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81-Year-Old Squirrel Killer Sentenced To 30 Days
gothamist.com ^ | May 21, 2010 | Jen Carlson

Posted on 05/22/2010 7:39:40 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

An 81-year-old Army vet from East Northport, Long Island is now behind bars for killing a squirrel. William Thomas was convicted in February of misdemeanor animal abuse, and is now serving out his 30-day sentence. According to Newsday, he used a pellet gun to shoot the animal at his home back in 2008, and neighbors have told authorities that the old man would leave bait in his yard and shoot at animals from a window. He's been arrested 12 times in 5 years for wildlife violations.

His daughter has expressed concern over proper medical treatment while locked up, as he allegedly has a host of health problems, including dementia and hypothyroidism. She told the paper, "He has a lot of confusion and dizziness. Hopefully, the people in there have respect for the elderly."

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1 posted on 05/22/2010 7:39:40 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I guess it wasn’t squirrel hunting season.


2 posted on 05/22/2010 7:41:51 PM PDT by devere
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To: Free ThinkerNY
would leave bait in his yard and shoot at animals from a window

If he skins them and cooks them up I have no problem. If not, I don't find that very ethical.
3 posted on 05/22/2010 7:42:03 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
he allegedly has a host of health problems, including dementia

Dimentia and a pellet gun are not good friends. This guy does not belong in jail, but perhaps in a nursing home.

4 posted on 05/22/2010 7:42:53 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

People should be able to kill rodents on their property.


5 posted on 05/22/2010 7:42:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: randomhero97

Squirrels are rats with bushy tails. They dig up bulbs and make a damn nuisance of themselves. It’s a freaking pellet gun. Pay the old man bounty and buy him more pellets!


6 posted on 05/22/2010 7:43:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: randomhero97

So, you think rodents should live if not eaten?

I’d hate to see you with rats.


7 posted on 05/22/2010 7:44:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: ConservativeMind
People should be able to kill rodents on their property.

Agreed, but he's also on video baiting and torturing them. He has done this dozens of times. Still, I think the sentence is inappropriate, a bit much for rodents.
8 posted on 05/22/2010 7:45:15 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Does the word vermin mean nothing?
9 posted on 05/22/2010 7:45:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Mmmmm! Squirrel tasty.
10 posted on 05/22/2010 7:46:07 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

TREE RATS!!!!


11 posted on 05/22/2010 7:46:37 PM PDT by wberry8870
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To: Vigilanteman

We have a log home in TN that the squirrels are chewing apart. I hate them. We have all the ends of the logs wrapped in tin foil - looks really great.

Anyone know how to keep them from chewing the house?


12 posted on 05/22/2010 7:46:40 PM PDT by Reagan69 (Let me know when those health insurance premiums go down.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I have no problems with baiting and torturing rodents.

Sticky glue traps for mice comes to mind. They can be messy, but by no means should they be made illegal because of a mouse’s welfare.

Animals can not have rights. This man should be paid for his extermination service.


13 posted on 05/22/2010 7:47:01 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: Reagan69
Anyone know how to keep them from chewing the house?

Pellet Gun?

14 posted on 05/22/2010 7:48:24 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Vigilanteman

Squirrels are rats with bushy tails. They dig up bulbs and make a damn nuisance of themselves. It’s a freaking pellet gun. Pay the old man bounty and buy him more pellets!

If you think squirrels are bad you should have a problem with woodchucks.Those things are a disaster in the making.They make tunnels in your yard about six inches wide and tear up your lawn.

They are NOT cute and cuddly.


15 posted on 05/22/2010 7:48:28 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: ClearCase_guy

>Does the word vermin mean nothing?

Congress.


16 posted on 05/22/2010 7:48:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Reagan69

take them to the dentist and have they toofus’s taken out


17 posted on 05/22/2010 7:49:09 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: OneWingedShark

Yes they live in the white house


18 posted on 05/22/2010 7:49:46 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is even more disturbing since granny had sent him out to rustle up some possum and buzzard eggs for the stew.


