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RIAA/MPAA Want Government-Mandated Spyware That Deletes 'Infringing' Content Automatically
Gizmodo ^ | 15 April 2010 | Adam Frucci

Posted on 04/15/2010 9:19:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce

The RIAA and MPAA have submitted a plan to the Office of Intellectual Property Enforcement. It's basically a plan that they want the government to enact, and it's terrifying.

Here are some of the lovely things that they're calling for:

* spyware on your computer that detects and deletes infringing materials;
* mandatory censorware on all Internet connections to interdict transfers of infringing material;

* border searches of personal media players, laptops and thumb-drives;
* international bullying to force other countries to implement the same policies;
* and free copyright enforcement provided by Fed cops and agencies (including the Department of Homeland Security!).

Uh, yeah. So we'd basically give up all of our privacy so the government could play copyright cops for the RIAA and MPAA. This is crazy stuff, and one's got to assume that it's so crazy that the government would never listen to it. But good lord. [EFF via Boing Boing]


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: mpaa; riaa; tech

1 posted on 04/15/2010 9:19:30 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

2 posted on 04/15/2010 9:19:48 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


3 posted on 04/15/2010 9:21:21 AM PDT by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: ShadowAce

“The RIAA and MPAA have submitted a plan to the Office of Intellectual Property Enforcement.”

All three need to be shutdown.


4 posted on 04/15/2010 9:21:44 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: ShadowAce
This is crazy stuff, and one's got to assume that it's so crazy that the government would never listen to it.

This government might listen to it. They want to control everything else.

5 posted on 04/15/2010 9:22:16 AM PDT by Reagan is King (>>> ALWAYS VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES! <<<)
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To: Reagan is King

yup. Just another step towards socialism


6 posted on 04/15/2010 9:24:02 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

What are “infringing materials”?


7 posted on 04/15/2010 9:31:58 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: ShadowAce

Most are technologies already in play. What worries me is the “Borders” terminology. These “Borders” can easily be transposed into Digital Borders - Either opening or closing your digital domain to other countries. So that if you travel to Mexico with an MP3 player, your content is American property.

Much like a courier bag on an international flight.


8 posted on 04/15/2010 9:32:26 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: ShadowAce

So when I rip my CD so I can play it on my MP3 player how are they going to know if it’s an illegal copy? Do they expect that all MP3 players will play only online purchased content?


9 posted on 04/15/2010 9:35:23 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: ShadowAce

Not surprising, this is their world view.

But I don’t think they have the smarts to stay a jump ahead of the inevitable countermeasures. This will just make it easier for them to catch those who don’t know better.


10 posted on 04/15/2010 9:35:28 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: ShadowAce
RIAA/MPAA Want Government-Mandated Spyware That Deletes 'Infringing' Content Automatically

I'd give it 24 hours before some 16 year old hacker will have figured out how to disable it and posted his "fix" all over the internet...

11 posted on 04/15/2010 9:38:52 AM PDT by apillar
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To: ShadowAce; bamahead

Copyright is a civil matter, not a criminal matter; this is definitely going too far, and the RIAA/MPAA should be investigated for anti-trust violations and racketeering.


12 posted on 04/15/2010 9:41:10 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: bigbob

Putting aside my views on copyright and violations thereof, it’s obvious that the RIAA/MPAA believe that political contributions should earn an astronomical rate of return (see also: unions).

Rather than research & fund DRM that truly works without hindering the end-user (if there is such a thing) they want government to enforce outdated laws and methods.


13 posted on 04/15/2010 9:41:49 AM PDT by relictele
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To: RockyMtnMan
So when I rip my CD so I can play it on my MP3 player how are they going to know if it’s an illegal copy?

According to the RIAA, it *IS* an illegal copy.

14 posted on 04/15/2010 9:41:52 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: bigbob

>>But I don’t think they have the smarts to stay a jump ahead of the inevitable countermeasures. This will just make it easier for them to catch those who don’t know better.
**

Correct. For example, if you download from the BT networks, a great number of uploaders mask the file by compressing it by winrar. The best ones I’ve seen were when bootleg sofrwares were uploaded, there were applications imbedded which calculate the correct code as part of the file.

