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05 May 2010 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 05/05/2010 6:22:52 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

Does any of you think that because the United States has rejected G*D and elected Obama that he has withdrawn his hand of protection on this country and that is why the hits are coming thick and fast now?


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1 posted on 05/05/2010 6:22:52 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

My car didn’t start this morning.


2 posted on 05/05/2010 6:24:39 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: US Navy Vet

Absolutely.


3 posted on 05/05/2010 6:25:04 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (S)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes. Look up!


4 posted on 05/05/2010 6:26:02 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: US Navy Vet

I think we elected Obama because He has withdrawn His support for us.


5 posted on 05/05/2010 6:26:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: US Navy Vet

Obama or not, we’ve rejected God. Perhaps God gave us Obama because of our rejection.

I’m only in my mid-30’s but have never before witnessed the radical change that is happening in our country. Washington is so corrupt that it is beyond redemption.

America’s best days are behind her. We peaked in the 50’s.

TSgt


6 posted on 05/05/2010 6:27:00 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: US Navy Vet
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever. - Thomas Jefferson
7 posted on 05/05/2010 6:27:08 AM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: US Navy Vet
Does any of you think that because the United States has rejected G*D and elected Obama that he has withdrawn his hand of protection on this country and that is why the hits are coming thick and fast now?

Do you think the election of Obama and the rejection of God are one in the same? Do you think we'd have honored God by electing John McCain instead?

8 posted on 05/05/2010 6:27:22 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: US Navy Vet
It's possible. We do know that it is God who sets up kings and deposes them, so it's clear he allowed Obama to be elected. Perhaps He has resigned the gluttons over to gorging at the trough of the treasury. Giving them what they want, which will, of course lead to their destruction.

Unfortunately, they aren't the only ones that are going to suffer. But that isn't unusual in this world.

I do have hope that, if we pray and work, He may yet extend mercy to us and revive our nation.

9 posted on 05/05/2010 6:27:55 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Every time the Israelites rejected God and removed themselves from His presence; what happened?

Answer: Their enemies overtook them.


10 posted on 05/05/2010 6:28:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: US Navy Vet

I would say that our current crop of ‘leaders’ are evidence God is letting us go our own way. Also in this defense look at the decay of our society and values. If you look at scripture theres always a slow decline into slavery and the US is well on its way. Is it inevitable we’ll wind up at the bottom? I think not. Scripture also says if we (the church) turn from our evil and call out to God he’ll heal our land. So, a crash and burn isn’t a forgone conclusion.


11 posted on 05/05/2010 6:28:28 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: US Navy Vet

God doesn’t change. Read what he let happen to Isreal when they rejected him.
Also read what happens when people repent and turn back to him.


12 posted on 05/05/2010 6:29:23 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: US Navy Vet

The US has not rejected God.

The US is under attack from within, and God is not going to stand for it.

This is God’s fight, and God always wins.


13 posted on 05/05/2010 6:30:50 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: US Navy Vet

I have a fungus in my boxwoods


14 posted on 05/05/2010 6:31:27 AM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Is this a vanity?


15 posted on 05/05/2010 6:31:59 AM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: US Navy Vet; tx_eggman

Why do you believe God has removed His protective hand?

We’ve had three major terror attempts that have slipped right through our best security measures (sarcasm dripping), and for all practical purposes, should have succeeded and caused much damage.

Miraculously... they failed. Not prevented... just didn’t work.

God can work through idiots as well as saints.


16 posted on 05/05/2010 6:32:10 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: US Navy Vet

America cried out for a king and they got one. God said in the passed you want a king you can have one, you will live with the consequences.


17 posted on 05/05/2010 6:32:29 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hello Alex. I was asking about you the other day. Seems you took a break from FReeping. Welcome back.

BTTT. From your FReep page:

“If My people, who are called by My name
...not the unsaved, not the non-church-goer, not the atheist, and not those who belong to other religions....
will humble themselves
...we Christians better start getting used to the idea that we’re part of the problem. Yes, we helped make this mess...

and pray
...if we’re not asking for His help, we might not get it...

and seek My face
...He’s not just our Savior, He’s supposed to be our Lord. We need to find out what He wants us to do. We don’t tell Him what we want to do...

and turn from their wicked ways
...again, we’ve been part of the problem all along. If we don’t admit it, and we don’t change what we’re doing, don’t expect the things around us to change either...

then will I hear from heaven
...notice it’s an if/then equation. If we don’t do all of the above, He makes no promise to hear us...

and will forgive their sin
...we need to recognize that our country’s problems are ultimately ethical problems. God [the Person you are praying to/seeking the face of] sets the rules....

and will heal their land.”
...note that this comes only at the end of everything above. If our priorities are out of whack, we’ll probably think that God needs to heal this land first.

We who are Christians need to repent. This is the only thing that will free this country again.


18 posted on 05/05/2010 6:32:59 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: US Navy Vet
Does any of you think that because the United States has rejected G*D and elected Obama

Many Americans have not rejected God and did not elect Obama.

