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Chinese submarines, destroyers spotted in high seas near Okinawa
Japan Today ^ | 4-13-10 | Japan Today

Posted on 04/14/2010 4:52:44 PM PDT by Shaun_MD

TOKYO —

Two Chinese submarines and eight destroyers were spotted by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force on Saturday in the high seas between the main island of Okinawa and Miyako Island in the southernmost prefecture, Defense Minister Toshimi Kitazawa said Tuesday.

The defense chief said the Chinese submarines and destroyers were navigating southeastward, adding that Tokyo has never before confirmed such a large number of Chinese vessels near Japan.

The Joint Staff Office of the Self-Defense Forces later said that Chinese submarines were seen on the sea surface near Japan for the first time and that Beijing had not notified Tokyo of the fleet navigation in the East China Sea toward the Pacific Ocean.

Two MSDF destroyers Choukai and Suzunami spotted the fleet of Chinese combatant craft in the sea near the Nansei Islands about 140 kilometers west-southwest of the Okinawa main island around 8 p.m. Saturday. Those Chinese vessels conducted refueling on the sea on Sunday, according to the office.

Flight training of helicopters aboard some of the Chinese destroyers was conducted between last Wednesday and Friday in the East China Sea and one of the choppers flew some 90 meters away from the MSDF destroyer Suzunami, the office said.

Japan has made an inquiry to China through diplomatic channels about the submarine navigation and lodged a protest over the helicopter’s proximate flight, which it deems dangerous, according to the office.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: appeasement; asia; capitulation; china; japan; nukesummit; obama; okinawa; weakness
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1 posted on 04/14/2010 4:52:44 PM PDT by Shaun_MD
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To: Shaun_MD

2 posted on 04/14/2010 4:56:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media is your daddy.)
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To: Shaun_MD

Were they in Japanese waters? or just really close?


3 posted on 04/14/2010 5:07:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: GeronL

I can’t tell if they were in Japanese territorial waters or not.


4 posted on 04/14/2010 5:13:56 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Shaun_MD

Wouldn’t that be much more alarming?


5 posted on 04/14/2010 5:15:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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6 posted on 04/14/2010 5:17:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: GeronL
Thank you.

Yes, have been following this very closely.

The new boldness is linked inextricably to the policies of one Mr. Barack Insane Obama, if you ask me (and many others in Japan and the Region nowadays).

7 posted on 04/14/2010 5:20:58 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2012 Prediction! Pres. Biden vs. Fmr. SOS Clinton....with Fmr. Pres. Obama still in mental rehab)
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To: GeronL

Is this is sop for the Chinese Navy?


8 posted on 04/14/2010 5:22:36 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Looking at a map that looks like Japanese waters to me.

Although I also know there is a huge US military presence on Okinawa. Did the US forces notice this fleet? Did it not share that with Japan?

Barack has certainly emboldened our adversaries.


9 posted on 04/14/2010 5:23:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: Shaun_MD

They are bolder than ever


10 posted on 04/14/2010 5:24:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: GeronL

With Obama in the White House, can you blame them? The whole world is laughing at us, with the exception of our enemies, who are too busy licking their chops.


11 posted on 04/14/2010 5:28:35 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Shaun_MD

The US Navy has also spotted several russian submarines patrolling near the east coast in recent months. Obama endangers all of us by the day.


12 posted on 04/14/2010 5:41:17 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Shaun_MD
Believe me, as I have been telling people since November, Obongo's bowing to leaders in Asia speaks volumnes, and is emboldening people (leaders, military planners and foreign policy officials) far beyond where they should be emboldened.

And we know it is not just noobie White House incompetence now. We are way past that.

It is deliberate. This man is a clear and present danger to the United States of America and our allies. I wont hesitate to say that any more from now on. I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt; and he is going to get us into a WAR or a SERIES OF WARS as a result of this projection of "soft power" as they call it, amongst a world of wolves.

13 posted on 04/14/2010 5:47:48 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2012 Prediction! Pres. Biden vs. Fmr. SOS Clinton....with Fmr. Pres. Obama still in mental rehab)
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To: Prole

I had not heard that. Do you have a link?


