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Cattle dog nearly kills two-year old boy; neighbors fighting over who is responsible
Kens5 ^ | May 19, 2010 | Amanda Stanzilis

Posted on 05/25/2010 8:05:15 PM PDT by solosmoke

n Sunday around 7 p.m., Jana Juhasz was watching roping practice at the Fallen Badge Arena in the small town of Christine. Juhasz had been to the property before, but this time, she watched her two-year-old son nearly get killed in front of her.

Juhasz says her toddler, Brock, was playing with some of the Australian Cattle dogs, or Blue Heelers. But then Brock tripped over one of the dogs, and the dog turned on him.

Juhasz says the dog, "wasn't just mad. It wasn't just intending to hurt him. It was out to kill him." She ran toward her son, and started kicking the dog until he got off the toddler.

It took a 6 hour surgery to save Brock's life. He needed more than 300 stitches to his face, and screws to wire his fractured jaw. He also lost a great deal of blood, and may still need a metal plate in his head. He will have to be fed by a syringe for the next 6-8 weeks, and there is concern he may lose too much weight during that time. Juhasz says she wants an apology, but the owner says she has nothing to apologize for. She says, "We have a beware of dog sign. It was an accident. It wasn't our fault. Of course, you feel bad, but we did all we could." Juhasz also wants the dog put down, but the owners say they see no reason for it.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; dogbite; maul; notapitbull; pitbull; rdo
Poor child has to suffer because the owners of the dogs felt a two year old should understand what a "beware of dog" sign means. How upsetting.
1 posted on 05/25/2010 8:05:16 PM PDT by solosmoke
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To: solosmoke; shibumi; kanawa
We need to kill them,nasty dogs...
2 posted on 05/25/2010 8:10:35 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: solosmoke
Maybe the mother should of read and understood the sign. You don't let a two year old roam around a corral what would of happened if one of the horses would of trampled him. I have owned blue healer's and blue healers with ausi Shepard mix and they are not a mean dog they are a very loyal dog.
3 posted on 05/25/2010 8:14:50 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: solosmoke; Salamander; Slings and Arrows; Markos33; JoeProBono; humblegunner; Eaker; kanawa; ...

Gee! All these “other breed” dogs must be channeling the spirits of Pit Bulls Departed.


4 posted on 05/25/2010 8:21:13 PM PDT by shibumi (Pablo (the Wily One) signed up for the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: solosmoke

NO the child has to suffer because it’s parents didn’t understand they shouldn’t let the child run on a farm with working dogs that he shouldn’t have been allowed around!


5 posted on 05/25/2010 8:22:34 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: guitarplayer1953

should of = should have
would of = would have
blue healer’s = Blue Heelers
Shepard mix - Shepherd mix


6 posted on 05/25/2010 8:33:58 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: solosmoke

No, the mom should understand what a “Beware of Dog” sign means.

The dog was on its own property. It is a working dog. It was working that day. While working something tripped over it and it went after the thing that tripped over it.

I feel for the child. The owners seem not to come across as deeply bothered by it.

I hold the child’s mom the most responsible for this mess. She has the duty and responsibility to make sure her kid is safe - yes, at all times. You err on the side of extreme caution with a very small child. Kid should not have been in there, by himself out of arms’ reach of mom, mom should not have let him in there in the first place, it’s a serious place of work where grown adults can get seriously injured or die if things go bad quickly.

The owners, if they gave permission to be there, have to be partially responsible as it was their dog. But I believe the biggest party to blame for this is the mother and her overwhelming bad judgment. She never sat down beforehand and considered the serious negatives that couldeasily happen to her child while in there.


7 posted on 05/25/2010 8:34:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: humblegunner

You forgot the run-on sentence.

(Automatic “F” in Dr. Cronin’s English Comp classes.)


8 posted on 05/25/2010 8:36:59 PM PDT by shibumi (Pablo (the Wily One) signed up for the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: solosmoke
Any dog that attacks a 2 year old child needs to be taken out and shot immediately.
9 posted on 05/25/2010 8:42:17 PM PDT by BBell
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To: shibumi

Also:

ausi = Aussie


10 posted on 05/25/2010 8:45:03 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot ( Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: GSP.FAN

My guess would be that when the child tripped over the dog he managed to squash a very tender part of the dogs anatomy. Those dogs are NOT vicious.


11 posted on 05/25/2010 8:48:28 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Illegal is not a race, it is a crime)
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To: McGavin999

I would agree i have 2 huskies and a 19 month old daughter,she tries to feed them ,pokes them in the eye or nose.
If i was not in the room with them,the boys would get get nasty...


12 posted on 05/25/2010 8:57:52 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: solosmoke; Chet 99

The story must be wrong because everybody knows that only pit bulls are killers.