19 posted on 05/22/2010 7:50:18 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It's not like squirrels can get in your house, chew up your wiring, and burn down your house.

Oh, wait....

20 posted on 05/22/2010 7:50:19 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: devere

squirrels = “tree rats”

We have a lot of them in my pecan trees. But I live in a town where no one would care if I shot them. Poor old guy, his problem is that he lives on Long Island.


21 posted on 05/22/2010 7:51:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: mlocher

How about setting a rat trap, could he go to prison for this?


22 posted on 05/22/2010 7:52:05 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: puppypusher

Woodchucks will also gladly undermine your buildings if they can get deep enough. I had one family wreck the foundation of a chicken coop.


23 posted on 05/22/2010 7:52:27 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: randomhero97

squirrels will get inside your house and cause all kinds of problems. In the woods, they’re game, in town they’re bushy tailed rats.


24 posted on 05/22/2010 7:53:18 PM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: Reagan69

Hire the 81 year old with a pellet gun. ;)


25 posted on 05/22/2010 7:53:46 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ConservativeMind
Animals can not have rights.

Animals do not have rights, but people have an obligation to be humane in relation to the type of animal. There is nothing wrong with squishing a bug. There is something wrong with pulling the legs off of daddy long legs for fun. There is nothing wrong with killing a skunk, but maiming a cat or rabbit to watch it writhe and not finish the job is inhumane. Etc.

From what I have read of the case, the guy was torturing the animals at least in some cases. Even the mouse glue traps (and I have used those and the old fashioned spring types) are typically used indoors or right outside an entry, not in open property.

Again, I wouldn't throw the book at him, but I wouldn't want him babysitting my kids.
26 posted on 05/22/2010 7:53:53 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe when this guy gets out he should invest in the
Squirrel Launcher!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Ya6z-NlDo


27 posted on 05/22/2010 7:53:54 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If he has dementia, he shouldn’t have a gun.


28 posted on 05/22/2010 7:54:41 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The squirrels and I get along fine. I have problems with armadillos and raccoons.
29 posted on 05/22/2010 7:56:02 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: ConservativeMind

“People should be able to kill rodents on their property.”

Yes. As a young girl with boy cousins who went after squirrels for fun, I was appalled by their behavior. But as an adult homeowner with vegetable gardens ravaged by squirrels, I really considered borrowing my neighbor’s pellet pistol. Someone in the neighborhood was leaving peanuts for squirrels. We never figured out who it was, but it increased the squirrel population to the extent that we had to abandon our veggie garden. They still manage to cut our tulips in half every year.

That said, squirrel antics are fun to watch and I don’t hate them. But thinning the population is necessary from time to time.


30 posted on 05/22/2010 7:59:52 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Buy him a cat.


31 posted on 05/22/2010 8:01:09 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("Thomas Jefferson still survives.")
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To: puppypusher
I hate woodchucks even more than squirrels. I used to live alongside a riverbank in North Dakota. Got a call from a neighbor early one morning that water was coming in through a hole in the dike. Fortunately, I got it patched up in time, but it turned out to be a woodchuck hole. Went on a hunting expedition for a couple of months afterward. Any that I didn't get with my .22 got caught in a live trap and drowned in the water trough-- if they didn't expire from heat exhaustion before I found them.

Woodchucks, I learned, have an irresistible taste for apples and very poor heat tolerance. I highly recommend live traps which open at both ends.

32 posted on 05/22/2010 8:01:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think I may know who this is. If so, then the guy is definitely a little touched in the head. Doesn’t mean I agree with the way he’s being treated - I can’t stand squirrels, which for all intents and purposes are rats with bouffant hair-dos and way too much attitude.


33 posted on 05/22/2010 8:02:29 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: randomhero97

Squirrels are pests. They eat song birds’ eggs, chew on wires, and make a nuisance of themselves. But they are good eating.


34 posted on 05/22/2010 8:03:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Reagan69
You sure they are squirrels? It might be Porcupines.
35 posted on 05/22/2010 8:05:47 PM PDT by crz
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To: Blood of Tyrants
But they are good eating.