Heck, mininova was shut down but Pirate Bay still operates comes down also to effective lawyers.


15 posted on 04/15/2010 9:42:22 AM PDT by max americana
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To: ShadowAce

A 12-year-old computer geek would have that disabled in 12 minutes — or less.


16 posted on 04/15/2010 9:53:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ShadowAce
spyware on your computer that detects and deletes infringing materials

Oh, yeah, no potential for fiasco's there. Like when Windows DRM won't let you play content you created yourself because it lacks the DRM tags telling Windows it's OK. Now imagine that if instead of just not letting you use content YOU OWN, it deleted it instead!!

mandatory censorware on all Internet connections to interdict transfers of infringing material

Another fiasco in waiting. How are they going to know? Filenames? So now the onus is going to be on US to research every name of every content file on the net to make sure we don't use one of "their" names?? So does it then follow that one can "own" a filename (since no one else can feasibly use the same name)?

17 posted on 04/15/2010 9:54:36 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ShadowAce

And who the fook do they think is going to pay for the ram bytes and CPU cycles to run this shiite? Cause it ain’t gonna be mine! Those are MY property! I paid for them, and I sure as HELL didn’t do so with the intention of using them to protect someone else from something I was never doing to them in the first place!


18 posted on 04/15/2010 9:57:48 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rabscuttle385
According to the RIAA, it *IS* an illegal copy.

That's OK. According to me, the RIAA is illegal.

19 posted on 04/15/2010 9:59:01 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ShadowAce

Here is a list of RIAA members, if you buy ANY of thier products then YOU are supporting thehttp://www.riaa.com/aboutus.php?content_selector=aboutus_membersm:


20 posted on 04/15/2010 10:22:11 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: ShadowAce
I believe Metallica has the right to charge whatever they wish for their music. I believe the public has the right to pay, or not pay for that music.

I also believe those who steal the intellectual property of another person should be tried and imprisoned for their crime.

However, what the RIAA is asking for here is ridiculous.

21 posted on 04/15/2010 10:35:46 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: rabscuttle385; RockyMtnMan
So when I rip my CD so I can play it on my MP3 player how are they going to know if it’s an illegal copy?
According to the RIAA, it *IS* an illegal copy.


so is copying it from your computer to an mp3 player.
22 posted on 04/15/2010 10:52:35 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: ShadowAce
What a laugh;

* spyware on your computer that detects and deletes infringing materials;
Let them just try. I doubt their delivery protocol could get past my defenses.

* mandatory censorware on all Internet connections to interdict transfers of infringing material;
Again, let them try. They'll fail.

* border searches of personal media players, laptops and thumb-drives;
A decent ftp location would circumvent this intrusion.

* international bullying to force other countries to implement the same policies;
Yeah...that'll work great. I'm sure other countries will fall right in line because...We Are The Mighty RIAA!

* and free copyright enforcement provided by Fed cops and agencies (including the Department of Homeland Security!).
And how much protected content is currently sitting on all the MP3 players and laptops owned by these Fed and DHS agents? It is to laugh.

23 posted on 04/15/2010 10:52:53 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Mariner
However, what the RIAA is asking for here is ridiculous.

Especially since it's not theft in the first place.

24 posted on 04/15/2010 10:54:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Making assumptions with this administration is risky.


25 posted on 04/15/2010 10:55:10 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: Still Thinking
And who the fook do they think is going to pay for the ram bytes and CPU cycles to run this shiite?

It won't be mine. Knowing the capability and "know-how" of the RIAA, they'll limit their pet malware to run only on Windows machines.

I'll be fine.

26 posted on 04/15/2010 10:55:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
A decent ftp location would circumvent this intrusion.

As would a manual mount of a TrueCrypt volume.

