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"Common Sense Conservative" is the new "Compassionate Conservative"?
PA Times | 5/10/10 | Pissant

Posted on 05/10/2010 12:43:18 PM PDT by pissant

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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
40 years from now, people will be saying that there's only one kind of conservative that they will vote for - a TITUS QUINCTIUS CINCINNATUS CONSERVATIVE!

Sadly, 40 years from now people won't be able to spell conservative, thanks to public education.

51 posted on 05/10/2010 4:43:31 PM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: pissant
Analysts: Carly Fiorina long on vision, fell short on execution at HP

"HP just really isn't such a special place anymore," said David Woodley Packard, a former HP board member whose father cofounded the company. "She came in and turned it into something else, and I don't think it was necessary."

But in at least one key respect, Fiorina's reign at the helm of the iconic Silicon Valley firm has been vindicated by time. Her signature move while at HP — a $25 billion megamerger with Compaq that was panned by many observers at the time — has turned out to be a boon for the company, several experts now acknowledge. That acquisition and others undertaken by Fiorina's successor, Mark Hurd, have made Palo Alto-based HP the largest technology company in the world.

"She created a situation where the company could be successful, but it took others to actually make it work," said technology analyst Rob Enderle.

This is not a picture of a bleeding heart liberal. Instead, she is a hard nosed no non-sense business person who saved HP but ended up taking the hit because the changes necessary were unwanted and unwelcome. But, most of the competitors that didn't make the change are gone. Dinosaurs from a lost time in the past.

52 posted on 05/10/2010 8:06:37 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

I’ve read all about her tenure there. She stunk the joint up


53 posted on 05/10/2010 8:07:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
I'd be inclined to stay away from any hyphenated "conservatives;" the last one - compassionate conservative - didn't work out too well, other than as a figleaf for more disguised liberal redistributive spending.

Redistribution is Theft
54 posted on 05/10/2010 8:09:17 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: pissant
You know, you are just about crossing into the territory I reserve for blithering idiots. The "Don't bother me with the Facts" crowd. I supposed you wanted her to be loved at HP when it was saving they needed. You are the bleeding heart liberal at your core and you don't know it. "Can't we just get along?"

Grown ups look at a situation and deal with what is, babies whine and wish. Liberals hate her, Liberals write the columns, especially in the Tech world. And you are a sucker for their crap. And yet, even while trashing her, in the column I sent to you they admitted that she saved HP and put it on the current track as one of the most successful computer companies in the world. What do you want? Grow up.

55 posted on 05/10/2010 8:17:44 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

You can pretend all you want. Your ‘facts’ don’s square with reality. They should have fired her incompetent ass long before they did.


56 posted on 05/10/2010 8:20:22 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant; Kimberly GG; indylindy
Which “list”, compassionate or common sense?

There was a list of "Palin haters" here earlier today, quickly zotted... You were on it, Kimberly GG and indylindy were on it, as were quite a few others (EXCEPT ME). Seemed like pretty good company.

Kinda reminiscent of the ol' "Thompson hater" list.

57 posted on 05/10/2010 8:22:39 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

Damn. How did I miss it! Of course, I don’t hate Palin. I kinda like her. I just think she needs to be Sec of Energy or some such, not President.


58 posted on 05/10/2010 8:23:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
You can pretend all you want. Your ‘facts’ don’s square with reality. They should have fired her incompetent ass long before they did.

As opposed to your "facts" which amount to off of the cuff statements, I have cited one of many analysts opinions about the matter who actually are competent to have an opinion. I also picked a source that was hostile to her to show that even through the hostility, there are certain facts that show through. That Carly pointed HP in the direction of survival.

Corporate leadership is as much about politics and intrigue as it is about numbers and sales. It is a hard hard place. Fiorina went against the HP founder board members and bested them. However, as they say, eventually the price has to be paid. Once Fiorina had accomplished what she could as the "bad cop", HP ejected her and replaced her with the "good cop".