Yes, they are. I just find it a waste of a perfectly good meal. If cooked right, of course.
36 posted on 05/22/2010 8:05:55 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Reagan69
There is supposed to be a creosote type solution available which wood-chewing critters despise. Some of the contractors who build log homes use pretreated logs, but others can put you on the right type of coating solution.

Be careful to ask about flammability. Some of the solutions keep the wood chewing creatures away, but they can also be a fire hazard.

37 posted on 05/22/2010 8:06:51 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Reagan69
There are several tree rat repellents available now. Most contain a nasty tasting pepper juice, along with other stuff that only varmints can smell. Consult a trusted garden center.
38 posted on 05/22/2010 8:07:49 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Reagan69
I've heard of people coating some things with a very hot pepper solution. Get a large bottle of some kind of cheap hot pepper sauce, maybe thin it a little and paint it on all the ends of your logs. You can probably by it by the gallon at some Hispanic markets or maybe Sam's etc.

Birds aren't affected by hot pepper, but I think squirrels are.

Maybe metal screening over the ends of the logs might be less visible than alum. foil. Like 1/4 inch “wire cloth”. You can staple it on and mold it around the ends.

Or some .22 short sub sonic rounds so the neighbors won't hear you shooting them or a small gage shotgun and just kill the little f******s

39 posted on 05/22/2010 8:08:53 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: puppypusher

I’m not sure what animal we have that wants free access to our yard, but we have a chain link fence and in a couple or three places, the chain links at the bottom have been taken apart and spread so there are voids in the fence more than a foot across and 6-8 inches high.

That’s right, this unknown animal has made a place in our chain link fence by straightening the links and spreading them apart so that he can crawl straight through.

Our dog couldn’t have done it. I’m thinking raccoon, but I can’t be certain. It’s a residential area, but there is a park with a wooded area that has a creek running through it less than 1/4 mile from us. There are foxes and coyotes and raccoons and opossum and pit bulls.


40 posted on 05/22/2010 8:09:47 PM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Whoa... My brother-in-law must kill 20 squirrels a year with a BB rifle in his back yard in Dallas.
You can go to jail for that in New York?


41 posted on 05/22/2010 8:12:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Reagan69

Shoot em


42 posted on 05/22/2010 8:13:42 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Lancey Howard

I know crazy right!

I can’t imagine people going to jail for something like that. Especially around these parts.

My city that I live in had a mass killin of prarie dogs here about 2 years ago. Poisened the lot of them....


43 posted on 05/22/2010 8:17:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: puppypusher
If you think squirrels are bad you should have a problem with woodchucks.Those things are a disaster in the making.They make tunnels in your yard about six inches wide and tear up your lawn.

We've got one the size of a bear cub. The first time I saw it standing up I looked around for Momma Bear before my eyes focused and I saw it was just a woodchuck.

44 posted on 05/22/2010 8:19:27 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: Free ThinkerNY

45 posted on 05/22/2010 8:21:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: ConservativeMind
I have no problems with baiting and torturing rodents.

Depends on what the torture is. Is he live-trapping them, then dismembering them with pliers and chortling in evil glee? That could be a problem.

46 posted on 05/22/2010 8:22:59 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s killing 81-year-old squirrels? Why doesn’t he just let them die of old age?


47 posted on 05/22/2010 8:23:42 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Killing rodents...you’re doing it wrong.

48 posted on 05/22/2010 8:24:55 PM PDT by RichInOC ("ARMAGEDDON!!!" [BOOM!] "And the rodents' red glare...gerbils bursting in air...")
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To: Reagan69

BIG rat traps with peanut butter dusted with sunflower seeds.....aka squirrel meth !

Or a live trap with same recipe an take em on a ride to coyote country...


49 posted on 05/22/2010 8:25:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Reagan69

Get a couple of big, hungry cats?

I’ve found dead squirrels in my garden, which I’m sure were left by Mr. Boots, my very large black/white cat. He’s a super hunter.


50 posted on 05/22/2010 8:25:25 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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