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Ex-Hooters employee: I was told to drop weight
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Posted on 05/24/2010 9:31:27 AM PDT by JoeProBono

ROSEVILLE, Mich. (AP) -- Hooters is being served with a lawsuit by a former Detroit-area employee who says she was told to agree to lose weight or lose her job. Cassandra Smith says Hooters violated Michigan law when it placed her on 30-day weight probation earlier this month.

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Hooters girl weight probation. Hooters waitress Cassandra Smith, 20, is on work probation because of her weight even though she's thin. It's another case where a restaurant employee is taking legal action against the company for possible discrimination.

"I was confused because I don't wear the biggest uniform size," Smith said in a statement. "I'm not overweight by any means... If anything... I've been losing weight." According to her general manager, she's too heavy to work as one of their servers, even though the girl stands 5 foot 8 inches tall and actually weighs 132 pounds.

It all started when she received her annual evaluation last week, and she was asked to attend a meeting on a conference call with Hooters of America, Inc. in Atlanta, Georgia. The meeting started out wonderful, and she was complimented for her excellent reviews, customer satisfaction, and her cooperation with co-workers. However, she was told by the company that she received the lowest rating for her "uniform fitting" and must do something to reduce the extra pounds


1 posted on 05/24/2010 9:31:28 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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2 posted on 05/24/2010 9:32:55 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: JoeProBono

No one wants to see a fat hooters girl.


3 posted on 05/24/2010 9:33:18 AM PDT by rogertarp
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To: JoeProBono

she looks about 30 she should stay out of the sun


4 posted on 05/24/2010 9:33:31 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: JoeProBono

Look Not Guilty to me, but I need to see the “offending” corpus...


5 posted on 05/24/2010 9:33:42 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: rogertarp

Employer is dumb for coming out and saying it.


6 posted on 05/24/2010 9:34:01 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: JoeProBono

so.. she’s built like an owl - she BELONGS at hooters!;-)


7 posted on 05/24/2010 9:34:59 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: JoeProBono

Okay a head shot isn’t going to cut it for this thread. I’ll let you off with a warning this time. Others will be along to make a similar comment very soon, I’m sure.


8 posted on 05/24/2010 9:35:16 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: rogertarp

It’s bad for business if the girls look like they’re corn-fed.


9 posted on 05/24/2010 9:36:20 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: JoeProBono

When you represent a company, the company has a right and, in fact, a responsibility, to ensure that their representative is in line with the expectations put forth to the clients.

If she got a tattoo on her face, she’d likely lose her job too. Part of the condition of employment at Hooters, is a weight requirement. As a non-federal, non-taxpayer subsidized corporation, I think Hooters (or any other company) is well within their rights to do this.


10 posted on 05/24/2010 9:37:18 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: JoeProBono
Previous thread about subject (but an earlier article):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2515950/posts

Plenty of pictures on that thread....

11 posted on 05/24/2010 9:38:06 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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12 posted on 05/24/2010 9:38:22 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Farmer Dean
There is someone for every taste. Or as my wife says, “For every skank piece of bread, there is a skank piece of cheese to go on top of it. Some guys like corn fed. I am not one of them, but I know some.
13 posted on 05/24/2010 9:43:26 AM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: justlurking

I’m always glad imfored bout a previous thred.
Thanks


14 posted on 05/24/2010 9:43:31 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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I saw her on TV. SHE provided photos displaying a noticeable ‘muffin top.’ While she was NOT wearing “the biggest uniform size” she was NOT wearing the smaller size so well. She IS an attractive woman with a good height to weight ratio ... but she should work on the tummy for good measure.

Interestingly, the Hooters supervisors who told her to lose weight or be on probation are both female.


15 posted on 05/24/2010 9:44:54 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
I think she looks fine. Refreshing, considering.

I went to Hooters once. My wife asked me what the girls looked like. I said about 99% of our daughter's U16 volleyball team. I felt more like a child stalker than a customer.

