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Is it possible to love an animal?
4/17/2010 | Krankor

Posted on 04/17/2010 9:39:19 PM PDT by Krankor

Is it possible to actually "love" an animal- like a cat or dog? Any Freepers love their pet? How about those with non-traditional pets? Anyone love their cow, horse, snake or pig?


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To: Earthdweller

And I guess that brings us to the next question. Will we see them again in Heaven?

There is a book on the subject called “Cold Noses At The Pearly Gates: A Book of Hope for Those Who Have Lost Pets”.

It is a comforting book and the author makes some good debate arguments that our pets can join us in Heaven if that is what our heart of hearts desires. Afterall God made them the first time, and its not to much for him to do it again.


51 posted on 04/17/2010 10:19:09 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: politicalamity
Here's he is!

Doesn't he look just as innocent as a babe?

52 posted on 04/17/2010 10:22:23 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: NavyCanDo
"...author makes some good debate arguments that our pets can join us in Heaven if that is what our heart of hearts desires."

You mean we get to pick the ones we want with us in Heaven? Wow...that's a lot of power. Sure helps with the worrying about whether the ones we ate will be whispering in God's ear.

53 posted on 04/17/2010 10:25:37 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: LongElegantLegs

he is, what a sweetie! I am a sucker for brindles too.


54 posted on 04/17/2010 10:33:02 PM PDT by politicalamity
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To: BCR #226

What a pair! They look like Buttons and Mindy together.

I was just curious when you said your dogs were family, I didn’t mean to come off rudely. I hear a lot of people say they love their pets like their children, and I just can’t say that about myself; I wouldn’t put my family’s life or well being at risk for the dogs.


55 posted on 04/17/2010 10:33:13 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Domandred

I understand that any time you go hunting for chukar AFTER the first time, it’s for revenge.


56 posted on 04/17/2010 10:33:59 PM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: LongElegantLegs
No sweat, I took it the wrong way as well. My apologies. We rescued Max when our daughter was a year and a half old. He took to her immediately and to say he is serious about adoring her is an understatement. They'll cuddle a lot on the couch and if he thinks she's in danger, he can make Cujo look like a fluffy stuffed toy. Here's another one for ya...

Max loves cuddling

57 posted on 04/17/2010 10:37:50 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

That pic is one of the neatest I have ever seen. It’s wallpaper quality. I can’t wait to show my wife.


58 posted on 04/17/2010 10:38:03 PM PDT by Quigley
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To: Krankor

Define love.


59 posted on 04/17/2010 10:38:46 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Quigley

Thanks. I hope she likes it. I want to find the one of the two of them cuddled up asleep on the bed. I don’t know where I saved it but my daughter has her head on his side and he’s curled around her... it’s a great pic.


60 posted on 04/17/2010 10:42:33 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Krankor
My daughter..."If I had a million dollars, I would have a million animals".
61 posted on 04/17/2010 10:43:40 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: Krankor
Yep
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62 posted on 04/17/2010 10:44:03 PM PDT by politicalamity
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To: Krankor

I love my dogs and my horse. The emotion I feel for them is like a dilute version of what I feel for my children. When an animal I own dies, I am very sad for a long time though my grief is not anywhere near as agonizing or prolonged as it would be if a human died. I would not deliberately die for my animals, but I have risked myself for them. I make many sacrifices for them and go to enormous trouble and expense for them—not to spoil them, but to do what is ethical for their care.


63 posted on 04/17/2010 10:46:15 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: politicalamity

Love is blind.


64 posted on 04/17/2010 10:50:52 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: LongElegantLegs

Looks schizoid and dangerous.


65 posted on 04/17/2010 10:52:38 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: BCR #226

Gorgeous, both of them!


66 posted on 04/17/2010 10:53:12 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: Age of Reason

Probably because he is...schizoid, anyway. He’s hell on wheels, but I wuv his widdle face.


67 posted on 04/17/2010 10:54:09 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Krankor

I love my dog. I do not love him anywhere near as much as I love my family, though.


68 posted on 04/17/2010 10:55:34 PM PDT by cookiedough
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To: ottbmare
Here's our other pup.... Sasha, the killer of squirrels...

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69 posted on 04/17/2010 10:57:02 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Age of Reason

Cheerios a little pissy this morning?


70 posted on 04/17/2010 10:59:37 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Krankor
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This dog thinks she's attached to my hip. She follows me from room to room. She loves me, that's for sure. When I wake up in the morning and she hears me stir, I hear her tail wagging and thumping on the floor. No doubt about it, she's my best friend.

