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Hundreds of children sent home as travellers set up camp in a school's playing field
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Posted on 05/25/2010 1:50:18 PM PDT by dennisw

A group of travellers has set up camp with 30 caravans in a school's playing field, forcing hundreds of children to stay at home.

Education bosses immediately set up an exclusion zone at Smithills School, Bolton, after the extraordinary convoy moved in on Sunday evening.

Around 300 Year 8 pupils have been told to work from home because their classrooms are next to the playing fields and it was feared the travellers' presence could cause disruption to classes.

Police were due to speak to the group last night to inform them that trespass, which is normally a civil offence, is elevated to a criminal offence when it is carried out on a school premises and causes disruption.

This would give the police the power of arrest if the travellers refused to move on.

Sgt John Nicol, of the Bolton West Neighbourhood Policing Team, said: 'We take this very seriously and are taking positive action to ensure the smooth running of the school.'

The police action would override a move by Bolton Council officers who were due to visit the travellers yesterday to give them a direction to leave the land.

The direction gives them 24 hours to leave. If they do not, the council can apply for a summons from magistrates.

The travellers were given notice to leave a local park by Bolton Council after the caravans appeared near the main entrance, off Moss Bank Way, on Monday night.

The travellers' latest move has caused concern among local residents.

One said: 'I saw all the caravans through the trees when I do not understand it. The school always has football and cricket matches on. What are they doing with all those vehicles there?

'I know they come to Moss Bank Park quite often, but not on a school field.'

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TOPICS: Education; Local News
KEYWORDS: travelers; travellers; ungland

1 posted on 05/25/2010 1:50:19 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw


2 posted on 05/25/2010 1:51:19 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: dennisw

gypsies?


3 posted on 05/25/2010 1:52:00 PM PDT by silverleaf
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To: dennisw; Slings and Arrows

"Hey you kids, get offa my lawn!"

I've never understood the basis of Europe's tolerance of "squatters".

4 posted on 05/25/2010 1:52:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: silverleaf

Tramps and thieves?


5 posted on 05/25/2010 1:54:08 PM PDT by Ingtar (If Palin were perfect, she could campaign for godhood. Since she is human, Obama's job will do.)
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To: silverleaf

Gypsies? Tramps and fleas, at least the people of the town call them that :-0


6 posted on 05/25/2010 1:54:27 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: silverleaf

Could be gypsies, but there are also “Irish travellers”.

BYW, Irish Travellers have been running the driveway repaving scam in the U.S., especially in the Boston area.


7 posted on 05/25/2010 1:54:59 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: IrishCatholic

Oh, Ingtar was both quicker and more accurate :-(


8 posted on 05/25/2010 1:55:18 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: silverleaf

gypsies?>>>>>>>

The British equivalent thereof but I believe they are all of Irish extraction. Not darker the way you think of gypsies. Travelers can camp in many places in England so it seems. Even in special green preserve land and make a mess of it. I don’t understand the the phenomena and why the Brits cater to them


9 posted on 05/25/2010 1:55:54 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: silverleaf

I guess we have a PC term for gypsies now.


10 posted on 05/25/2010 1:56:18 PM PDT by kara37
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Irish Travelers call themselves “Gypsies.”


11 posted on 05/25/2010 1:56:37 PM PDT by Ingtar (If Palin were perfect, she could campaign for godhood. Since she is human, Obama's job will do.)
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To: IrishCatholic

I’ve never understood how this is tolerated in England...well, yeah, we all wonder about English “tolerance”.


12 posted on 05/25/2010 1:58:19 PM PDT by youturn (McConnell: "Tiger Woods and John Edwards had a better year than the stimulus did.")
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To: silverleaf

yes! They were all over in Ireland when we lived there, and that was 20 years ago.


13 posted on 05/25/2010 2:04:14 PM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: dennisw

“travellers” = gypsies? I would think it wouldn’t be too hard for law enforcement to make them move elsewhere. But my impression of “law enforcement” in Europe is that they are pretty spineless.


14 posted on 05/25/2010 2:13:28 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ronniesgal
Brad Pitt from the movie "Snatch" is a "traveler".


15 posted on 05/25/2010 2:17:46 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: dennisw
I don’t understand the the phenomena and why the Brits cater to them.

I don't understand the phenomena of third world invaders camping in our country and why Americans cater to them either.

