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PROOF THAT WE HAVE IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON
http://www.theshootist.net/2009/03/dod-ends-sale-of-expended-military.html ^ | Email Forward

Posted on 05/02/2010 4:12:10 PM PDT by GrannyK

PROOF THAT WE HAVE SOME IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON

This is totally crazy and it should make you want to slap the hell out of the idiots we have in Washington DC .

Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America . They sell 9mm, .45, .223 ammunition. They normally buy spent brass from the US Department of Defense. Spent brass is "one time used" shell cases used by our Military for training purposes.

They buy the brass, recondition it, and then reload the brass for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Clubs, Gun Shops, and stores like Wal-Mart. They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time.

This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and informed him that from now on the DoD will be destroying the spent brass, shredding it. It will no longer be available to the ammo makers, unless they buy it in a scrap shredded condition (which they have no use for).

The shredded brass is now going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap metal, after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling the brass to China for less money than the ammo makers have been paying, plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do the accounting paperwork.

This sure helps the economy now doesn't it? Sell cheaper to China , and do not sell at all to a proven US business. Any hidden agenda working here? Obama going after the Firearms Industry and our ammunition!! The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week. The DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell cases he had already bought!

The brass has no value to the ammo maker if it is destroyed/shredded/melted. The ammo manufacturer only uses the empty brass cases to reload different calibers, mainly .223 bullets.

The owner of Georgia Arms says that he will have to lay off at least half of his 60 workers, within 2-3 months if the DoD will no longer sell spent brass cases to the industry. Georgia Arms has 2-3 months of inventory to use, by summer they're out.

If the Reloading Industry has to purchase new manufacture brass cases, then the cost of ammunition will double or even triple, plus Obama wants to add a 500% tax on each shell.

You can read the information and see the DoD letter to Georgia Arms here: The Shootist Site http://www.theshootist.net/2009/03/dod-ends-sale-of-expended-military.html

If you're not outraged at what this administration is doing you should be! Be Afraid! Be Very Very Afraid! Get involved! It's Your Freedom and Our Country They're Stealing! If You Fail to Act Now, there may not be a Free United States tomorrow!

I implore you to get involved and forward this to as many people as you can. Contact your legislators and put them on notice, We're fed up with what's going on in the name of stimulating our economy!


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1 posted on 05/02/2010 4:12:11 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

You did good.
You didn’t kill the html formatting, and anything that is out of whack in the arrticle body the mods can fix easily.


2 posted on 05/02/2010 4:14:09 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: GrannyK

bttt


3 posted on 05/02/2010 4:14:51 PM PDT by Matthew James (SPEARHEAD!)
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To: GrannyK
It's perfect.

I recall this in the news a while back when there was a major ammo shortage, it's good that it is kept in the news for it does appear to be senseless outside of political agenda.

4 posted on 05/02/2010 4:17:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

I just don’t understand why they want to destroy the shells when the military will also have to pay more for ammo.


5 posted on 05/02/2010 4:18:47 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK
“...If the Reloading Industry has to purchase new manufacture brass cases, then the cost of ammunition will double or even triple, plus Obama wants to add a 500% tax on each shell. ... “

These people are not idiots, they are cunning, treasonous wolves, mounting an attack on the Second Amendment. Make no mistake, death camps are on the way! IMHO

6 posted on 05/02/2010 4:18:51 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: GrannyK

This is just the regime doing what it can to reduce the supply of ammunition. It is so desperate to keep the people unarmed that it will literally spare no expense to do this.


7 posted on 05/02/2010 4:20:36 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: GrannyK
I just don’t understand why they want to destroy the shells when the military will also have to pay more for ammo.

I can only guess it is to create a shortage and at the same time, get rid of all casings that aren't bar coded.

8 posted on 05/02/2010 4:21:14 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GrannyK

The story is a year old and the policy was changed almost as soon as it was initiated.


