up his flight suit and he sank like a stone.

With these missiles being factory-sealed I wonder how they can externalize them. It’s not impossible, of course. So I guess it will be a release with a delayed start like an ALCM, giving time for a separation maneuver.

I hope ASAT was never scrapped but simply shelved.


15 posted on 04/12/2010 11:16:55 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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