When she blew her knee out in a gopher hole while chasing frisbee I paid about a grand to have it screwed back together. When she did the same thing to the other knee a year later I didn't give it a second thought. Another grand. Money-wise I bet she's cost me 10k over her life, and I'd do it all again without the slightest hesitation. I'll never know a more faithful friend.

That being said, when I'm out in the wilderness, her job is to get eaten by the bear while I get away. :) She knows it... I know it... and we're OK with that. I love having her as my dog. But I'll still reserve the words "I love you" for my human family... even though I do love her. I love her, but she's a dog. That's the way the universe works.

71 posted on 04/17/2010 11:05:51 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: dagogo redux

Dogs seem to love US, so it’s not crazy that we would love THEM. Cats I’m not too sure about. Mine sure “loved” me whenever I made a turkey sandwich.


72 posted on 04/17/2010 11:06:00 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: BCR #226

I love the bond between kids and their dogs; I compare my relationship to my dogs now with the one I had with my childhood pup, and I miss the purity of it.


73 posted on 04/17/2010 11:10:42 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

It’s funny you mention that. I was blessed to have been in a home with a dog from very early on. It seemed we always had dogs big and small... LOL.

I don’t think I’ll ever be able to live without a dog around. In a way, it’s a connection with my memories. We’re kind of adopting another dog here soon. He’s a King Shepherd and he’s as fanatical about my daughter as Max is... he’s just twice the weight of Max. LOL.

I’m the luckiest person on the planet... my wife really puts up with me on stuff like this.


74 posted on 04/17/2010 11:15:22 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Krankor

It depends on one’s understanding of the word “love”. If by love you mean “affection”, then a resounding “yes”. But if one understands the true nature of love, that it is an action and not a feeling, then the question becomes more complicated.

It is quite possible to act lovingly towards a pet, to take good care of a pet the way one loves a garden and takes care of it, or loves a firearm and keeps it clean and oiled. But if the discussion is about the true meaning of love, then no, one cannot love an animal.

True love entails extending one’s ego boundaries in an effort to affect spiritual growth in one’s self or another. Animals are incapable of spiritual growth, and are therefore incapable of giving or receiving true love. They can certainly exhibit affection and loyalty, but that is not the same thing as love.

What most people feel towards their pets is affection. To equate a pet to a human being, let alone a child, is to engage in infantile anthropomorphistic fantasy.

I understand all of this, and yet I have still felt grief and shed tears over the loss of a beloved dog.


75 posted on 04/17/2010 11:18:21 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: historyrepeatz

Me too. I love my dogs so much. My mother never allowed us to have pets, she’d say, “WAIT UNTIL YOU GET MARRIED!” She was wise and knew she’d be the one taking care of them! I got my first dog at the age of 40. And soon after my second dog. I cannot imagine my life without them, I love them so much. But my Lilly is getting older and I’m beginning to think about the inevitable and it makes me so so sad.


76 posted on 04/17/2010 11:18:52 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Krankor
Here are our two standard poodles, Ben (in front) & Bibi:

And this about our love for an animal: TRIBUTE TO BEN

77 posted on 04/17/2010 11:22:35 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: BCR #226

Sounds like the making of a sled team!


78 posted on 04/17/2010 11:27:37 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: bunkerhill7

I sleep with my chihuahua, Fidel.


79 posted on 04/17/2010 11:29:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Big Horn

Massive tears on the death of any of my pets. They are loved ones.


80 posted on 04/17/2010 11:30:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Earthdweller
It's likely directly related to the need the animal has to be near us that draws us to them. It's rather ego driven, I suspect.a

Perhaps in some cases. However, a lot of altruism and unmet ego satisfactions must enter into loving many animals.

I have a wonderful dog whom I cherish and love. I also have another one who is pathetic and a real pain in the neck, but I love her nonetheless (though nowhere near as much as I love my main dog). And my horse can do nothing in the way of gratifying my ego, as she definitely doesn't love me, alone among all the horses I've had. But nonetheless I love her with the altruistic love of a mother, I pity her, and I do my best for her in all ways. I content myself with small gestures of concern on her part but she does not feed my ego with doglike behavior.

81 posted on 04/17/2010 11:35:33 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: Krankor

I love cows...Especially the tenderloin portion...