13 posted on 05/25/2010 9:01:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: humblegunner
OMG it the English police. Good thing that Klingon is my first or native tongue.
14 posted on 05/25/2010 9:06:17 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: solosmoke

So sad for the child.....both to be so hurt and also to have such a IDIOT for a mother.....mommy is mental !!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 05/25/2010 9:10:05 PM PDT by Thinkin
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To: GSP.FAN
Not all of them, just that one........I have had grandchildren fall over my dog (that went through a storm door to keep a repair man off the porch) and she never even growled or was upset, dogs and kids can mix and some dogs seem to understand that a child, the youngest member of the pack is not to be attacked.

also had another dog that loved kids and women, but went nuts if a male neighbor walked into the back yard or the house until I told her to be quiet...the only thing we could figure out was that she did not like the smell of testosterone from an unknown male...

The first dog was named Mona, and the second named mugsy..both great dogs...I have been fortunate in my dogs..

16 posted on 05/25/2010 9:10:29 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: BBell
Any dog that attacks a 2 year old child needs to be taken out and shot immediately.

Sad but true. If this dog ever attacks anyone again the current owners could be found criminally liable, even if they re-homed the dog to someone else. As it is now they already face an enormous civil liability. I know people who have lost their property insurance and nearly lost their mortgages over incidents far less severe than this. A dog that gives a two year old 300 stitches must be put down.

17 posted on 05/25/2010 9:10:38 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
I couldn't even look at a dog of mine that had done that to a child ... can't believe they don't want their dog put down.
18 posted on 05/25/2010 9:14:57 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: solosmoke

The parents should have read the sign and taken the proper steps to keep their chid safe.


19 posted on 05/25/2010 9:20:17 PM PDT by lolhelp
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To: BBell

I agree-tripping over a dog shouldn’t trigger it to attack to kill. If it had merely nipped the kid, I’d say differently. P.S. My brother owns a blue heeler and they are one-person dogs who take some time to warm up to strangers. They have Dingo in their breeding-IOW’s, wild.


20 posted on 05/25/2010 9:21:35 PM PDT by Amberdawn (As you go through life brother, whatever your goal, keep your eye on the donut and not on the hole.)
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To: BBell

The dog was not at fault but I totally agree that it must be put down immediately.


21 posted on 05/25/2010 9:32:08 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: guitarplayer1953; humblegunner

>>>”Good thing that Klingon is my first or native tongue.”<<<

In that case:

SoH ‘oH Hutlh quv! jIH ta’ ghobe’ rur SoH. SoH ghaj qab legh!


22 posted on 05/25/2010 9:32:24 PM PDT by shibumi (Pablo (the Wily One) signed up for the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: solosmoke

Before you condemn the breed I have owned three ACD/heelers they are great with families and kids they are not by nature a mean or malicious breed of dog... my question is where was the childs parent... what did the child do to the dog besides trip over it... these dogs are not attack dogs they are cattle herders by nature.. there is a lot missing in this story..


23 posted on 05/25/2010 9:45:14 PM PDT by Americanwolf (If you are going to comment on Arizona Law SB1070.... Read the bill before you open your mouth!)
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To: solosmoke

Before you condemn the breed I have owned three ACD/heelers they are great with families and kids they are not by nature a mean or malicious breed of dog... my question is where was the childs parent... what did the child do to the dog besides trip over it... these dogs are not attack dogs they are cattle herders by nature.. there is a lot missing in this story..


24 posted on 05/25/2010 9:46:53 PM PDT by Americanwolf (If you are going to comment on Arizona Law SB1070.... Read the bill before you open your mouth!)
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To: BBell

so if a kid is beating on the dog and the dog turns on the kid you still advocate shooting it???


25 posted on 05/25/2010 9:49:27 PM PDT by Americanwolf (If you are going to comment on Arizona Law SB1070.... Read the bill before you open your mouth!)
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To: solosmoke

Not blaming or excusing anybody/any dog, just positing an explanation:

1. There was “roping practice” going on.

2. It was working cattle dog.

3. Presumably, the dog was in a “working” mode.

4. The dogs are MUCH smaller than cattle. In order to herd the cattle, they MUST intimidate them.

5. This intimidation is accomplished by barking, and BITING!

6. if a cow “disrespects” the dog (by kicking or just walking into it) the dog MUST re-establish intimidation by an immediate, fierce attack. It must be instantaneous, and harsh — cattle are tough.

7. The baby tripped over the dog, and the dog (being in “working” mode) reacted as if the child were a disrespectful cow, with horrendous results.

DG


26 posted on 05/25/2010 10:33:14 PM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: solosmoke

Dogs are dogs. (just say’n)

My folks are in their mid 80s, and thank the Lord, still able to care for themselves.

We got them a Blue Heeler to watch over and protect them.

I know that if anyone is aggresive toward the folks, the 30 kg dog will do it damnest to rip thier throat out. They are a superior guard dogs (IMO).

Think Heeler are cupcakes?

SO a search with this set of keywords

Blue Heeler attack.

You just might be surprised.

We (the crew) had looked first at Border Collies, but went with the Blue Heeler.

Final note - try the keyword search with your favorite breed - again, you may be surprised.