If he wanted to punish Obama and the Left, there are plenty of ways he might do that without punishing his children.

19 posted on 05/05/2010 6:33:04 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Vera Baker rumors--The Obama White House solution to imminent 'himbo' eruptions!)
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To: US Navy Vet
It's much simpler than that.

The voters of the United States rejected our constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government, and the communists were able to capture all three branches of government.

With or without God, stupid voters get what they voted for.

20 posted on 05/05/2010 6:33:52 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes, Obama is the antichrist no doubt and the END times are here. America could’ve saved itself with McCain, atleast he was a real american. Now we are going to be destroyed by secular intellectuals and commie thugs unless we don’t revert course.

Election 2012 November, Apocalypse 2012 December coincidence??


21 posted on 05/05/2010 6:34:47 AM PDT by Tears of a Clown (Hunker down)
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To: Tears of a Clown

“America could’ve saved itself with McCain” can I have some of what you are smoking.


22 posted on 05/05/2010 6:37:42 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: TSgt

I think its worse than that. I think we elected God DESPITE the many blessings He gave us, despite the warnings HE gave us, despite His presence among us. We slapped God in the face (again) and God, like the just and wise Parent is stepping back for we the children to realize what s**t tastes like.


23 posted on 05/05/2010 6:40:42 AM PDT by Alkhin (I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell. ~ Harry S Truman)
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To: US Navy Vet
1 Samuel 10:19
And ye have this day rejected your God, who himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations; and ye have said unto him, Nay, but set a king over us. Now therefore present yourselves before the LORD by your tribes, and by your thousands.

There are plenty other examples in the Old Testament, of the various tribes rejecting God.

My salvation is a personal decision not a national one. I have not rejected God, and won't. As for ME and MY HOUSE we will serve the Lord.

24 posted on 05/05/2010 6:41:16 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I think the reason we HAVE Obama is because we rejected God.


25 posted on 05/05/2010 6:42:38 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: US Navy Vet
"hits coming thick and fast"???????????????

Why don't you list the "hits"???

And...can you prove the "hist" are coming any thicker and faster than they did during the time of James Monroe, Abraham Lincoln, or clintoon???

26 posted on 05/05/2010 6:43:03 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin'!)
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Really a tough call. I don't think what's happening is that obvious. I don't see Obama as a punishment but as a natural result of millions of moral choices by individuals. I do know this; Abortion is a heinous crime, and Obama is an extreme abortionist. We've accepted abortion, so Obama is a natural fit for such a country. He'll get Americans killed. He'll bankrupt the economy. But those effects are ancillary to why he came to be. I'm reading “Storm Warning”. It's an updated version of a book Billy Graham put out back in the 90’s interpreting current events relative to Revelation. I think Graham thinks we're in the time of the “Lies” at the end of time and he ties this to the “White horse”.
27 posted on 05/05/2010 6:43:14 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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United States has rejected G*D and elected Obama

Yep. We're heading for a tribulation - the worst this country has ever seen.
Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good.

The 10 Commandments have been removed from the public square. The Doctrine of Demons (Political Correctness - the antitheses of the 10 commandments) has moved in to take their place.

"Blessed are those who read aloud or hear the words of this prophecy and observe the things written in it, for the appointed time is near. Comfort one another with these words." -- Revelation

28 posted on 05/05/2010 6:43:45 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Alex Murphy
Do you think the election of Obama and the rejection of God are one in the same? Do you think we'd have honored God by electing John McCain instead?

Do you think John McCain would have abandoned Israel? In a lot of ways, I don't think there would have been much difference. But as the days roll on, I don't think McCain would have drug us down the same gutter...sadly, he would have taken us into a slightly less socialist gutter...

29 posted on 05/05/2010 6:44:36 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Tag line deleted...don't want to incite violence...)
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To: US Navy Vet

I think if God had removed his hand you wouldn’t be asking people if they thought so.

Some bombs fail, and do not detonate.


30 posted on 05/05/2010 6:48:29 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: svcw
America cried out for a king and they got one.

Not exactly.

Only a little over half the voters supported this guy and for a wide variety of reasons.


31 posted on 05/05/2010 6:48:55 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Vera Baker rumors--The Obama White House solution to imminent 'himbo' eruptions!)
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To: US Navy Vet
I think this is a very astute question. It's not very often that we think about or discuss the providential mission and responsibility of the United States. Was the US not founded by those seeking freedom to worship God? Did they not risk their lives to do so?

Look at what has become of this beautiful country. This is a country made up of people from all races, nations and cultures. It is a model for an ideal world. The heat for the "melting pot" was provided by love and respect and high ideals. But we live in a fallen world made up of fallen men and so our ideals are at risk of corruption. At present, it certainly seems that corruption is ascendant.

Has our nation turned away from God? Politicians conspire with wealthy and powerful to raid our treasury and tax the people. The culture is saturated with pornography. Homosexuality has more influence than Christianity once did. How did this happen?

