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Just a message for the Anti-Palin crowd

Posted on 04/21/2010 9:12:01 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

To those of you who go into every Sarah Palin thread with your anti-Palin talking points and repeating everything you hear on ABC, NBC or CBS.

I have a question for you personally. This is a personal question.

What are you doing to further our cause in a time of grave national and international crisis ?

Have you traveled to dozens of states in the last few months ? (Sarah Palin has)

also,

How is the view from the peanut gallery ?

and

How is the breakfast with your Democratic friends down at the local Holiday Inn ?

Please get a life. You are doing nothing to further our cause. Do some soul searching, it must seem like a worthless existance spending your time on the net attacking one person with such vigor and such venom. I hope for a big purge and I hope it is soon.


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To: Melas

“Win any way you can.”—Leo Durocher


451 posted on 04/26/2010 10:43:53 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

“Nobody can acquire honor by doing what is wrong.”—Thomas Jefferson.


452 posted on 04/26/2010 10:50:14 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

“Nice guys finish last.”—Leo Durocher

“You show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser.”—”Chief” Wallace Newman


453 posted on 04/26/2010 11:23:30 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Melas

“Winning isn’t everything—it’s the only thing.”—John Wayne


454 posted on 04/26/2010 11:26:12 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

You not only lose because Thomas Jefferson trumps John Wayne, but because you falsely attributed the quote to Wayne. “Winning is everything, it’s the only thing.” doesn’t belong to Wayne, and it doesn’t belong to Vince Lombardi although many mistakenly believe it does. It’s Henry Russel Sanders from UCLA who coined it.


455 posted on 04/26/2010 11:39:49 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

I like to think of “winning isn’t everything...” as a John Wayne quote—from “Trouble Along the Way” (1953). Red Sanders may have said it first, but I would never quote a UCLA ‘Ruin.


456 posted on 04/26/2010 11:52:19 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill; se_ohio_young_conservative; Melas
Samsmom gives some food for thought in a vintage post, available here.
457 posted on 04/26/2010 11:58:57 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Melas; se_ohio_young_conservative
Make no mistake Jr., if you want to use Alinsky tactics on anyone, then you most certainly are not one of us.

I'm afraid that it's par for the course for all too many of the Palinistas around here. :(

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458 posted on 04/26/2010 12:12:55 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: EveningStar

my post from another thread...

After November 2008, She lost control of the script, she lost control of her life, her destiny and her financial well being. They were trying to take her out. She was being reduced to a scandal ridden governor and fodder for sex crazed tabloids. They were trying to destroy her. They are still trying. But she now has control of her destiny.

I always wondered what would have been. I think millions of Americans have. If Lee Harvey Oswald would have missed and President Kennedy would have survived. That was different because they killed him. Although I fear there are leftists sick enough to go after Palin.

But I heard it said that when JFK was shot he lost his chance to define himself in the history books. He lost his pen. And thousands of others grabbed their own pens and made millions off of his demise.

Palin dodged a different kind of bullet. Many people here on Free Republic and in this country don’t understand that. I don’t think she minds going down, she has more courage than most people believe. But she doesn’t want to go down in vain for nothing. So she followed an Esther reasoning “If I perish, I perish”. She knows there is danger. She is walking through the fire and carried the burden with uncommon zeal. But she really loves America.

Many of us are willing to join her and fight with her every single step of the way. In so many ways 2012 feels like an impossible dream. As does the future of our country sometimes. But we have to do this one day at a time, one week at a time, one month at a time. We have to get through the 2010 election first.


459 posted on 04/26/2010 12:43:08 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; EveningStar

Portraying Palin supporters as a lynch mob sounds like something Alinsky would have recommended.

“Nobody can acquire honor by doing what is wrong.”—Thomas Jefferson.


460 posted on 04/26/2010 2:38:11 PM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Taft in '52; se_ohio_young_conservative
Portraying Palin supporters as a lynch mob sounds like something Alinsky would have recommended.

I don't think all or even most Palin supporters are like that. But many of the most ardent ones spook me a bit.

461 posted on 04/26/2010 3:33:23 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
She is walking through the fire and carried the burden with uncommon zeal.

She's not walking through the fire now. She's making good money from different sources (that's fine with me), and she's not even running for office.

462 posted on 04/26/2010 3:39:48 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: EveningStar
I don't think all or even most Palin supporters are like that. But many of the most ardent ones spook me a bit.

Thanks for the clarification. I've encountered a few of those spooky ones on this site.

463 posted on 04/26/2010 6:14:26 PM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: EveningStar

Do you have any idea what kind of attacks and pressure this woman has been under ?

She has heard the jokes too. She has heard the doubters too.
She hears it all.

Shes been through hell. shes ready

You don’t get it.


464 posted on 04/27/2010 9:48:08 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Bob J
BTW - Believing Palin is too much a “lightweight” for the job of Prez isn't an attack, it's an opinion based on her short and spotty political record, lack of knowledge in areas important to the presidency

With an attitude like that, I hope your happy with the alternative...I believe his name is Barack.


College - Quit four universities

Gee Bob, your such an expert on universities, and come off as a silver spooned snob, how did you pay for your schooling? She worked her way through. She doesn't really elaborate on finishing school in "Going Rogue", but she has a degree for her efforts. Without any experience in Alaska, your an expert on her, how?

