Skip to comments.Just a message for the Anti-Palin crowd
Posted on 04/21/2010 9:12:01 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
To those of you who go into every Sarah Palin thread with your anti-Palin talking points and repeating everything you hear on ABC, NBC or CBS.
I have a question for you personally. This is a personal question.
What are you doing to further our cause in a time of grave national and international crisis ?
Have you traveled to dozens of states in the last few months ? (Sarah Palin has)
How is the view from the peanut gallery ?
How is the breakfast with your Democratic friends down at the local Holiday Inn ?
Please get a life. You are doing nothing to further our cause. Do some soul searching, it must seem like a worthless existance spending your time on the net attacking one person with such vigor and such venom. I hope for a big purge and I hope it is soon.
Hey. Nice to see you. You are one of the ones.
I remember you saying you didn’t think Sarah Palin was electable because someone in your family thought she was a “big phony”
they obviously believe the propaganda. and you let it sway you.
Most of these will be the Paulistas who hate the idea of a rejuvenated GOP because it spells trouble for Ron Paul of ever getting more than 2 or 3 % of any Primary vote. But you will also find scorched Earth Libertarians who see a RINO around every tree, and at least one die hard Hunter supporter that I know of.
>>You signed up 11/8/2002 just to post that?<<
Patience is a virtue.
Sarah Palins experience stacks up quite well historically, if anyone takes the time to compare it to previous Presidents.
Lincoln, Kennedy and Truman (aside from two months as FDRs VP) also had no executive experience, elective or appointive, when they became President.
Woodrow Wilsons only executive experience was two years as Governor of New Jersey, after which he became President.
Calvin Coolidge, in addition to being Harding VP for two years, was governor of Massachusetts for two years and mayor of a small town of 3000 (Northampton)for two years. (sound familiar?) In Reagans opinion, as well as Bob Novaks, Coolidge was the best President of the 20th Century (until the Gipper, of course).
Other Presidents,(Madison, John Quincy Adams, Buchanan Hoover) only had executive experience as appointed heads of cabinet agencies.
Ford had no real executive experience; He was VP under Nixon for less than a year.
That is a list of 10 Presidents, including some pretty good ones who had less than, or equivalent to, Sarah Palins executive experience. And I didnt even count the large number of Presidents (10) whose executive experience consisted solely of being generals in the army. (Only three of the ten were Commanders in Chief, which would at least somewhat approximate the Presidency).
If Palin is the candidate, she has my vote.
You are being snarky and I was being serious.
Strange. Your comment to me has nothing to do with my comment to you. I never suggested any of those things.
Palin has been tough (not playing some nice guy role), she certainly does NOT play patty cake, and there’s nothing wrong with speaking the truth about the bad situation we’re in and yet sending a positive message to dull the pain.
I am not anti-Palin, although the people she has backed of late give me cause for concern.
But I do have a question, because you keep repeating the phrase '...doing nothing to further our cause"
For clarity's sake 'our' who, and what cause would that be?
I want the best possible Conservative candidates in 2010, 2012, and afterwards, and if Sarah jumps the shark backing amnesty or cap and trade or somesuch, FRiend, she will not be in the running.
Then you should understand why getting control over the tone and rules of the debate is most important if Palin wants to win. Her first goal would be the Republican primary.
Anti Palin republicans have to be marginalized.
This may sound Alinsky. but it works.
ditto on Steele
what do I do?
shucks...gave probably mid 5 figures cumulatively to GOP last 5 cycles including off years
marched for Bush over and over here to counter moonbats and have the thread on FR
protested in heat summer here over Sundquist and his GOP attempt to force state income tax
went to all the anti0-amnesty rallies and donated
have been active in middle Tn races for GOP that should remain unnamed here....Ed Bryant lost...I'll give up that much
Paid 700 to see Sarah at Opryland
buy just about every book out there to support our people
raise my kids to be logical and make righteous decisions based on empirical observation and humanity and to be diligent
come from a father who was southern GOP since Ike..kind of rare..thought he also supported JO, Stennis, Sonny etc
Give to anti-abortion, veterans families groups both here and IDF
member all gun groups
support this joint probably as much as anyone but the most saintly and like all the lazy buttheads making this fundraiser crawl OUGHT TO!
is that enough for me to criticize Sarah if I disagree with her even if I do think she usually walks on water?
one word of advice:
DO NOT FALL FOR HARPIE LOGIC....the clique that brooks no dissent...it's was a disaster here last time around
It would appear that in your opinion, Sarah Palin is perfect. If not, when is it o.k. to point out her faults and have your concerns respected and discussed in a civil manner?