9 posted on 05/02/2010 4:21:35 PM PDT by catpuppy (2009 --"We will not ration health care." 2012--"Anybody heard from grandpa?")
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To: GrannyK

Update: http://www.theshootist.net/2009/03/plowshares-beaten-back-into-bullets.html

DoD decision rescinded.


10 posted on 05/02/2010 4:21:43 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa
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To: GrannyK

The same story was going around about a year ago, but I heard everything got straightened-out.

http://proliberty.com/observer/20090311.htm


11 posted on 05/02/2010 4:25:35 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. - [ me ] -)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Thanks! I was told this but in my opinion we all need to keep vigilant and expect this from those in charge.


12 posted on 05/02/2010 4:26:50 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK
This is a waste of OUR MONEY and it is meant to punish and destroy the ammo business in the private sector. If folks cannot afford ammo, they will not buy it for practice and only use it when necessary. Too bad. This is wrong.

ANd it is such an abuse of our tax dollars.

Liberals suck. aND THEY ARE STUPID....DO THEY NOT KNOW THAT GOVERNMENT CHANGES WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTED? DO THEY THINK THEY ARE SAFE WITH GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING EVERYTHING? JUST WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE THE ONES IN THE HOSPITAL HALLWAYS SCREAMING WITHOUT HELP OVER THE PLUG BEING PULLED ON A BELOVED CHILD BECAUSE STATISTICS SHOW HE OR SHE IS GOING TO BE TOO EXPENSIVE TO TAKE CARE OF MEDICALLY. AND IT WILL BE THE POOR BLACK FOLKS AND THE POOR WHITE FOLKS AND THE POOR HISPANIC FOLK WHO SUFFER THIS FIRST BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LEAST POWERFUL OF ALL...THE ONES WHO WANTED THE FREEBIES AND THEN FIND OUT THEY GOT SATAN IN A GOVERNMENT WRAPPED PACKAGE, INSTEAD.

13 posted on 05/02/2010 4:28:21 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: GrannyK
Nothing wrong with your post, but . . .

PLEASE read the original article more carefully!

1. The article is dated March 2009.

2. In huge capitals at the original article, it says "This situation has been resolved." This was posted last March and everyone wrote their congresscritters and it was rescinded.

Sorry if I sound short but I'm posting from my iPhone.

14 posted on 05/02/2010 4:29:42 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: GrannyK

Moronic economics... moronic politics... deprives Americans... benefits the Chinese... yes, this has “Washington Handiwork” written all over it.

America has fallen into a pit of PC insanity, and it’s digging itself in ever deeper day by day.


15 posted on 05/02/2010 4:30:08 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: GrannyK
An aborted attempt to do an end-run around the Second Amendment.

Pure and simple.

16 posted on 05/02/2010 4:31:40 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: GrannyK

You did exceedingly well, GrannyK. Welcome.


17 posted on 05/02/2010 4:32:47 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember ("Subtlety is not going to win this fight": NJ Governor Chris Christie)
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To: GrannyK

Not idiots, but rather totalitarians who hate the Second Amendment.


18 posted on 05/02/2010 4:34:25 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember ("Subtlety is not going to win this fight": NJ Governor Chris Christie)
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To: GrannyK

looney idiot ping


19 posted on 05/02/2010 4:35:51 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: FormerACLUmember

Thanks! I guess I should have done more research but my blood was boiling when I read the story. My grandkids love to come to our farm and shoot their guns, I was worried we wouldn’t be able to buy ammo for them to practice. They retrieve all the empty shells before they go home.


20 posted on 05/02/2010 4:36:35 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: AnAmericanMother

No problem....I appreciate all ideas! I should have researched more before I posted.


21 posted on 05/02/2010 4:37:39 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

I used to be a neighbor to a lady that worked at Georgia arms.


22 posted on 05/02/2010 4:38:02 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: GrannyK
My first reaction to this was to recollect a 1944 poem by ee cummings “plato told” . But the more I reflect on this wrongheaded DOD policy, the more I see an effort to disarm American citizens and bankrupt its private industries as the underlying purpose here..