14 posted on 04/14/2010 5:48:47 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Shaun_MD

Time for Japan to rearm.


15 posted on 04/14/2010 5:54:42 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: GeronL

Some of this is not open source. However, I can say that it may well have been into Japanese waters, at least briefly, as a test but more than likely they kept in international waters and are just playing cat and mouse games for the time being. They are coming increasingly close, though. It is still under investigation, i.e. as to exactly what they were doing over there on Sunday night.


16 posted on 04/14/2010 5:58:26 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2012 Prediction! Pres. Biden vs. Fmr. SOS Clinton....with Fmr. Pres. Obama still in mental rehab)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Agreed. That’s the gameplan. Destroy the current system so they can pick up the pieces and rebuild it into their socialist utopia. You can’t very well have that as long as we are still a center right, capitalist country.


17 posted on 04/14/2010 6:00:10 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Shaun_MD

Who is the FReeper that keeps us up to date on Chinese naval power?


18 posted on 04/14/2010 6:03:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine; AmericanInTokyo

Not sure, But AmericanInTokyo is in a very good place to know.


19 posted on 04/14/2010 6:06:32 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It is deliberate. This man is a clear and present danger to the United States of America and our allies.

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I agree, and I believe that it is his intent to have us taken down a peg or two to fulfill the fantasies of him and his America-hating cohort.


20 posted on 04/14/2010 6:11:01 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Shaun_MD

The US Navy has had a tremendous run at being dominant on the world’s oceans - and we as a country have benefited from that militarily and through implied pressures. It’s naive to think that other countries are not envious and working diligently to build their own naval powers to suit their own aims. If we want to stay ahead, it’ll be through foreward thought, determination and innovation. Be smarter, work harder, and play the ‘game’ better. I’m still optimistic that we have the grit, but make no mistake, the game has been elevated.


21 posted on 04/14/2010 6:11:47 PM PDT by Sax
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To: Shaun_MD

The big bear is just flexing his muscles a little bit....we’ll see a whole lot more....pushing more limits in the future. There can be no doubt that eventually we will go to war with China, perhaps allied with the EU, Japan and Australia. How Russia plays their cards I’m not so sure.


22 posted on 04/14/2010 6:15:32 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: northwinds

I take a different view. I’m thinking we’ll be at war with Russia and China will be content to sit it out until it sees a clear winner.


23 posted on 04/14/2010 6:22:09 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Shaun_MD
I wonder if China wants revenge on Japan for the atrocities of WW2...
24 posted on 04/14/2010 6:22:33 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think is name is TigerLikesRooster


25 posted on 04/14/2010 6:24:01 PM PDT by hawkboy
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To: Randy Larsen

No doubt that will be a big factor.


26 posted on 04/14/2010 6:24:46 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Jeff Head but he is ailing right now (prayers for Jeff).


27 posted on 04/14/2010 6:26:28 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That is what I find interesting. They are testing the limits.


28 posted on 04/14/2010 6:30:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: GeronL

Just speculation on my part, but here goes. China and Russia are waiting for the Middle East to go up, and when we are tangled up there, China will go for Taiwan and possibly Japan while North Korea makes its moves toward South Korea and Japan. Russia will no doubt attempt to reclaim it’s former satellites. This incident with the Chinese Navy, the Polish plane crash, Kyrgyzstan, it’s all pieces of a larger puzzle.


29 posted on 04/14/2010 6:39:09 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: hawkboy; TigerLikesRooster

It’s polite to ping them when you mention them.

Just thought I’d mention that


30 posted on 04/14/2010 6:41:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: Shaun_MD

Don’t leave out the Spratley’s and Philippines. They want to whack the Philipines and Japan, I don’t think they want to occupy them.

I bet they’d love to have Okinawa


31 posted on 04/14/2010 6:43:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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32 posted on 04/14/2010 6:45:50 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: GeronL

I’d be interested in knowing just what we have on Okinawa but I don’t want it posted here. Loose lips and all that.


33 posted on 04/14/2010 6:47:31 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Shaun_MD
俎板 China is getting busy.
34 posted on 04/15/2010 3:16:28 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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