27 posted on 04/15/2010 10:56:30 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Hey, hold my mouse and watch this!

“If so much as one CPU cycle or one byte of RAM belonging to me is used by their spyware, I’ll hunt them down and sue them under the DMCA for circumventing my non-spyware technology (which consists of this post)!”

See, we’re all in the RIAA now!


28 posted on 04/15/2010 10:58:02 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Copyright is a civil matter, not a criminal matter

Copyright infringement can indeed be a criminal offense, punishable by not more than five years imprisonment for a first-time offender.

29 posted on 04/15/2010 11:09:55 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: ShadowAce
As would a manual mount of a TrueCrypt volume.

Oh yeah! I hadn't thought of that. I love TrueCrypt. Gives me a real warm and fuzzy feeling. So easy to use too.

30 posted on 04/15/2010 11:11:04 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: absolootezer0

Per the RIAA website:

http://riaa.org/physicalpiracy.php?content_selector=piracy_online_the_law

You can RIP a CD for your own personal use so long as you don’t give it to anyone.


31 posted on 04/15/2010 11:44:53 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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read later


32 posted on 04/15/2010 12:00:09 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: RockyMtnMan
So when I rip my CD so I can play it on my MP3 player how are they going to know if it’s an illegal copy? Do they expect that all MP3 players will play only online purchased content?

They don't care. If what you're playing is not in the same format and media that you purchased you are hereby deemed to be a criminal.

33 posted on 04/15/2010 2:53:16 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Same here. I’m ahead of the game and technology. Just before mininova shut down, I pretty much have every circumventing app known to bittorrent..


34 posted on 04/15/2010 5:24:31 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
What a laugh;

* spyware on your computer that detects and deletes infringing materials;
Let them just try. I doubt their delivery protocol could get past my defenses.

Not if they work out a deal, financial or otherwise with Microsoft to implement it into current and furture versions of Windows.  Microsoft has already shown they're capable of quietly inserting their own anti-piracy software, WGA, into Windows updates.  Windows users raged and roared about stolen CPU cycles then too.  And then they shut up and took it. 

35 posted on 04/15/2010 5:38:55 PM PDT by MichiganMan (Oprah: Commercial Beef Agriculture=Bad, Commercial Chicken Agriculture=Good...Wait, WTF???)
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To: MichiganMan
Not if they work out a deal, financial or otherwise with Microsoft to implement it into current and future versions of Windows.

Let 'em waste their time and money. Fine with me.


36 posted on 04/15/2010 7:15:17 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: ken in texas

According to their website, what it boils down to, so long as no money is made or lost on their copyright you are in the clear. Copying from your purchased CD to play on your player is ok with them. That is their language and frankly I agree with that logic. They recorded the material and spent the money on discovery and distribution so they deserve the profits.

Now I’m not justifying their percentage of profits on their earnings but that’s up to the artist’s to negotiate with the recording company.


37 posted on 04/15/2010 8:05:01 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Not if they work out a deal, financial or otherwise with Microsoft to implement it into current and future versions of Windows.

Let 'em waste their time and money. Fine with me.

And don't think I didn't notice, and appreciate, your taking the time to correct my typo.  Attention to detail speaks better of you than it does of me.  

In any event it won't be a waste of money for them, even if it has no effect on you, me and ShadowAce. They'll reap their windfall from Sony, or Time Warner, or whomever in exclusive contracts, if not straight up payments to include the spyware in Windows ala WGA, and meanwhile 90+% of users will keep paying for Windows licenses and run whatever monitoring software MS tells them to run like good little subjects.

Its a win win for Microsoft if the RIAA chooses to go that route and MS agrees. 

 

38 posted on 04/15/2010 8:40:34 PM PDT by MichiganMan (Oprah: Commercial Beef Agriculture=Bad, Commercial Chicken Agriculture=Good...Wait, WTF???)
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To: MichiganMan
And don't think I didn't notice,

"One is glad to be of service."


39 posted on 04/16/2010 8:11:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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