Still, there’s something about that cummings reference to that “nipponized bit of the third avenue el in the top of his head” convincing the doubter of Japanese imperial intentions. Our country has seen this movie before. Hasn’t anyone learned anything?

23 posted on 05/02/2010 4:46:22 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: Mobties

Pardon the non-working link to the ee cummings poem, “plato told”. It is here > http://everything2.com/title/plato+told


24 posted on 05/02/2010 4:48:39 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: GrannyK

I thought this had been cleared up a long time ago. This came up a couple of years ago.


25 posted on 05/02/2010 4:48:44 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: GrannyK

Friday night staying at a hotel in Crystal City and looking out the window at the US Capitol Building. My first reaction was to flip it the middle finger with emphasis.
I have since apologized to the building itself for it has more honor than most of the vermin creeps who walk it’s floors.


26 posted on 05/02/2010 4:53:07 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: GrannyK

“PROOF THAT WE HAVE IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON”
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WHO and why WOULD ANYONE WaNT PROOF???


27 posted on 05/02/2010 4:54:18 PM PDT by gunnyg (THINK! ~ AllOur Novembers Are Behind Us...)
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To: GrannyK
http://www.theshootist.net/2009/03/dod-ends-sale-of-expended-military.html

Sorry, GrannyK - the date of this article,please note, is “Sunday, March 15, 2009”

When that directive came out, the sh*t hit the fan.
and the gov’t pulled in it's horns quick.

that is not to say, however, that they aren't intent on implementing it. After all, they have it on the shelves.

Please see here the sequence of events last year:

http://www.ms-sportsman.com/printer_friendly.php?id=366

Sunday, Aprl 30, 2009

Excerpt” On Tuesday afternoon, six days after the directive was issued, DOD rescinded the order, announcing it would once again allow the sale of unmutilated military brass to the civilian market. The threat had been averted.

Expecting the new administration to make a move against guns, everyone naturally assumed this was a back-door attempt to limit firearm use in the U.S. by the new administration.

After all, remove the bullets, and the guns are useless, right?

On Wednesday, the National Rifle Association announced the decision to rescind sales was one that had been discussed months before — a broad plan to examine all military surplus sales to ensure hardware did not end up being sold eventually to terrorists and used against us.

According to the NRA, the directive was issued to give the DOD time to examine whether expended brass actually posed such a threat. Once it was determined it was safe to sell such material on the civilian market, the directive was lifted.

Of course, we all know how slow any government agency reacts to change. This had to be a new record for decision-making in a bureaucracy — such drastic actions were ordered and rescinded in a mere six days.

I personally believe the firestorm of criticism had a lot to do with the rapid cancellation of the order. But it doesn’t matter what caused it; the good news is the pipeline is still intact.”

So this dastardly plan was nipped in the bud and at a unprecedented speed. Though they would like to do this, I doubt they'll bring it up again in a hurry.

So as one granny to another, a word of caution: CHECK the DATE! (You scarred me to death! I knew we had shoved this back in the cave a year ago and I thought “OH NO! NOT AGAIN!”

Otherwise, you did a good job posting ;o) don't be discouraged.

28 posted on 05/02/2010 4:55:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: GrannyK

Old... order rescinded.


29 posted on 05/02/2010 4:58:59 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: GrannyK; marktwain; Joe Brower
The true agenda is keeping too much inexpensive ammo away from the peasants, who are growing restless.

Tyrants always prefer a disarmed peasantry. Or as less-armed as possible.

30 posted on 05/02/2010 5:13:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: GrannyK

Good post!

Important issue.


31 posted on 05/02/2010 5:17:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: GrannyK

You did good. You found out who posts to a thread without reading most of the comments. Good job.


32 posted on 05/02/2010 5:25:43 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: TXDuke

ping


33 posted on 05/02/2010 5:39:45 PM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: call meVeronica

I buy re-loads from Georgia Arms. Nice guys.