Maybe if the Brits would just allow them to take over their schools and neighbors, they would stop travelling. < / sarcasm >

16 posted on 05/25/2010 2:19:58 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

South Florida periodically gets a Scottish version of the travelers, the Terrible Williamsons. They swarm over a city with all sorts of roofing and driveway scams and all types of theft jump up until they move on. I think the Irish and Scot travelers headquarter in the Carolinas somewhere. We get actual Gypsies, too, on occasion, but they come in smaller groups.


17 posted on 05/25/2010 2:20:45 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Lockbar

they called them “knackers”also.
Thieves is what I called them


18 posted on 05/25/2010 2:22:06 PM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: kara37
I guess we have a PC term for gypsies now.

Not PC. "Travelers" is a very old term . "Gypsies" is ethnically exclusive. "Travelers" also includes other groups who live the same way, predominantly Irish and Scottish or just "Celtic." There are several large clans based in the Carolinas that fan out over the east and midwest.

19 posted on 05/25/2010 2:25:26 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: arthurus
"Travelers" also includes other groups who live the same way, predominantly Irish and Scottish or just "Celtic."

There is a school of thought that the Irish Travelers are descended from the people who lived in Ireland before the Celts invaded.

20 posted on 05/25/2010 2:34:11 PM PDT by Pilsner
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Ping


21 posted on 05/25/2010 2:38:12 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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To: IrishCatholic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller

:^)


22 posted on 05/25/2010 2:42:49 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: arthurus

We used to get them here in Orlando. The only way to handle them is to tell them to “get the f*** off my property,” as loudly, rudely and aggressively as possible.


23 posted on 05/25/2010 2:47:14 PM PDT by MIlle
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To: dennisw

Travelers, Gypsies, Bible Adherents or ‘Wandering Lost Tribes’; these sojourners, who ever they may be, are one of the symptom of the bigger globalist agenda. As the ‘one world order’ comes closer & closer to fruition, this phenomenon will become more widespread. By living ‘off grid’ they show contempt for the way things have progressed politically.

Ya ain’t seen nothing yet!! Many Freepers may find themselves living a nomadic existence in the years to come.


24 posted on 05/25/2010 2:48:28 PM PDT by gizmotoby (Just give me the facts!)
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To: dennisw

good gawd. God forbid they squat on private property and get 24 years to leave


25 posted on 05/25/2010 2:59:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: dennisw

Traveler
26 posted on 05/25/2010 3:02:10 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: kara37
I guess we have a PC term for gypsies now.

Yes there is, but it's "Roma". Look up "Roma people".

27 posted on 05/25/2010 3:13:11 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: MIlle

I remember the Terrible Williamsons from St. Petersburg in the 60s-70s. They came through every 3 or 4 years. I think Terriblewilliamsons was one word.


28 posted on 05/25/2010 3:16:56 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: dennisw
UNGLAND... Gypos, Pikeys, Travelers, same/same
29 posted on 05/25/2010 3:24:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: arthurus

The travellers have a permanent headquarters in North Augusta, SC. They have mansions that are empty and actually live in travel trailers in the backyard. They are notorious for using their children in shoplifting scams.


30 posted on 05/25/2010 3:25:00 PM PDT by Tees Mom (Nuclear girl)
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To: arthurus
About 15 years ago, I did extensive research on Travelers in the U.S. and wrote several articles about them. I interviewed cops from all over the U.S., as well as one of the most infamous Irish travelers of all, Wanda Mary Normile, who tried to pull off the rape hoax lawsuit at Walt Disney World in 1992. There are basically two kinds: Scottish Travelers, and Irish Travelers (Wanda Mary was of the Irish group). Both have been in the U.S. for well over 150 years. The Scottish Travlers were known as The Williamsons back in the'70s, I think it was.

Florida is mainly dominated by Irish Travelers. Irish Travelers live in trailers, although there is a permanent settlement in one of the Carolinas, I forget which one (I'd have to look back at some of the stories I wrote).

Scottish Travelers live in luxury apartment complexes, not trailers. They make a hell of a lot more money on their scams, too.

For five years, I lived in a large luxury apartment complex in So Cal where Scottish Travelers lived during the fall and winter. I got to know them relatively well, or at least to know their ways.

Very odd people, very old fashioned, very ostentatiously Christian, and very fascinating.

31 posted on 05/25/2010 4:49:28 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Fiji Hill
Traveler:


32 posted on 05/25/2010 4:58:10 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Don't think of work as 5 days on, 2 days off. Instead think 4 nights on, 3 off.)
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To: Fiji Hill

I think my computer just got a Trojan Horse virus.