I am sorry the child in this story has such a dunce for a mother.....


27 posted on 05/25/2010 10:35:01 PM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: solosmoke

1) The mother is an idiot. (It would be a cold day indeed before I’d let my toddlers roam around a bunch of dogs alone unless I knew those dogs myself extremely well and knew for certain they would be patient with a two year old.)

2) The people who own the dog are reprehensible. That dog is not safe around humans, period, and should be put down ASAP. Why hasn’t the law been brought into this?


28 posted on 05/25/2010 11:06:35 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (March 2010: Congress shoved Obamacare down our throats. November 2010: We will shove it back!)
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To: ASOC
I have to agree with much of what you say...You have to keep your eye on your kids constantly, holding their hand if your watching something, raised 5 and from toddlers to 5 or 6, its instinct to keep an eye on them....But it only takes a second for a tragedy to happen. Its too bad for the child. That kid is in for years of surgery and pain because no one looked out for him.

That being said I believe the owner of the dog should be footing the medical bills for this child.. The owner of the dog was also not paying attention to the dog...

29 posted on 05/26/2010 2:01:19 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: humblegunner

Thank you. I cringe sometimes. :)


30 posted on 05/26/2010 2:23:27 AM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: Let's Roll

Putting a dog down is hard, but I agree, I couldn’t look at the dog after that without seeing the poor childs condition..


31 posted on 05/26/2010 2:33:54 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Americanwolf
I have no clue where you got the angle of the kid beating on the dog. The kid tripped over the dog and it attacked him according to the article. Having said that I stand by what I said.

I had a retired police dog, God rest his soul, who came to live in my house quite suddenly. He was a big oh boy and my young son who may have been 2 or 3 at the time immediately took to rolling all over the dog and pulling on it. The dog really didn't like this and once took my son's arm in his mouth, but he did not bite down. The dog eventually got used to my boy and became quite the protector of my kids until the day he died.

32 posted on 05/26/2010 3:15:22 AM PDT by BBell
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To: shibumi

These dogs should be checked by a vet for hearts of Arctic ice ;-)


33 posted on 05/26/2010 4:09:17 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Americanwolf

“Before you condemn the breed I have owned three ACD/heelers they are great with families and kids they are not by nature a mean or malicious breed of dog... my question is where was the childs parent... what did the child do to the dog besides trip over it... these dogs are not attack dogs they are cattle herders by nature.. there is a lot missing in this story..”<<<<<<

Why would I condemn the breed? I own pit bulls. You are preaching to the choir. I am merely trying to illustrate what some here seem to be unable to grasp: Irresponsible parenting/dog ownership are the main reasons for dog attacks, regardless of the breed of dog. Vicious breeds do not exist; only the belief in them does.

Sometimes it doesn’t have to take a lot for a dog to attack. Sometimes it seems the attack is completely unprovoked (animal behaviorists disagree, stating that there are lots of subtle signs we as humans tend to completely miss, or don’t know to look for), but the bottom line is that if the dog owners know their dogs will be around children, they better be sure the dogs can handle kids. Some can’t, and that should not mean get rid of the dog necessarily, but take precautions so these things don’t happen.


34 posted on 05/26/2010 7:41:08 AM PDT by solosmoke
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To: Secret Agent Man

“The owners, if they gave permission to be there, have to be partially responsible as it was their dog. But I believe the biggest party to blame for this is the mother and her overwhelming bad judgment. She never sat down beforehand and considered the serious negatives that couldeasily happen to her child while in there.”<<<<<

I absolutely agree with this...I only wish this kind of logic could be used for every attack on a baby. Perhaps a little pressure on parents and dog owners could turn things around.


35 posted on 05/26/2010 7:43:06 AM PDT by solosmoke
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To: McGavin999

No dogs (as a breed) are vicious. This is why I posted the article. Any dog can attack, and the same situation this poor child was in (with a strange dog and little direction) is what we see on the news all the time. The only difference is the breed of dog this time isn’t what people expect, making them second-guess it as if this must be some special circumstance. It isn’t, and the sooner we all see what the real problem is, the sooner we can have less attacks by all dogs.


36 posted on 05/26/2010 7:46:12 AM PDT by solosmoke
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To: solosmoke

I absolutely agree. I have a breed that is considered “difficult” (no, not a pitt). I did a rescue with a dog that was supposed to be disposed of, he turned out to be the sweetest dog on earth.


37 posted on 05/26/2010 7:53:59 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Illegal is not a race, it is a crime)
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To: solosmoke

Mother of the child made huge mistakes here- she could read the “beware of dog” sign, but even if she couldn’t children should never ever be allowed to mess with dogs that belong to other people. When I was growing up that was a strict rule to not mess with strange- meaning not our dogs. Dog was on his own turf, and the child may have hurt the dog unintentionally. Many things can happen but parents need to be aware that children playing with dogs can be hazardous no matter the breed. Small children and dogs should never be trusted together. Recipe for disaster.


38 posted on 05/26/2010 7:57:07 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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