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Dad who saved daughter by stabbing mastiff said mauling was 'like a horror film'
mirror ^ | 25/03/2010 | Josh Layton

Posted on 04/17/2010 10:38:08 AM PDT by JoeProBono

The dad who stabbed his dog to death after it savaged his two-year-old daughter said yesterday it was like a scene from a horror film.

Gereth Sim, 31, is haunted by the moment the French bullmastiff, named Trigger, sank its teeth into little Taylor's face.

He said: "I had turned away for two seconds and heard a growl. The next thing the dog had Taylor on the floor and was biting her face.

"I punched him until he let her go, then stabbed him with a kitchen knife. Taylor's face was covered in blood. It was like a horror film.

"Every time I close my eyes, I can still see it."

Taylor, of Eltham, South East London, was still critically ill in hospital last night after emergency surgery.

She needed skin grafts after horrific injuries to her jaw, nose and mouth.

Her mum Charlene, 23, said: "The operation was a success. We're just praying she will pull through."


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: canines; chet99; defenseofothers; dog; dogs; jpb; mastiff; rdo; whenanimalsattack
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French Bullmastiff.


1 posted on 04/17/2010 10:38:09 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Are these breeds known to be vicious? That poor little girl!


2 posted on 04/17/2010 10:43:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: JoeProBono

French Bullmastiff

3 posted on 04/17/2010 10:44:01 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

Wot - not a pitbull?


4 posted on 04/17/2010 10:46:23 AM PDT by Slinky911
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

English Mastiffs aren’t. They sleep 23 1/2 hours/day.

Seems the French are more high-strung.


5 posted on 04/17/2010 10:47:55 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Slinky911

Don’t get too excited..it’s not Chet’s thread.

A big Mastiff comes after you and you better be prepared to fight...they are damn big.

not usually hyper like some dogs but their size in potent

probably the closest link to the old Molassers of ancient times

I thought a Bull Mastiff was a Bull Mastiff and the French version was the Dogue du Bordeaux like in the Tom Hanks film from the late 80s/early90s

any Mastiff folks here


6 posted on 04/17/2010 10:52:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
No, not really, but it's a mix. A cross between a French mastiff and a Bull mastiff. However, neither of those breeds are known to be really vicious, but their not as nice as an English mastiff.
7 posted on 04/17/2010 10:54:14 AM PDT by kara37
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

“French Mastiff is also known as the Dogue de Bordeaux. they’re miscellaneous dogs and can be used for anything (ie. working, herding, companion, guarding, sporting, non-sporting, etc. etc). either gender can be up to 27 inches at the withers and can weigh up to 100 lbs. although the Dogue de Bordeaux has a forbidding look, the dogs desire for attention and affection is intense! it’s somewhat leery of strangers and may be aggressive toward strange dogs, but it gets along well with children and makes a loving family pet with a calm, tranquil disposition. the Dogue de Bordeaux’s origin is not known, but it’s likely that the Mastiff and Bulldog each played a part in its development. the breed was once used as a fighting dog, challenging bulls, bears and other dogs. the Dogue is powerful and massive, but surprisingly athletic and quick. a large, expressive head characterizes this breed, and as with most dogs that were once bred for fighting, the Dogue de Bordeaux has a powerful jaw. this breed is built low to the ground, but is well balanced.”


8 posted on 04/17/2010 10:54:37 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: txhurl

“They sleep 23 1/2 hours/day.”

Wait...that’s a cat!


9 posted on 04/17/2010 10:55:41 AM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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To: txhurl
"Seems the French are more high-strung."

It's the natural byproduct of eating snails and infrequent bathing.

10 posted on 04/17/2010 10:56:24 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: wardaddy

What is the difference between a bull mastiff, an english mastiff and a french mastiff.?
March 30th, 2010 |

Remember that there will be some variation in the description of a Mastiff, but all are similar in size and shape. There is no mistaking Mastiffs as a large breed dog that weighs between 120-200 pounds. Although the hair color and length will change depending on the type of Mastiff, almost all are shorthaired and are available in colors ranging from brown, red, brindle to black. The muzzle will almost always be short, wide and black in color, framed with short, floppy ears and a long, thin tail.

There are many different varieties of the Mastiff. Many were originally different breeds of dog that were at one point crossed to create different versions of the Mastiff. These varieties include the English, Bull, Neapolitan, French and Tibetan, with the most popular varieties being Bull and English. The Bull is especially predominant throughout North America.

The largest of the breed is the English version, sometimes weighing over 200 pounds. The only major difference between the Bull and English Mastiff is that the English will look considerably stockier and may be upwards of 30 inches tall, while the Bull is usually no taller than 27 inches. There is debate over which of the two is the original Mastiff, but most breeders will consider the English Mastiff the original breed. Another major difference between the English and Bull is that the Bull Mastiff has an extremely powerful head that is wide and a more sleek and muscular body.

Neapolitan Mastiff dogs are wrinklier, with the entire body full of wrinkles, including the muzzle, the neck, chest, and through the legs and underbelly. Keep in mind that while this type of Mastiff might look significantly smaller than the Bull or English, the weight is simply distributed different, as the Neapolitan is significantly shorter than the Bull or English.