She is not perfect. It is ok to point out her faults. But that is not what I am upset about ..
im upset about those on our side who use Democratic attacks against her
It is simple.
Christians tend to love her (except for the Stepford Wives and the barefoot in the kitchen crowd)
Non Christians and or those who either love abortion or hate evangelicals dislike her.
BULLCRAP. One of my main objections to Palin is because I am a Christian:
She does not believe the Right to Life is a Constitutional issue. She believes the Right to Life belongs to the state.
On that single issue ALONE, she is not qualified to carry the banner for RTL, and thereby unelectable. Watch and see - She will split the SOCON vote, because half at the least will *not* back up on RTL.
They have to make their candidate look good somehow. They also like to name call (deranged comes to mind) which is comical coming from anti war, 9-11 truther, Ron Paul supporters or Romneycare supporters.
Don't worry, FR is just a small little corner of the nation and as places such as Searchlight have shown us, not really indicative of how the rest of the nation feels about Palin.
Small fish/small pond sort of thing.
wrong again... you do not seem capable of intelligent give and take... you skip out on logical discussion and go straight to emotionalism... while i do think that people will not vote for her in general, meaning those who are not very conservative (btw--i would vote for her if she were our nominee) i don't think she's ready to be president... but again, i do like her and where she stands... in your opinion, that constitutes attacking her... i don't believe i am attacking her simply because i don't believe she's ready to be president... just like i do not think liberals are right in calling me racist simply because i do not think Obama is a good president... you are doing the same thing they are... the only answer for you is that people have to support her now or they are attacking her... that's not being intellectually honest--which is what i said to you before...
according to him/her/whatever gender se young ohio conservative is, NEVER... this person is not capable of intelligent discussion, intellectual debate... this person uses the same tactics liberal use when they call someone a racist because he/she doesn't think Obama is a good president...
well, you consider me a troll--and this is maybe the third Palin thread i've participated on in a good year or so... and i don't attack her in anyway i can... i don't attack her--yet you think i'm "one of the ones." haha! and if she's the nominee in 2012, she has my vote--which i've told you twice now... i have to say, you give lots of material that i can share with my logic students... your posts are logic fallacy galore!
and yet you use Democratic tactics to attack those who honestly question her at all...
And you've been out of college for what? Two semesters?
Whose money are you using?
The money in my savings account.
You always bring common sense to the table.
I’ve never been a fan of putting all your eggs in one baasket. I love Palin but it will not be the end of conservatism if she doesn’t run or doesn’t win.
Palin is great but she is by no means the only conservative who can run an effective campaign.
I pray we all obey Reagan’s 11th commandment...especially when the Democrats will be in pure vitriolic form in 2012.
With Thune, Pence, Barbour, Sessions, McDonnell, Ryan and others out there I think we’ll be fine.
Oh, and by the way, Chunga, while we're on the topic of money, I noticed that your FReeper name isn't on any of the FReeper donor boards. Is that because you haven't put something in the pot or because you've chosen to remain anonymous all these years?
And in that spirit, I'd like to give the FReepathon a bump and head on over to put something in the pot for this quarter.
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Cowa Chunga, dewd! Surf’s up!!!
Hang ten! Or a $20 if you can afford it. ;^)
The point here is that the left is trying to divide us, using their divide and conquer tactics as usual. Why don’t we wise up and quit playing their game while they are laughing all the way to the bank.
Whether you support Palin or not, now is not the time to tear one another apart. I’m sure Palin feels that she must support McCain, and why should we throw her out for showing loyalty? I have no love for McCain, either, but in her shoes, I might find myself doing the same. Let’s be reasonable here.
In the meantime, instead of wrangling with each other over this candidate or that, why don’t we use the energy more effectively and look into some of the field of candidates and find out more about them? We could actually help each other sort out the good ones from the RINOs, the rhetoric from the truth. That is what we really need right now as we move into the primaries.
I agree with you. I don’t think Sarah Palin is Presidential. I like her, thinks she does a great job motivating the base, she would be a great RNC Chairperson, but President? No!
Personally, I am tired of soundbites and youtube clips getting people all riled up. That is how we ended up with Obama.
We have people on here screaming about Sarah, Paul Ryan, McCotter, Bachmann...anyone who gets face time. They all have a place and are needed, in fact it is probably more important to have the conservative voices in the Congress.....remember they write the laws.
Flame away at me but I stand by Duncan Hunter, if not him, someone as close to his ideology as possible.
