Coroner: Dog put down for Ohio death was trying to help owner who collapsed after heart attack

fox59 ^ | May 18, 2010

[JoeProBono]

CLEVELAND (AP) — A coroner says an Ohio woman suffered a heart attack before collapsing in her driveway while bringing in the pet Rottweiler that was destroyed after being blamed for mauling her to death.

Cuyahoga County Coroner Frank Miller said Tuesday that there were few dog bites on 63-year-old Carolyn Baker of Cleveland Heights, who died in February. He says there were signs of pawing, showing that "the dog was trying to help her."

[JoeProBono]

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[Larry381]

Sometimes I really hate the Human Race.

[LouAvul]

It says there were dog bites present. “Few dog bites.” They don’t know what happened one way or the other, do they?

[JoeProBono]

http://www.fox59.com/news/sns-ap-us—rottweilerdefended,0,6733210.story

[Blogger]

I think if a Rotty were trying to harm her, there’d be more than a few dog bites.

[Pavegunner72]

He is def up in Heaven with her now romping around the fields.

[LSAggie]

Ditto what you said. I just turned a sweet little dog over to Animal Control that I think the owners dumped, although the woman might have been trying to get the dog in her car and the dog was skittish. Except the dog chased the car for awhile....

If I wasn’t committing 95% of my time to keeping my sweet rescue CAH dog alive, I never would have called Animal Control, but I couldn’t bring another dog into the house with my dog being so sick.

[Tammy8]

Few bites and pawing marks- sounds like he was trying to get her to wake up and move- maybe tried to drag her. Talk about jumping to conclusions, you would think they would have waited until the investigation was over before killing the dog.

[Soothesayer9]

Sorry, but only humans get to go there. Read the Bible sometime.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Sorry, but only humans get to go there. Read the Bible sometime. ................................. Hmmmmmm? I miss my dog too much, Find out where he is sent I can go there to be with him again.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

Sorry, but that’s not true. Read the Bible sometime.

There are animals in heaven, more specifically in paradise.

What makes you believe that the author of the Universe, the creator of everything, he who gives life to the dead, and everlasting life to those who love him cannot bring a blessed pet to a person who is in paradise?

Animals don’t have souls to allow them to pass this world into paradise on their own, but the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Father of all and my personal Lord and Savior has the ability, the compassion, and the everlasting kindness to bring a beloved pet to a person in paradise.

[JoeProBono]

[LADY J]

I believe a coroner would know if the dog bites were from trying to make her wake up. He surely knows what mauling looks like!! He would know if the biting happened before or after she died.

Poor Zeus. If doggies go to heaven - he's with his owner now. His barking alerted a neighbor..He did everything a dog could do to help her. :-(

[babygene]

“Animals don’t have souls to allow them to pass this world into paradise on their own”

They probably say the same thing about us...

[rwfromkansas]

I think it’s possible God may allow us to have our pets with us even though they don’t have souls. Remember there is talk about the lion laying down with the lamb etc. Heaven isn’t a place where a bunch of ghosts roam around. We will be there body and blood.

That said, whether we would care is another question...heaven isn’t chat time with your grandma. It’s going to be a full-time worship of God.

[rwfromkansas]

Keep in mind Christ rose body and blood and we will to. So, it is incorrect to think only our soul will be in heaven.

Therefore, I think it is even more likely real animals will be there considering the Bible’s mention of it.

I don’t know about our specific pets, however.

[mojitojoe]

I don’t believe my Lord can’t bring my pets to me my pets that passed away. They were part of my family, I consider them my among my closet friends. I refuse to believe there is not a place for them to join me there.

[Pavegunner72]

Thanks for clearing that up freak.

[mojitojoe]

His barking alerted a neighbor..He did everything a dog could do to help her. :-(

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I agree. If a Rottie mails you, there will be no question about it. Their jaws are like those of a pit bull.

[JoeProBono]

[ransomnote]

Actually the bible does mention creatures in heaven but there is no assurance that it is OUR specific pets that are there.

[Deaf Smith]

Rod Sterling thinks (as I do) that they have a place: Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sejMCBPQ7qg
Then go to Part 3.

[fortheDeclaration]

Very sad story for both.

If anyone would like to contribute to animals by just clicking, see the link below. http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?siteId=3

[ransomnote]

The bible does mention creatures (animals) honoring God in heaven but we don’t know which animals - whether or not they are our pets. SO, I figure if we don’t know if our pets will be there or not, why assume they won’t be? : )

[Post5203]

What you said...

[panthermom]

My dad was a fireman, he responded to a fire where a woman had fallen asleep drunk on the couch while smoking a cigarette. She had a Great Dane, you could tell the dog tried to drag her out of the house, he finally laid down next to her and died with her.

[240B]

Wow, that first was hard for me to swallow.

A coroner says an Ohio woman suffered a heart attack
-—ok got it a woman suffer a heart attack. check

before collapsing in her driveway
-—ok she collapsed in her driveway check

while bringing in the pet Rottweiler that was destroyed
-—ok she's bringing in a dog that was destroyed (funeral i guess) check

after being blamed for mauling her to death.
-—ok she was bring in the dead dog that was destroyed for killing her? what?

I finally got it, but it took three reads. I had to decode it.

Do newspapers even have writers anymore? Or, have they all been layoff already?

[RegulatorCountry]

Men, beasts, birds and fish have both a physical, Earthly body and a spiritual body, according to the Apostle Paul in Corinthians. It's one of my favorite Biblical passages. You should try reading it sometime.

And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

So, this poor Creature of God known as Zeus, was trying to help the poor woman as best he knew how, and was dispatched from this physical world for his efforts. He does have a spiritual body, however, according to the Bible and the Apostle Paul, and so he was not Created for futility, and will not be subjected to vanity. None of God's Creation will be, according again to the Apostle Paul, in Romans.

For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

So, who are you to debate this? Take your quarrel with His Word up with Him.

[JoeProBono]

[JoeProBono]

[TNoldman]

If you believe dogs don’t have souls then you have never been close to a dog or close to God.

[OldPossum]

I don’t have the specific quotation in front of me but as I recall, Will Rogers once said (and this may be paraphrased): “I don’t know if dogs go to Heaven but I do know that I want to go where they go.”

[chris_bdba]

Don’t pay any attention to him! he has some very strange ideas about what the bible says.

[TNdandelion]

Oh wow. (sniff)

[Rifleman]

“Heaven goes by favour. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.”

Samuel Langhorne Clemens