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Saving Old Books to Save the Truth.

Posted on 04/26/2010 6:44:59 PM PDT by cradle of freedom

As the truth and history are being rewritten by the forces of politcal correctness, it would be a good idea for us to look for old books printed before the advent of political correctness. As time goes on it will be harder to find out the truth about anything that the left does not want us to know. I think it would be a good idea for us to purchase good old books - amazon has many old books at very low prices. Sometimes libraries sell old books, this would also be a good opportunity to save the truth from being lost to future generations. I hope that conservative publishers start reprinting some of these valuable books that tell us the truth rather than the leftist propaganda that is all too common today.


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1 posted on 04/26/2010 6:44:59 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom
Yes indeed, very, very important point. I think Star Trek once had a show in which an old book was the means of restoring a lost history.
Treasure old books, particularly history books, and cultural books. Commies want to destroy truth, and truthful history so as to more easily oppress people.
2 posted on 04/26/2010 6:50:36 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: cradle of freedom

I use to have a pre-WW2 history book and it had some amazin stuff in it. It described how they bought slaves from Africans instead of catching them themselves.

Something that might get mentioned in passing once in 12 years of educations and never repeated.


3 posted on 04/26/2010 6:51:57 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: cradle of freedom
it would be a good idea for us to look for old books printed before the advent of political correctness

OMG! I recently re-read an old book from my library, "Always Coming Home" by Ursula K. LeGuin; a very skilled and award-winning if quite-liberal author. In the future world (written in the mid-70s) she projects there is the issue of what to do with all the written works people produce, and her answer is that even with computer storage (again rather limited in the 70s) the answer was to destroy some works to make room for others.

That there could be a political element to the preservation / destruction question was not addressed there... but here it is.

Ugh.

4 posted on 04/26/2010 6:52:01 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: cradle of freedom

I didn’t know Amazon sold old books! There’s a site called alibris where I get a lot of old books.


5 posted on 04/26/2010 6:52:06 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: cradle of freedom

I have collected a few that I bet we won’t be able to get in a few years. Like Animal Farm and 1984. Dick and Jane books, maybe we could start a list?


6 posted on 04/26/2010 6:52:17 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (.)
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To: Cailleach

ping


7 posted on 04/26/2010 6:52:53 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

“The Order of St. Liebowitz” (save old books!)

(readers of ‘A Canticle for Liebowitz’ will catch the reference...)


8 posted on 04/26/2010 6:57:26 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: cradle of freedom

I think you have hit upon something that is very important, and it is something postive that each of us can do. We can all become librarians and preserve knowledge and culture against the onslaught.

Our Evanescent Culture And the Awesome Duty of Librarians

http://heinberg.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/209-our-evanescent-culture-and-the-awesome-duty-of-librarians/


9 posted on 04/26/2010 7:01:11 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: cradle of freedom
Gutenberg.org has tons of free ebooks, too.

I was reading one from Cambridge written in the early 1900 that said the main role of an educator was to 'weed-out' those unsuitable for higher education.

Imagine that....not thinking everyone was a candidate for college.

10 posted on 04/26/2010 7:01:42 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am not a administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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To: CondorFlight

Canticle is one of the books I would definitely save. We have two copies.

I have long been a “book saver”. Library sales, old book stores, auctions, I have a house that is packed with books. So amny books sometimes I forget what I have and buy another copy. LOL We have 2 copies of Canticle because 2 members of the family were reading it at the same time.


11 posted on 04/26/2010 7:06:57 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: cradle of freedom

good point.


12 posted on 04/26/2010 7:10:23 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (If the right has TEABAGGERS, then the left has SCUMBAGGERS and DOUCHEBAGGERS!!!)
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To: cradle of freedom

I have about 10,000 volumes and I realize that I will never be able to afford the space to put them on shelves, these are real books, not Stephen King and science fiction stuff.

I would read and pack them away for some distant future but now I just can’t see ever being able to really use them again, I don’t know what I’m going to do with them. I could sell them on E-Bay but I don’t like the world of selling used stuff, and all the mechanics and effort of it.


13 posted on 04/26/2010 7:14:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: cradle of freedom
I search for old books at garage sales, or we have some book stores that specialize in the old books, I like to go there.

Mostly I want History and geography books, BIO's, government history, anything on these lines I will collect. Anything on Geo. WAshington, Jefferson, Adams, etc.