16 posted on 05/24/2010 9:46:19 AM PDT by llevrok (A stranger in my own country)
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To: JoeProBono

Sa-weeeeeet! (i’m looking at the wings)


17 posted on 05/24/2010 9:46:49 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: JoeProBono

I saw her on tv, she’s fine. There is a cat fight behind this generated problem.


18 posted on 05/24/2010 9:46:54 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Blueflag
Interestingly, the Hooters supervisors who told her to lose weight or be on probation are both female.

Cat fight !!

19 posted on 05/24/2010 9:47:31 AM PDT by llevrok (A stranger in my own country)
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To: MPJackal
Or as my wife says, “For every skank piece of bread, there is a skank piece of cheese to go on top of it. Some guys like corn fed. I am not one of them, but I know some.

Are you saying 5'8" and 132 lbs is "cornfed?" How much does your wife weigh and how tall is she?

20 posted on 05/24/2010 9:48:47 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: llevrok
I said about 99% of our daughter's U16 volleyball team. I felt more like a child stalker than a customer.

You & Butters both...


21 posted on 05/24/2010 9:52:35 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: JoeProBono

5’,8” and 132 pounds?

She would be a size 7 or 8. Perfect!

Oh, and Not Guilty!


22 posted on 05/24/2010 9:56:48 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: JoeProBono

A lawsuit she will lose unless the Supreme Court/Congress one day further inhibits how private business may discriminate.


23 posted on 05/24/2010 9:58:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: rogertarp

“No one wants to see a fat hooters girl.”

And no one wanted to see fat airline stewardesses, but we have them now. With enough legal pressure Hooters will have fat girls. Just give it some time.


24 posted on 05/24/2010 9:59:53 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: grellis

not sure if you want to ping for this type of article, but it is from MI.

5’8”, 132.
so, 2” shorter than me and 10 lbs heavier. no way that’s overweight.


25 posted on 05/24/2010 10:01:10 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: MPJackal

Or as my wife says, “For every skank piece of bread, there is a skank piece of cheese to go on top of it.

No offense to your wife, but the analogy seems a bit off, unless you are all used to eating open faced sandwiches. Would it not be better said “For every skank loaf of bread there is a skank slice of cheese to create a skank sandwich? Or, “every skank loaf deserves to be filled by skanky cheese? See my problem?


26 posted on 05/24/2010 10:02:58 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: llevrok
I felt more like a child stalker than a customer.

I was working with friends and we went to dinner at Hooters.

While the food was pretty good the girls there were my daughter's age and I just kept averting my eyes. It was just too weird. I felt like you did. I have never been back to one.

27 posted on 05/24/2010 10:04:12 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Dan Nunn

Why? It is there business. This is ridiculous!!!

I used to exercise race horses, none of the riders were 6’4 200lbs. Is that weight and height discrimination?

And people think Rand Paul is stupid??


28 posted on 05/24/2010 10:05:27 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: JoeProBono
But does she have 'back'?


29 posted on 05/24/2010 10:05:59 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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30 posted on 05/24/2010 10:06:51 AM PDT by YoungHickey (Is it time yet, Claire?)
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I’m sure she’ll have plenty of local and state politicians willing to form a committee to study this situation. It’ll probably take a couple of years and a few million $$$, but they’ll tell us it’s worth it.


31 posted on 05/24/2010 10:07:32 AM PDT by tx-lug-nut
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so, 2” shorter than me and 10 lbs heavier. no way that’s overweight.

no she's not... however, from a couple of pictures i saw, she could work to tighten her abs... considering the job she has...

32 posted on 05/24/2010 10:08:22 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: panthermom
Why? It is there business. This is ridiculous!!!

Hey, I agree with you. But the law is written as it is. Thus, it's dumb to come right out with reasons when it can get you into trouble.