33 posted on 05/25/2010 5:00:54 PM PDT by Erasmus (Looks like we're between a lithic outcropping and a region of low compressibility.)
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To: Finny

And the American Travelers men drive around in the best late model pick-up trucks. Even in the English photos here I see very nice trucks


34 posted on 05/25/2010 5:22:04 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: dennisw
Irish Traveler house in SC:


35 posted on 05/25/2010 5:24:22 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Don't think of work as 5 days on, 2 days off. Instead think 4 nights on, 3 off.)
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To: Rebelbase

There is one or more South Carolina towns that are all Travelers. Every spring the men get into their nice new trucks and drive to other states doing paving, roofing, handyman rip-offs. The men take their teenage boys. My guess is the women are ripping off the SS Disability and Welfare programs as much as possible. You know that honest work did not build that house in the photo


36 posted on 05/25/2010 5:45:20 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: kara37
I guess we have a PC term for gypsies now.

Well, no, actually -- Gypsies are the swarthy, mysterious, colorful-wagon fortune-telling types. I think of Travelers as Celts -- generally blonds and redheads and brunettes and freckled skin, like a Scot. They're called "Tinkers" in Britain.

Think of living in a mega-extended family with the nosiest in-laws you ever had, and where arranged marriages with first cousins, which repels us now but has been perfectly legit for most of our Western history, just FYI. :^) It always fries me when people are ashamed to admit that their grandparents were first cousins, or some such thing. It was accepcted, honorable practice up until what, about 120 years ago?

Anyway, the Traveler clans are mega extended families, born and bred to con. They settle all together in an area in large luxury apartment complexes. In our place, they took up something like about 25 percent of the units. Their sons never go to school, the girls are educated up to about 8th grade, and they travel from town to town. One traveler-chasing cop said that's why the graveyards are so important to them. You can see lots of Williamson tombstones in certain L.A. graveyards, and the funerals are elaborate in the extreme.

37 posted on 05/25/2010 6:41:17 PM PDT by Finny
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To: dennisw
And the American Travelers men drive around in the best late model pick-up trucks.

Yeah, and they usually have a legal handicapped parking permit hanging from the rear-view mirror, too!

In the apartment complex, it was bizarre how they obsessed over cleanliness. The girls washed and cleaned the trucks.

But that was 14 to 17 years ago. Things may have changed.

38 posted on 05/25/2010 6:44:30 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Pilsner
There is a school of thought that the Irish Travelers are descended from the people who lived in Ireland before the Celts invaded.

That's interesting. One person told me about having a Traveler explain to her that stealing was okay for them because they were descended from the clan of the gypsy who stole a nail from the cross of Jesus, and Jesus gave them a right to steal. But that was a Scottish traveler, a high-roller.

39 posted on 05/25/2010 6:47:59 PM PDT by Finny
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To: a fool in paradise
I've never understood the basis of Europe's tolerance of "squatters".

Police were due to speak to the group last night to inform them that trespass, which is normally a civil offence, is elevated to a criminal offence when it is carried out on a school premises and causes disruption.

There's the smoking gun.

40 posted on 05/25/2010 6:52:15 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Just another day in Oceania.)
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To: gizmotoby
Travelers, Gypsies, Bible Adherents or ‘Wandering Lost Tribes’; these sojourners, who ever they may be, are one of the symptom of the bigger globalist agenda.

Yeah, maybe, but Travelers have likely been around for 20 and 30 generations. But wow, one thing you sure got right, and I never thought of it that way --

As the ‘one world order’ comes closer & closer to fruition, this phenomenon will become more widespread. By living ‘off grid’ they show contempt for the way things have progressed politically.

You know, they ARE off the grid. In our apartment complex, the landlady told me of one family, a mom and dad with three or four young kids, lived there for three or four months and it must have gotten hot for them, because in one *night* they picked up and disappeared with everything they needed. Poof. They know how to slip away from the law very well.

41 posted on 05/25/2010 6:57:09 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Finny

And the Travelers clans and groupings have same first and last names to throw off the authorities. They have plenty of nicknames for each other

A clan may have three, four, five, six first names and last names that the males get to be named by. Same for females. A clan might have six Tom Williamsons


42 posted on 05/25/2010 7:27:51 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: Finny

The Scottish Williamsons have been the scourge of Florida and I believe that down here they are all, Scottish and Irish, called Terible Williamsons.


43 posted on 05/26/2010 4:40:42 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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