14 posted on 04/26/2010 7:16:42 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: CondorFlight
‘A Canticle for Liebowitz’

My library copy of that should be coming up within a couple of weeks, people are still checking it out enough that there was a little waiting list for it.

15 posted on 04/26/2010 7:17:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: cradle of freedom

thats my specialty ,in a small way,to home school my daughter,for my own enlightenment,and to sell on ebay,,,I love old books,never read a book unless its ten yrs old or older,there’s so much history lost and truth twisted in today’s world.


16 posted on 04/26/2010 7:18:38 PM PDT by coalman (survived carter ,disco and clinton,just holding on till 2012)
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To: kalee

I’d like to get Canticle for Leibowitz


17 posted on 04/26/2010 7:21:31 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: cradle of freedom

You can find some real gems @ thrift stores, and the price is usually under a buck. I found a an Aug 1938 Luftpost brochure in a 1951 German Nav Book.

You just never know what will be between the pages, literally and figuratively.


18 posted on 04/26/2010 7:22:12 PM PDT by NCCarrs (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/30/quake.usa.editorial.reut/index.html)
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To: cradle of freedom

google BANCROFTS HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES

It is online, too,a google book

George Bancroft


19 posted on 04/26/2010 7:23:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: cradle of freedom

For the past 15 years, I have been collecting old American History books along with some world history. I’ve been fortunate to find some from the 1800’s, including a two volume set from 1882 - Pictorial History of the World’s Great Nations and an 1859 two volume set The Pictorial Field Book of the Revolution (American Revolution). They are fascinating to read.


20 posted on 04/26/2010 7:24:17 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: coalman

History Channel’s WORTHLESS “America the story of us” refused to use the words “Boston Tea Party” to describe the “Boston Tea Party”. In fact it made the colonists look like a bunch of criminals.

(not to mention all the alternative lifestyle crap tossed in in order to sneak it into the public schools)


21 posted on 04/26/2010 7:25:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cradle of freedom

FYI. The homeschooling community has been advocating this back in the 1990’s. Books before 1965 are the best, before 1940’s even better. I have a Britannica from 1955, and we are going to keep it.

It was a while ago, but there was a push to stop people from being able to re-sell older books, over bogus ‘health’ issues. HA! We have an old ‘Songs from the South’ my hubby had when growing up.

I tried to get older books for my daughter so she could have much better written books to read when she was young.

Fahrenheit 451 wasn’t so out there after all, was it?


22 posted on 04/26/2010 7:25:19 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: coalman

I learned about older books when I started homeschooling. I learned about McGuffey readers etc. Now when our local library sells the really old dictionaries I buy those. Sounds silly but I almost cried when they did away with the old card catalogs.


23 posted on 04/26/2010 7:26:24 PM PDT by timeflies
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To: cradle of freedom

Better act fast. They’ve already talked about destroying old children’s books due to the paper’s “Lead Content.”

Don’t worry, they’re pushing for “updated versions” to be released.


24 posted on 04/26/2010 7:27:38 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: cradle of freedom

I collect old history books.

If you decide to do so, check your ebay finds over on amazon to be sure you get a good price.

I’ve got fourteen or fifteen that I bought and the last four being Woodrow Wilson’s History of the USA. I found the Wilson book set for $20 for the set. Amazon had it for $20 PER book.

My ‘collection’ is complete for a while.

Try to find US History books written before WWI if you can. Good luck with your hunt.


25 posted on 04/26/2010 7:28:05 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: cradle of freedom

I’ve got 17 volumes of “the five-foot shelf” from Harvard, as well as the complete English translation of the Church Fathers (pre-and post-Nicene). I’ve been pursuing this strategy for a while, and wholeheartedly endorse this post. And a couple of Maj. Donald Keyhoe first editions, fer you GGG subscribers LOL.


26 posted on 04/26/2010 7:28:38 PM PDT by Churchjack
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To: cradle of freedom

Good reminder. I’ve picked up a lot of interesting older books in recent years, and I’ve held them for the same reasons. We have a set of children’s history books which are wonderfully written. The heroism of our founders is celebrated in a way we just don’t see in current books.


27 posted on 04/26/2010 7:29:54 PM PDT by Think free or die
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Kessinger Publishing Rare Reprints
28 posted on 04/26/2010 7:35:09 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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To: cradle of freedom

Anybody who has ever watched the Woodrow Wilson bio change on Wikipedia understands why we need to save old books.