The French Mastiff, also known as the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Bordeaux Bulldog by the French, will only weigh around 140 pounds and will be significantly shorter and stockier. The French looks significantly different because of a much wider head that may resemble a mixture of a Mastiff and a Rottweiler, at least in width. As well, the French muzzle may be a solid red, as most French Mastiffs are a solid red color, making the French red from head to toe.

You may not immediately recognize the Tibetan Mastiff as fitting with the breed, because it looks very different from the others. Instead of a short coat, it has a medium to long double coat of fur that is available in a variety of different colors, but not usually singular in color. This breed also has a longer muzzle that is more rounded and narrow than the other Mastiffs”


11 posted on 04/17/2010 10:58:44 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Rotflmfao!


12 posted on 04/17/2010 11:00:34 AM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Chet 99
English Bullmastiff


13 posted on 04/17/2010 11:07:58 AM PDT by Slinky911
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
folks like Chet have done their job...

i’m not trying to be picking on you but your first comment are these “breeds known to be vicious?”

most vicious breeds I know of are Chihuahuas and Mini-Pins

Mastiffs are usually lazy slobberers...like St Bernards or Newfies with less hair and a bit more guard instinct

what is considered vicious today centers around two things...size obviously but some big dogs are pretty harmless baring the most extreme provocation and what the dog was bred for which if it includes ratting does appear to at least make them more dog aggressive

two man human killers are Rotts and Pits in the order...and then it goes down the line....reason those two head up the list is simple... their numbers are great and they are BIG enough to kill people....the aforementioned Chihuahuas and Mini-Pins are not big enough...thankfully

after Rotts and Pits come I think Shepherds, Mastiffs and all their cousins and then mixed breed dogs and mongrels all the way down to a Yorkie who killed a newborn

the biggest factor is sheer numbers...when I was a kid it was Shepherd (RinTinTin) then Dobies and the Rotts who have held that dubious title since (I have owned two)...and of which is culture and Hollywood drive and in the case of Pits...bad culture...frequently the Drooges of our society...urban black thugs, latino gangs and redneck pot growing dog-cock fighters...(I know the latter personally...I loathe them and they know it)

In deference to Chet and his posse whom I disagree with on their fixation with Pits....the Pits and their various bulldog cousins (I own one)...Americans, Alpahahas, Ole English Bulldogge, big Staffies etc are more dog aggressive...no question of that..an uncut male of those breeds should not be unsupervised around lapdogs

and no dog of any breed unsupervised around infants or toddlers

our cats slept with our infants but I would not allow that with our American bulldog now or my Rotts or Dobies in the past...they are still wild animals possibly...you just never know...why take the chance btw....socialize, socialize, socialize.....our big bulldog is always with us... he really needs no fence when we are in the back pasture...he just stays underfoot...they are like that a hound would run off

14 posted on 04/17/2010 11:10:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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To: JoeProBono

First they outlawed guns
then they outlawed knives
then they outlawed certain dog breeds

All they have left for self defense is to secretly mix in dangerous dog bloodlines into other breeds that arent’ illegal. French mastif,staffordshire, etc.

Since the “dangerous” breeds are not outlawed in ireland, there’s an unending supply of fighting/attack dogs to mix in with other more docile breeds. And now that this secretive mixing has begun, it is going to be impossible to identify a probable dangerous dog by appearance alone.

Unintended consequences.

Muggers in england use dogs as their intimidation weapons in place of knives nowdays. And the populace has responded by buying “tough” dogs of their own to counter the muggers...since no handheld weapons of any kind are allowed in the hands of private citizens. Period. NO exceptions.

All this dog problem in england could be eliminated almost overnight if they would simply allow concealed carry permits to their upstanding citizens. people would lose this silly obsession with protection dogs almost immediately. They wouldn’t even have to abolish their ban on handguns. Just start issuing carry permits for tazers. Private ownership of tazers isn’t even allowed in england.

Think about what these idiots across the pond have accomplished. Their idiotic laws have created this problem. What do you consider more dangerous? A knife, or a psychotic dog that can rip your arm off? And now that the black market has started mixing their attack dogs into the docile breeds to circumvent the law, you never know when a beagle or a schnauzer is going to rip your kids face off.

this is a 6 part series:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6jIJz93J28


15 posted on 04/17/2010 11:12:18 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Slinky911
proven photoshopped but funny here is a real pic from my own photobucket

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16 posted on 04/17/2010 11:14:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

NO! I am a bullmastiff owner and they are known to be very gentle and docile. They are prized for their protectivness of their owner and their owner’s property. I have read many accounts of bullies putting themselves between owner and threat. Just like any breed, there can be vicious dogs. My uncle had a Great Pyramese put down a year ago for biting a neighbor kid. He never showed any agression before that.
Our Sampson was as sweet as can be with our son. The only thing we ever worried about was that Sampson did not know his size. He thought he was a lap dog. A 135 pound lap dog.


17 posted on 04/17/2010 11:15:08 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Slinky911

I think that’s a Neopolitan Mastiff.


18 posted on 04/17/2010 11:16:21 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: JoeProBono

Good and brave dad.


19 posted on 04/17/2010 11:18:30 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Slinky911
world's largest and likely toughest dog....Caucasian(of course) Mountain Dog (with Laura Ingram..lol)..very very Molasser


20 posted on 04/17/2010 11:19:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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