I think the many scandals of past years opened the door for this to happen. Jim and Tammy, Jimmy Swaggert, pedophile priests etc. And don't forget our so called conservative republican leaders who got flushed because of scandal. That includes Newt Gingrich, Livingston and more.

How can God bless a nation that rejects high moral standards? Adultery and premarital sex are considered normal and in many cases celebrated. Where are the leaders calling for an end to this?

Frankly, I think 2012 is going to be a referendum of sorts, not just about Obama but about the moral direction of our country. I'm pretty sure that the leader who stands up for family values and moral standards will be the winner. I'm also certain that there will be phonies who will talk grandly about this but the genuine person will win the support of God and the people.

32 posted on 05/05/2010 6:52:25 AM PDT by Grim (That's why I'm voting for Sarah.)
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To: US Navy Vet

There is bright star that rises in the east.

Have a good day and a better tomorrow.


33 posted on 05/05/2010 6:52:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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I believe that God’s hand of protection is still over the United States and Israel. When our President acts stupidly He pulls his had back a little and some evil comes our way. Arafat’s visits brought us a Hurricane and Nrothridge earthquake. There is a book out with 50 examples pulling his hand back. With the way our setting resident is acting we need to be prepared for more.


34 posted on 05/05/2010 6:53:49 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Grim

I think that this country was founded for one purpose and that is to enable the world to be prepared for the re-founding of the State of Isreal. And when we turn our back on and poke at the “Apple of G*D’s Eye” WATCH OUT....!!!


35 posted on 05/05/2010 6:55:35 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: MEGoody
It's possible. We do know that it is God who sets up kings and deposes them, so it's clear he allowed Obama to be elected. Perhaps He has resigned the gluttons over to gorging at the trough of the treasury. Giving them what they want, which will, of course lead to their destruction. Unfortunately, they aren't the only ones that are going to suffer. But that isn't unusual in this world. I do have hope that, if we pray and work, He may yet extend mercy to us and revive our nation.

That's pretty much the way I see it, neighbor.

36 posted on 05/05/2010 6:58:36 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into America's Twilight...)
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To: MEGoody
We do know that it is God who sets up kings and deposes them, so it's clear he allowed Obama to be elected.

"The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness" (2 Thess. 2:9-12).

37 posted on 05/05/2010 6:58:59 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: backhoe

concur, however...

2 Chronicles 7:14

key word = IF


38 posted on 05/05/2010 7:04:18 AM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day ... John 8:12 & 14:6; Psalm 119:105; Joshua 24:15)
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To: US Navy Vet
Ezekiel 6:9

Then in the nations where they have been carried captive, those who escape will remember me—how I have been grieved by their adulterous hearts, which have turned away from me, and by their eyes, which have lusted after their idols. They will loathe themselves for the evil they have done and for all their detestable practices.

This is not the only reference in the Bible about Nations falling away. The Jews are the example and how many times have they failed?

39 posted on 05/05/2010 7:04:34 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Free the last Navy Seal)
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To: US Navy Vet
Does any of you think that because the United States has rejected G*D and elected Obama that he has withdrawn his hand of protection on this country and that is why the hits are coming thick and fast now?

I've said since November 2008 that I can't decide if Obama will bring GOD's wrath on our nation for turning its back on HIM, or whether Obama IS God's wrath for this nation turning its back on HIM. Ponder that.

40 posted on 05/05/2010 7:04:41 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: OB1kNOb

hummmm...


41 posted on 05/05/2010 7:06:04 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Safrguns

Wish he would get back into the fight and soon.


42 posted on 05/05/2010 7:10:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: US Navy Vet
We are on a slippery slope, but haven't gone over the cliff yet. Revival is still possible. I think God is trying to get our attention. The vast majority of Americans are ill informed because they either don't care or depend on the MSM for their news. No one in the MSM seemed to want to ask the hard questions about 0bama during the election. Some people seem to be waking up now, as they see their rights being eroded and the enemies of America are becoming more bold and showing their true colors.

Pray for America.

43 posted on 05/05/2010 7:11:23 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: US Navy Vet

maybe


44 posted on 05/05/2010 7:15:37 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: OB1kNOb
Exactly what I've thought, but maybe there's a third thread here to explain events; maybe it's not about us as a nation at all. Maybe it's time that the earth is rolled up like a carpet, and this country like every other country has served its purpose. Maybe the only question remaining is the only one that ever mattered; do we accept Christ? What happens to the country or the world is irrelevant. All that matters is what happens to our own soul and anybody else’s that we can reach.
45 posted on 05/05/2010 7:19:13 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: US Navy Vet

that hand of protection was gone long before Obama - abortions alone would have prompted that


47 posted on 05/05/2010 7:26:58 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: US Navy Vet

God helps those who helps themselves. We have a great opportunity to do just that coming up in November.


48 posted on 05/05/2010 7:28:11 AM PDT by DrC
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To: US Navy Vet

I don’t think it started with the election of Obama. I do think God removed his hand of protection from the US, yes.


49 posted on 05/05/2010 7:34:20 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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