The disposal of the Instrument's division was ordained before Firoina was hired and this is where all of the ire and pain was coming from, as HP left its beginnings as a Super high end instrument company and became a world class computer company. She led this transition in a take no prisoners way that wasn't and frankly couldn't be handled in a popular fashion but she did it and HP shareholders reaped Billions in value because of her work. And frankly a huge number of HP and Compaq workers kept their jobs when most every other manufacturer shut their doors.

My question to you is does that bother you? It seems like it does.

If you show me a universally loved CEO I will show you someone who is hiding in their office.

59 posted on 05/10/2010 9:07:33 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

You have no facts. Just conjecture and opinions.


60 posted on 05/10/2010 9:08:39 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Of course, I don’t hate Palin. I kinda like her. I just think she needs to be Sec of Energy or some such, not President.

Meh. I like Conservatives. sorry.

61 posted on 05/10/2010 9:27:40 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: pissant; roamer_1

You read my mind pissant; ditto that.

It’s so progressive-like to label anyone who doesn’t agree with anything/everything Palin (or anyone else for that matter), as “haters”.


62 posted on 05/10/2010 10:16:51 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: pissant

I have liked alot of the things you have done here. I have been impressed many times with your passion but not this time. In my eyes, this behavior is beneath you.


63 posted on 05/10/2010 11:00:09 PM PDT by dalight
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To: roamer_1

Thats funny I was on the Palin hater list because I don’t hate her. Some stuff she does is pretty good. If a “hater” means that I don’t think she is perfect and won’t give her a free pass, then I guess I am a hater. LOL

Actually, I don’t say much about her lately. I am staying a neutral and watching. The people who make lists are as kooky as Obozo and his minions.


64 posted on 05/11/2010 3:53:47 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy; Kimberly GG; pissant
Thats funny I was on the Palin hater list because I don’t hate her. Some stuff she does is pretty good. If a “hater” means that I don’t think she is perfect and won’t give her a free pass, then I guess I am a hater. LOL

LOL!, right? I think that is EXACTLY what "hater" means... It is such a... liberal tactic...

And don't get me wrong. I don't hate her either. I try pretty hard not to hate anyone (though McQuack makes it very hard). :D

What I feeeeel is entirely incidental. It is her record that matters.

65 posted on 05/11/2010 12:38:35 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

There is a lot to like about Sarah. She is best in the position she is in now.

There is only one chance left on our side to turn the Obozo agenda around. If we win Congress and screw it up, all is over.

My problem with Palin is her baggage and I am not sure she can win.

No offense to her, but I am waiting to see how she grows before 2012.

She appears to have turned all GOP and is playing the Tea Party one minute and the RINO GOP the next. They are not one and the same, though she may wish that there were. No amount of shilling can make Carly Fiorina a conservative.

Which is it Sarah?


66 posted on 05/11/2010 2:01:09 PM PDT by dforest
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“It is her record that matters.”

I thinks she’s doing whatever the freeking GOP tells her to do...she just endorsed ANOTHER Rhino, Rob Portman, Ohio. Either people have completely misunderstood who she was all along or she’s totally a ‘sell out’.


67 posted on 05/11/2010 10:32:13 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG; roamer_1; indylindy; pissant
I thinks she’s doing whatever the freeking GOP tells her to do...she just endorsed ANOTHER Rhino, Rob Portman, Ohio. Either people have completely misunderstood who she was all along or she’s totally a ‘sell out’.

I think she is just not a Conservative, according to her record. she is a populist who leans a smidge toward libertarianism (as most western types do). Fairly typical Baker moderate, just like Bush, McCain, Thompson and etc... The hyphenated "conservatives".

An interesting study is to compare the little ACU "political tendency" maps for McCain, Palin, KBH, and Romney (as examples), with a known Conservative template, like Hunter or DeMint (and etc).

The evidence is plain, and won't be all that surprising.

68 posted on 05/12/2010 12:27:52 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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