With libraries headed for ‘the cloud’ to be controlled by a handful of leftist corporations we need to save the paper records, especially history and biography.

The problem is acidic paper. I’ve tried rubbing dry baking soda in old SF novels but it doesn’t seem to neutralize the acid like I’d hoped - in fact it seems to make the paper more brittle. Does anybody know a good, inexpensive, DIY, way to preserve documents and books printed on acidic paper?


29 posted on 04/26/2010 7:35:22 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (California -- Ya es como Mexico)
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To: cradle of freedom

This is weird, my mom and I were discussing today how prescient “Fahrenheit 451” is.

We were specifically talking about the parts where people lived confined with their “seashell” in their ear, attached to electronic media, but of course we ended up on “Living Books”.


30 posted on 04/26/2010 7:38:27 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: cradle of freedom

I think our local library has actually destroyed a lot of old books. Just one example. Years ago I found a book titles “The way things were.” This was a thick book that chronicled American history from the first settlers. It was organized to be an easy read, but it had volumes of information. It began around the 1600’s, then went 1620, 1630, 1640 and so on until 1776. Then it went every year up and through the mid 1980’s. Each year was organized by “Inventions” “Current news” “Education” “Politics” “War” or something similar. It categorized and documented so well and so much information on our country for each year. Who was in the news, what political parties were doing, what inventions there were, breakthroughs in medicines, and so forth, and then when it got into the 60’s and up, the contrast of the news, education and so forth from what you had been reading up until this point was so much more startling. Anyway, I took that book out several times and read it through twice. I went back one day and it was gone. Couldn’t find it. Went to the librarian and she had never heard of the book. But of course, there was a new book I saw come up that I had never seen before. It was a lib book titled “The way things weren’t”. I complained but all the librarians just acted like I was nuts and they had never heard of that book before at all. I have become suspicious ever since then.


31 posted on 04/26/2010 7:39:13 PM PDT by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Used to be a company called Ed Cole that sold archival products on the consumer market. Don’t know if they’re still around or not.


32 posted on 04/26/2010 7:39:58 PM PDT by Churchjack
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To: cradle of freedom

Good idea!


33 posted on 04/26/2010 7:43:13 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: freemike

You’ve got to wonder what they teach those librarians, they are the guardians of so much knowledge.


34 posted on 04/26/2010 7:49:21 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Great idea and I have some old books but my niche over the past 10 or plus years is cornering the market on “Frontier Times” and “Old West” magazines for their histories of the West and how it happened, both good and bad.


35 posted on 04/26/2010 7:53:38 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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I can’t say enough how important it is to read OLD books. When I taught a history class to upper elementary school kids in a private school I used an early ‘60s text book supplemented with Edward Eggleston’s First History book . There is a web site called “An Old Fashioned Education” which is just full of references and downloads of old texts but the real acquisition of these books is far better. I collect old common school readers. These are like the popular McGuffey Readers and have a selection of stories that are well written and morally uplifting. It is important to keep these stories alive! I am always depressed by what I see has happened to many of our national heritage sites. In Plymouth, Mass. before the ‘70s with its liberal social agenda , the Pilgrims were lauded as heroes. Now, Plimouth Plantation elevates the Wampanoag Indians to the role of misunderstood victims . The town of Plymouth allows Indian protestors to disrupt the annual Founders Day parade that goes through the streets of the city. They have a web site where they encourage this type of lawless behavior and make a mockery of our forefathers. If we do not preserve the past, the future generations of Americans will have no concept of it. I guarantee that.


36 posted on 04/26/2010 7:55:47 PM PDT by sueuprising
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To: cradle of freedom

Get the 1969 or earlier editions of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Before they were corrupted.


37 posted on 04/26/2010 8:01:12 PM PDT by ikka
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To: cradle of freedom; Recovering Ex-hippie

This thread may be of interest to you.


38 posted on 04/26/2010 8:04:58 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: cradle of freedom

I have about a thousand books, most of them history books. Some of them are actually antiques but most of them are just pre-PC. I enjoy going to used book stores and Goodwill or the Salvation Army store to find books no one else wants, but I do.


39 posted on 04/26/2010 8:11:20 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: cradle of freedom

I’ve saved a couple of old sets of encyclopedias, numerous old classroom textbooks from various grades, and as many old books of literature as I can get my hands on. I have been doing this for the last fifteen years or so. They are a pain, if you have to move, but I still see the day when they will be the resource that restores America’s educational foundations.