34 posted on 05/02/2010 5:58:31 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (FR - my online family. From Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: GrannyK

It’s to keep the reloaded ammo out of civilian hands. That’s the ONLY reason I can think of.


35 posted on 05/02/2010 6:16:31 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: GrannyK

No proof is needed to assume that DC is populated by people as stupid as a box of rocks.


36 posted on 05/02/2010 6:18:41 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: J Edgar
These people are not idiots, they are cunning, treasonous wolves, mounting an attack on the Second Amendment. Make no mistake, death camps are on the way! IMHO

No doubt in my mind.

37 posted on 05/02/2010 6:58:21 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Since I am still learning....how did you add all of the pictures and all to your bio page? That is really neat.


38 posted on 05/02/2010 7:30:20 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

ping


39 posted on 05/02/2010 7:36:52 PM PDT by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: GrannyK
I implore you to get involved and forward this to as many people as you can. Contact your legislators and put them on notice, We're fed up with what's going on in the name of stimulating our economy!

Stimulatinng the economy? Let's get real here.
This is about going around the Second Amendment.


"The power to tax is the power to destroy"
has never been clearer. 500% tax on ammunition? Suppose the fascists imposed a new tax on churches; say annually $1000 per parishoner. How would that be any different?

Time for a plea to the Supreme Court toot sweet!

I see no violation of the Constitution by shredding the cases and destroying the value, thus wasting colossal amounts of money. Government does that all the time.

There is no Constitutional prohibition against that! Although I would argue that that constitutes lack od due diligence is fiduciary responsibility to the American taxpayer, and incompetence in governance.

40 posted on 05/02/2010 7:44:03 PM PDT by Publius6961 (10% of muslims, the killer murdering radicals, are "only" 140,000,000 of 'em)
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To: GrannyK
I just don’t understand why they want to destroy the shells when the military will also have to pay more for ammo.

What's to understand?
It's not their money.

41 posted on 05/02/2010 9:49:46 PM PDT by Publius6961 (10% of muslims, the killer murdering radicals, are "only" 140,000,000 of 'em)
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To: GrannyK
Thanks for posting this story.

We need to be reminded of things 0bama has tried to do and has done in the 15 months since he took office.

He is dangerous!

42 posted on 05/02/2010 10:54:49 PM PDT by TYVets (I want to see Congress required to get their healthcare in VA hospitals)
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To: GrannyK

The military doesn’t pay for it. You do. And Bill Clinton banned imports of Chinese ammo for we peons.


43 posted on 05/03/2010 9:43:30 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: Publius6961

>Suppose the fascists imposed a new tax on churches; say annually $1000 per parishoner. How would that be any different?

It’s ‘different’ because that would be congress “prohibiting the free exercise thereof” [religion].

Everyone knows that “shall not be infringed,” in regards to firearms, means only by the government... which is why they have full-autos, high-capacity magazines, and silencers!

[/cynic][/semi-sarc]


44 posted on 05/03/2010 10:10:47 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GrannyK

Thank you. I think you are the first person who complimented me on my profile page.

I store my pictures on Photobucket.com. It’s a free website for using your pictures for your websites or pages. After storing the picture there, you can then use the HTML code for bringing that particular picture to the profile page.

If you click on you picture when it’s at Photobucket they give you the code so you don’t have to type it but I usually type it anyway. There are others here who can probably help you much more than I did just now. I’m still new at it and I just memorized that one code.

Let me know how it works out for you.


45 posted on 05/03/2010 4:27:23 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Thank you! I will keep your directions for later when I have time to experiment...


46 posted on 05/03/2010 6:35:05 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: Shooter 2.5

“Thank you. I think you are the first person who complimented me on my profile page.”

PS: I think I am impressed because we have a lot of the same interests (according to your posted photos.)


47 posted on 05/04/2010 11:06:55 AM PDT by GrannyK
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