33 posted on 05/24/2010 10:11:54 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: latina4dubya
no she's not... however, from a couple of pictures i saw, she could work to tighten her abs... considering the job she has...

yeah, shw could use some toning, but there's no need to lose any weight.
34 posted on 05/24/2010 10:14:52 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: rogertarp
No one wants to see a fat hooters girl.

I thought girls with fat hooters was the point?

With men it's not your weight, it the fat to muscle

With women it not necessary the fat, it where the fat is at...

(Boobs and butt are mostly fat...)

35 posted on 05/24/2010 10:16:51 AM PDT by tophat9000 (It ain't about Black... It ain't about White...It's about a Red...Trying to take our rights!)
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To: latina4dubya

Yeah,,, she has a belly going on. They are doing her a favor at age 20. Instead of whining she needs to take advantage of the free gym membership the offered her and back away from the table.


36 posted on 05/24/2010 10:19:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: rogertarp

Well, there is a happy medium between Chaz Bono and Amy Winehouse.


37 posted on 05/24/2010 10:20:34 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: JoeProBono

If she had any self eseteem she would not debase herself by working at Hooters.

Good wings, though.


38 posted on 05/24/2010 10:21:36 AM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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if she had any self eseteem she would not debase herself by working at Hooters.

Good wings, though

So which girl with no self esteem would have served you your wings?

I'm amazed if she works there she has no self esteem yet you eat their wings and pay to be there................hmmm

39 posted on 05/24/2010 10:24:17 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: JoeProBono

i’m guessing the problem wasn’t the weight... but the shape


40 posted on 05/24/2010 10:29:37 AM PDT by sten
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To: JoeProBono

She could always get a job across the street at “Heffers”.

Personally I don’t think 5-8, 132 lbs is fat, but then I’ve never gone to Hooters, either.


41 posted on 05/24/2010 10:31:15 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: JoeProBono

Why does the American way now involve running to a lawyer to sue a business anytime your feelings are hurt?

Get a new job!
I imagine this ‘victim’ will go on to victimize anyone who does not appreciate just how precious she is through the use of lawyers... some day her husband, if she can find one stupid enough to sign the contract for her... will regret it.


42 posted on 05/24/2010 10:54:34 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I always picture a manatee with Hugh Hefner’s face


43 posted on 05/24/2010 11:16:45 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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44 posted on 05/24/2010 11:17:29 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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I am soo freaking over victim mentality! I can’t stand it anymore!


45 posted on 05/24/2010 11:24:33 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Kakaze

I don’t give a darn about their self esteem. I eat where I want. The waitstaff is there to serve me. If they want to debase themselves for my enjoyment then that’s a failing of their upbringing. I simply stated the truth that if they had any self esteem they wouldn’t be demeaning themselves for tips. hmmm.


46 posted on 05/24/2010 11:34:54 AM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: Dayman
I don’t give a darn about their self esteem. I eat where I want. The waitstaff is there to serve me. If they want to debase themselves for my enjoyment then that’s a failing of their upbringing. I simply stated the truth that if they had any self esteem they wouldn’t be demeaning themselves for tips. hmmm

WoW

47 posted on 05/24/2010 11:46:31 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: JoeProBono

Discussed on Red Eye including a video interview with the ex-Hooter waitress.

http://www.youtube.com/user/redeyerecap?blend=4&ob=4#p/u/12/O84JIC67K04


48 posted on 05/24/2010 11:48:49 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: panthermom

I used to exercise race horses, none of the riders were 6’4 200lbs. Is that weight and height discrimination?

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So you are OK with employees being disciplined for non-performance related issues?

Your 6’4” 200 lb jockey won’t win races. The natural consequence of jockeys not winning races is they don’t get the job.

Is this young lady unable to serve customers due to her weight issue? Obviously not.


49 posted on 05/24/2010 11:59:55 AM PDT by dmz
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Well, her hooters are an issue so why isn’t the rest of her bod?


50 posted on 05/24/2010 12:21:02 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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