Alaska Resources Board - Quit after 10 months

You probably didn't know the word VECO before Palin started uncovering the corruption - and you have no idea how corupt the system was before she blew a lot of redhot items out of the water Here is a FR link for you.

Don't know if you've read the book, "Going Rogue", but maybe you try from page 92 to 100. Oh that's right, you don't want to hear from her; nevermind.

Governor - Quit after 2 years

It's a long, tiring argument, but for you Bob, shall run it one more time...

Straight from C4P... Let’s clear something up right now.

It’s been suggested that Gov. Palin “chose” to use her personal counsel to defend herself instead of using the Attorney General or the Department of Law, and therefore it’s her own fault that she has accumulated over half a million dollars in legal debt.

That is complete balderdash.

The governor cannot use the AG to defend herself against ethics complaints. The AG is responsible for prosecuting violations of the law. But in the case of the governor and ethics complaints, the AG is removed from doing so by the law, and an independent counsel (or investigator) is contracted by the Personnel Board to act in place of the AG:

AS 39.52.310. Complaints.

(c) If a complaint alleges a violation of AS 39.52.110 - 39.52.190 by the governor, lieutenant governor, or the attorney general, the matter shall be referred to the personnel board....The personnel board shall retain independent counsel who shall act in the place of the attorney general under (d) - (i) of this section, AS 39.52.320 - 39.52.350, and 39.52.360(c) and (d). Notwithstanding AS 36.30.015 (d), the personnel board may contract for or hire independent counsel under this subsection without notifying or securing the approval of the Department of Law.

[emphasis added]

By definition, an ethics violation is elevating a personal interest above one’s state interest and duties. The government cannot defend a public official on an allegation that he/she violated state law in his/her personal capacity. In fact, it would probably be an ethics violation for the governor to use a state AG to defend her personal interests because that would constitute a misuse of state resources for personal gain. (However, that doesn’t preclude the possibility that the state could later indemnify a public official, if that is deemed lawful.)

So, yes, Gov. Palin must pay for her personal legal defense, and each allegation costs her money. The imbecilic ankle-biters smugly ask, “If she didn’t do anything wrong, why does she need legal counsel?”

End of C4P

Sarah explains the issue in "Going Rogue" on pages 363 to 378.

Your accusations hold as much water as saying -

"Hey Bob, Did you quit California?"

Or asking, "How's that wife beating going?"
465 posted on 04/27/2010 1:16:51 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: Bob J
Here you go Bob, You're all mouth -

Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:10:36 AM · 244 of 465

04/27/2010 1:16:51 PM PDT by Issaquahking

Bob J
BTW - Believing Palin is too much a “lightweight” for the job of Prez isn't an attack, it's an opinion based on her short and spotty political record, lack of knowledge in areas important to the presidency

With an attitude like that, I hope your happy with the alternative...I believe his name is Barack.


College - Quit four universities

Gee Bob, your such an expert on universities, and come off as a silver spooned snob, how did you pay for your schooling? She worked her way through. She doesn't really elaborate on finishing school in "Going Rogue", but she has a degree for her efforts. Without any experience in Alaska, your an expert on her, how?

Alaska Resources Board - Quit after 10 months

You probably didn't know the word VECO before Palin started uncovering the corruption - and you have no idea how corupt the system was before she blew a lot of redhot items out of the water Here is a FR link for you.

Don't know if you've read the book, "Going Rogue", but maybe you try from page 92 to 100. Oh that's right, you don't want to hear from her; nevermind.

Governor - Quit after 2 years

It's a long, tiring argument, but for you Bob, shall run it one more time...

Straight from C4P... Let’s clear something up right now.

It’s been suggested that Gov. Palin “chose” to use her personal counsel to defend herself instead of using the Attorney General or the Department of Law, and therefore it’s her own fault that she has accumulated over half a million dollars in legal debt.

That is complete balderdash.

The governor cannot use the AG to defend herself against ethics complaints. The AG is responsible for prosecuting violations of the law. But in the case of the governor and ethics complaints, the AG is removed from doing so by the law, and an independent counsel (or investigator) is contracted by the Personnel Board to act in place of the AG:

AS 39.52.310. Complaints.

(c) If a complaint alleges a violation of AS 39.52.110 - 39.52.190 by the governor, lieutenant governor, or the attorney general, the matter shall be referred to the personnel board....The personnel board shall retain independent counsel who shall act in the place of the attorney general under (d) - (i) of this section, AS 39.52.320 - 39.52.350, and 39.52.360(c) and (d). Notwithstanding AS 36.30.015 (d), the personnel board may contract for or hire independent counsel under this subsection without notifying or securing the approval of the Department of Law.

[emphasis added]

By definition, an ethics violation is elevating a personal interest above one’s state interest and duties. The government cannot defend a public official on an allegation that he/she violated state law in his/her personal capacity. In fact, it would probably be an ethics violation for the governor to use a state AG to defend her personal interests because that would constitute a misuse of state resources for personal gain. (However, that doesn’t preclude the possibility that the state could later indemnify a public official, if that is deemed lawful.)

So, yes, Gov. Palin must pay for her personal legal defense, and each allegation costs her money. The imbecilic ankle-biters smugly ask, “If she didn’t do anything wrong, why does she need legal counsel?”

End of C4P

Sarah explains the issue in "Going Rogue" on pages 363 to 378.

Your accusations hold as much water as saying -

"Hey Bob, Did you quit California?"

Or asking, "How's that wife beating going?"

466 posted on 04/30/2010 4:41:52 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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