40 posted on 04/26/2010 8:15:52 PM PDT by redhead ("If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." --Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: cradle of freedom

Funny I read this...for the last year (hmmm...coincidence?) my wife has been buying every old non-fiction book she can find. It is amazing, when looking at my granddaughter’s history book, that there is just 3 paragraphs on the entire American revolution, and it fills over 50 pages of a school history book from the 1950s.

lol.


41 posted on 04/26/2010 8:17:33 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: freemike
I complained but all the librarians just acted like I was nuts and they had never heard of that book before at all. I have become suspicious ever since then.

I'm a reference librarian, and I don't think your question is nuts. However, I need more information, if you have it. For one thing, are you sure that the title is The Way Things Were? Searching Worldcat, a database of most of the nation's libraries, using the advanced search feature to limit the search to non-fiction books, I came up with 99 hits.

Adding "United States History" and then "United States--Social Conditions" brought only one hit: The Way Things Never Were by Norman Finkelstein (New York: Athenaeum, 1999), which is probably not what you're looking for.

I also searched on the website at the American Book Exchange, a clearinghouse for online booksellers and came up with a number of hits. This site also has an advanced search feature. You could also try searching Amazon's site.

The Chicago Public Library has a good online reference service--I go there to have my own reference questions answered, and they almost always come through.

Anyway, feel free to Freepmail me if you need additional help.

42 posted on 04/26/2010 9:04:42 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
I have a mountain of old paper sources from the 1880’s to the 1960’s. Time, Life, Newsweek, Farmers WIfe etc etc. My grand kids are in grade school and starting to write essays, book reports etc.

I am having a blast giving them news magazines from the time of the topic as the source. 90% of the time they get a low grade and I send in the source with a request for reviewing their grade. The grade has been adjusted each time

43 posted on 04/26/2010 9:17:18 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: cradle of freedom; coalman
C.S. Lewis on the reading of old books

Cheers!

44 posted on 04/26/2010 9:20:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF; cradle of freedom
With libraries headed for ‘the cloud’ to be controlled by a handful of leftist corporations we need to save the paper records, especially history and biography.

That was a leftist you heard screeching in the background: "Stop killing trees!"

45 posted on 04/26/2010 9:40:23 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: cradle of freedom

This is a very good idea. LOL, maybe I like it because I already have a lot of these.

But there were some scary bits I read the other day, for example a new edition of “The Night Before Christmas” that had cut the line about santa’s pipe smoke surrounding his head “like a wreath”. (see - I remember the last bit!).

I do have some old sheet music that has some lyrics you’ll probably not find today, such as the lyrics to “The Yellow Rose of Texas”. As well as the Brit version of “Yankee Doddle”.

I also have a couple of old (late 1800s) “Harpers Magazine” covers that were framed by my brother and which show their disgusting anti-Catholic bias.

So, you are quite right, good or bad it is important to keep these things so the historical record is accurate.

Remember 1984: He who controls the present controls the past, and he who controls the past controls the future.

Happy archiving all!


46 posted on 04/26/2010 10:42:53 PM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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To: timeflies

“Now when our local library sells the really old dictionaries I buy those.”

I rescued a fantastic old dictionary when we got rid of a lot of old law books at my job. It is truly almost as fat as two NYC telephone books.

It is MINE now, if you know what I mean.


47 posted on 04/26/2010 10:46:38 PM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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To: kalee

By “Canticle” do you mean “A Canticle for Leibowitz?”


48 posted on 04/26/2010 10:53:51 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Fiji Hill

I may have the title somewhat off. It has been easily about 8 years or more since I had this experience. It was something like How we were, or How things were or something like that. It’s funny, because there is a book I have found with a similar title and similar look, but is not that book. This book had a plain brown or tan front. No pictures. I have searched google and amazon. I would love to own that book. It is like the book just disappeared. The other crazy thing I will tell you, when I took that book out of the library, I was the only one to have ever taken the thing out. There were no other dates stamped in the back of the book. But I did read that book twice. It was a great book. I learned so much from it and would love to have it.
The library was the James V Brown library.


49 posted on 04/27/2010 4:24:41 AM PDT by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: cradle of freedom

My website (in my tagline) is all about preserving old books, from the Christian perspective.


50 posted on 04/27/2010 4:57:08 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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