82 posted on 04/17/2010 11:47:35 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Krankor; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
Yes.


83 posted on 04/17/2010 11:48:18 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (FUBO! FUNP! FUHR! FUBS!)
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To: NavyCanDo

I know you will see your dog again. I was very lucky not to have to wait. It changed my life and my husband’s. If I explain it, you wouldn’t believe it - just as I wouldn’t have believed it a few years ago.


84 posted on 04/17/2010 11:50:08 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Krankor

I love a dog. He does nothing for political reasons.

Will Rogers


85 posted on 04/17/2010 11:57:22 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: politicalamity; Age of Reason

I think Age of Reason mistook the boxers for pitbulls, and wanted to get his licks in...Unless you think boxers are unstoppable killing machines too, AoR?


86 posted on 04/17/2010 11:59:15 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Krankor



Naaaaaa......don't love it at all. Sheesh.
87 posted on 04/18/2010 12:01:57 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Yep, Boxers are often mistook for pitbulls. Especially my Diego pictured. I was just going to ignore him.


88 posted on 04/18/2010 12:29:03 AM PDT by politicalamity
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To: politicalamity

You’re a more tolerant person than I am!


89 posted on 04/18/2010 12:40:51 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: kbennkc

That’s not love, the guy had no prior relationship with the horse. It was merely a “one night stand”...duh...


90 posted on 04/18/2010 12:45:00 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Salamander; Slings and Arrows; Markos33; JoeProBono; humblegunner; Eaker; kanawa; ...
Jessica, the pet Hippo who sleeps with the family dogs:





Just waiting for that fateful moment when Jessica "snaps" and another tragedy occurs for the want of species specific legislation.

91 posted on 04/18/2010 12:52:08 AM PDT by shibumi (FReepMail me to get on the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: shibumi

Purina Hippo Chow?


92 posted on 04/18/2010 1:23:53 AM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Allegra

93 posted on 04/18/2010 1:33:38 AM PDT by shibumi (FReepMail me to get on the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: Blogger

All you said plus how hard you cry when you have to put one down.......and how they are missed...If someone started to abuse my dog, I would sure as hell fight for her.


94 posted on 04/18/2010 2:04:27 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: LongElegantLegs

I wasn’t “allowed”, our Irish Setter got out and it was my job to find her...Found her sitting in the middle of a quite busy street with both lanes of traffic stopped and she was shaking like a leaf...If I had to go get her and dodge traffic I would have...(even tho she did nip me a couple of times in the past. Was 12 at the time..That area in detroit is now expressway I-75 Now a days no one would stop, just run her over...


95 posted on 04/18/2010 2:16:05 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Lurker

Amen..........


96 posted on 04/18/2010 2:17:13 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Jay Howard Smith
I have this weird idea that no one will probably agree with..I found out when I had 5 rug rats and 1 sent one for a couple of days with grandma and grandma, even thou I still had 4 at home, the house felt empty...

I figured that when one person leaves the house their spirit also goes with them, the house if filled up with the spirits of all living in that house and we don't realize the spirit is there along with the physical person (or dog)

When Our animal is gone, the house has an spirit gone that we are use to having in the house...Thats the way even with a large family when one if off visiting...

We can somehow feel the spirit that lived there and is now gone

Does this make sense to anyone except me?

97 posted on 04/18/2010 2:32:08 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Jay Howard Smith
I have this weird idea that no one will probably agree with..I found out when I had 5 rug rats and 1 sent one for a couple of days with grandma and grandma, even thou I still had 4 at home, the house felt empty...

I figured that when one person leaves the house their spirit also goes with them, the house if filled up with the spirits of all living in that house and we don't realize the spirit is there along with the physical person (or dog)

When Our animal is gone, the house has an spirit gone that we are use to having in the house...Thats the way even with a large family when one if off visiting...

We can somehow feel the spirit that lived there and is now gone

Does this make sense to anyone except me?

98 posted on 04/18/2010 2:40:08 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: jessduntno

Been grieving 25 years for one very special Dobermann...and I always will until I die.


99 posted on 04/18/2010 2:58:46 AM PDT by Salamander (Peter Steele of Type O Negative......1/4/1961-4/14/2010...RIP, Green Man....)
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To: BCR #226

Ditto.


100 posted on 04/18/2010 2:59:12 AM PDT by Salamander (Peter Steele of Type O Negative......1/4/1961-4/14/2010...RIP, Green Man....)
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