Rabadash RAbs is busy making sure that Ron Paul (Or Chuck Baldwin) will get over 1% of the vote in 2012.
Without RABs efforts, true conservatives like Baldwin or Paul, who to seem believe US black ops caused the earthquake in Haiti, would hardly get noticed by conservatives. Lucky for us, he's unhinged enough to keep plugging away for them.
You base your opinions on Democratic propaganda. And that is the problem.
Have you studied Palin’s record ? She is the exact kind of person we need. She took on the establishment in Alaska and they ate her dust.
LOL. Is this thread intended to round them all up in one place?
Exactly when is she (SP) going to announce her candidacy for the presidency ? You do believe this country needs her as the next president, correct? How about making the case to her critics why this is critical for our nation?
How many Palin vanities/rants are you up to now? Start a blog already.
Have a nice day.
After what she went through in 2008 for us. A how disgusting that was. And how personally offensive. How unjust.
The only way I see revenge. And the only way I see to right a wrong is for her to succeed.
I believe we have a responsibility to make her our nominee in 2010. Thats the only way to correct the record.
Paul nut scumbag alert...
No posse ping needed, everybody knows lol
IF YOU DON’T DO WHAT I SAY, YOU’RE SUPPORTING THE SOCIALISTS (/rant)
I think Sarah Palin is way smarter than people give her credit for; probably far smarter than Obama, Clinton and Gore put together. I think she’s wonderfully bold. And I think she’s going to be a far tougher candidate in 2012 than any of the pollsters and talking heads suppose she might be.
I’d just like it if we actually found out her positions on issues before we coronate her the new queen. Everyone writes off her gushing, over-the-top praise of McCain as simply necessary politics. Well, first off, I don’t WANT another typical political gameplayer. And secondly, that’s a huge presumption on an awfully important issue. I’d like to hear her come out against McCain’s “pathway to citizenship”. (Sorry folks, simply saying she’s against “amnesty” doesn’t cut it, because McCain, Graham, Bush, Kennedy, Reid and everyone else involved with the McCain-Kennedy amnesty said they were against amnesties, but McCain Kennedy wasn’t really an amnesty.)
I’d like to hear her say she opposes the Wall Street bailout, the McCain healthcare plan, (ironically, Obama’s plan is closer to the one McCain campaigned on than the one Obama campaigned on), that she’d repeal McCain-Feingold, that she’d support official English and repeal Executive Order 13166 which mandates that everyone eventually adopt 130+ languages.
So far all I know about her on issues is she’s very pro-life. Which is paramount of importance to me.
None of this is to presume she’s BAD on any of these issues, or that anyone else is better. I just think it’s rather odd that no-one else seems to care about anything other than her personality.
Call for purges during a FReepathon is not particularly smart.
.”cant support Palin AND hope that J.D. wins.”
If you’re not a third grader...you can.
“it is hardly fair to assume that they are basing it on Democratic propaganda.”
That’s correct. Most of the possee Palin bashers base it on Ron Paul kookery and Third Part delusions. Some look to candidates that can max out at 2% of the vote.
” I was not happy one bit about Palin supporting ...McCain”
The reasons for her doing this are reasonable to anybody who can reason and have been explained ad nauseum.
“BULLCRAP. One of my main objections to Palin is because I am a Christian:”
95 pots for creativity.
Now, make something else up.
If she runs. I feel sorry for the SOB’s that have to run against her. By the time we are finished using Alinsky tactics on Romney, Paul and whoever. They will be afraid to look at her the wrong way during a debate. They will feel like creeps...
Looks like you answered my prior question on #64. I hadn’t gotten that far.
“according to him/her/whatever gender se young ohio conservative is, NEVER... this person is not capable of intelligent discussion, intellectual debate... this person uses the same tactics liberal use when they call someone a racist because he/she doesn’t think Obama is a good president... “
...and you just used the same liberal tactics you just decried.
“you give lots of material that i can share with ***my logic students***... your posts are logic fallacy galore!”
Appeal to authority?
Duncan Hunter is Presidential?...but Palin is not. Rich.
I supported him in a protest vote, since we had nothing but RINOs to vote for in McCain and Romney.
He is not a viable or credible candidate unless we are awarding something for 3% of the vote.
That comment makes me curious to see the list of politicians that you support because obviously you are in 100% agreement with everything they do and say.
My messiah is Enid Parker, an 87 year old widower and retiree in Nevins, Florida, who has three cats and smells of Ben Gay.
“Non Christians and or those who either love abortion or hate evangelicals dislike her.”
Thank you. You are now in contention for the FR “Dumbest Post of the Year”
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